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    Thumbs up Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Do not listen to the critics and hardware sites that do a few generic benchmarks and come to a conclusion.

    AMD FX-8150 Passmark CPU Score has jumped from 8500 to 13000 using REG Patch. But it is not stable yet.

    The boys over at Kubuntu has been working on a AMD Bulldozer fix that sort-of applies across several platforms. The ARM Cortex-A9 8 core processor had a similar problem that was overcome with a software patch. The problem right now is that the patch has to be re-registered with each Windows start. Look for a 40% performance boost if this works…. more to come.

    There is most definitely a Windows 7 AMD FX – software patch in the works. By most estimates the AMD Bulldozer FX is underperforming by 40-70% in most Windows 7 benchmarks.
    http://quinetiam.com/?p=2356


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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Kinda bs ya need a patch but most benchmarks are synthetic. Real world would be more important.

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Kinda bs ya need a patch but most benchmarks are synthetic. Real world would be more important.
    Took this from another forum.. Is this what's going on?

    "What is happening is this: The FX 8xxx series of processors has 4 cores, each core with TWO integer pipelines, effectively granting two processor cores for the price of one. (not "hyperthreading" effective, but almost literally additional core effective.)
    This is all fine and dandy, except that when Windows (or Linux) goes to issue work to a core in the processor, it picks the core with the least load, and distributes things using a task scheduler. The problem here is that when a single pipeline on a bulldozer core is being utilized both cores are effectively "in use" even though Task Manager sees the cores appropriately, the task scheduler does not. This isn't really anybody's fault, but rather an oversight.
    Standard CPU design from a by-the-book standpoint would never add a second integer pipeline to a single core. So nobody ever really thought to code a task scheduler that worked in that situation. So basically, AMD thought outside the box, and Windows got confused."

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    While I am glad that there may be hope for this platform yet,........it would have been real nice had AMD recognized/discovered all of these problems and fixes that are coming to light ~before~ it's release.

    They never saw during their testing the problems that users are experiencing?

    So, 3 days after it's release, we have fart smellers (oops! smart fellers!) from around the world identifying the causes of the performance issues and tracing reasons for it back to the point where they're coming up with viable solutions. What kind of tweaks and solutions can these people come up with in a month?

    Why is this shtuff necessary?

    Maybe we should just call this the Bulldozer Full Release ~BETA-TEST~ and call it a day.
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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    There were obvious problems prior to release..AMD was forced to get the chip out. I would bet Global Foundries had something to do with the delay. That may it be. Things ma look up as time goes on....

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    There were obvious problems prior to release..AMD was forced to get the chip out. I would bet Global Foundries had something to do with the delay. That may it be. Things ma look up as time goes on....
    I've been thinking about this and all sorts of scenarios have run through my Pea-Brain. I know that there were delays getting this to market, and I'm beginning to understand why it was so, at this point.
    Maybe AMD knew about this and figured that it would take a fix from Microsoft to correct the problem.
    Maybe they didn't get any, or enough cooperation in the matter and finally decided to release it and let public opinion sway the BORG (Microsoft) into fixing AMD's little problem they have with their groundbreaking new design.

    The little reading that I've done so far seems to indicate that Bulldozer is different from standard design principles concerning CPU design. (someone said "thinking outside the box" earlier)
    Microsoft builds their OS to be compatible with certain features and designs that are known and accepted by manufacturers already.
    ~It's standards~ plain and simple,....and it's a roadmap of what capabilities you can build for, within certain limits, that are supposed to be adhered to.
    Maybe this is an expensive and time consuming fix for Microsoft to implement and they're balking at doing it.

    One thing's for sure,......if there is a fix for this, it will be forthcoming from somewhere. If this fix delivers as much of an improvement as some are saying, it will be groundbreaking,....earth-shattering,...(well, maybe not earth-shattering)

    And maybe, just maybe, releasing it the way it is was AMD's "Hail-Mary Pass" designed to get the ~whole world~ working on a fix?

    Last,...maybe I don't know WTF I'm talking about.

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Why didn't AMD just use real cores, instead of fake cores, from the start? They obviously weren't concerned about power consumption.

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    problem...problem...deja vu!

    Few years back, AMD released their first quad-core, had some issues and then disabled one core and sell it as tri-core lineup

    I don't believe a word from the linked site. What the F##k with all the linked video...didn't proof anything.

    It's so obvious the site run by AMD fanboy, not legit a reviewer or he wouldn't trash talk, call all reviewers are moron?

    Is he saying....
    Quote Originally Posted by Quin Etiam
    By forcing Windows 7 to recognize 8 cpu cores a huge performance hit has happened. The Bulldozer FX-8xxx design… really isn’t 8 cores, it’s a 4 core CPU with an extra integer pipeline on each core
    AMD is lying to us?

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    i haven't head of one site that had anything good to say about Bulldozer
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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    problem...problem...deja vu!

    Few years back, AMD released their first quad-core, had some issues and then disabled one core and sell it as tri-core lineup

    I don't believe a word from the linked site. What the F##k with all the linked video...didn't proof anything.

    It's so obvious the site run by AMD fanboy, not legit a reviewer or he wouldn't trash talk, call all reviewers are moron?

    Is he saying....


    AMD is lying to us?
    Thats a bullcrap statement. Intel did the same thing in the past too Tony.
    . AMD learned from Intel!


    The chips that did not pass advertised frequency spec were relabeled and 1 core was disabled and sold as a tri core. They did the same thing with 550's too.... In most peoples opinion, a very smart marketing move as the chip was not scraped.

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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Quote Originally Posted by aryan51 View Post
    i haven't head of one site that had anything good to say about Bulldozer
    That's because you do not read the whole review, Jake and I talked about this yesterday'

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    Anandtech: I believe gave a positive review, but mentioned the FX 6 core would be the best chip to buy out of the FX line up.

    We had to disable 4 cores to hit a stable 5GHz, with all 8 enabled 4.7GHz cooling with water was the best we could get. I'll try to get the FX 4 core and 6 core, but with the extreme cooling missing from our FX8150 review, it may not happen.
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    Default Re: Bulldozer Registry Fix - 40% performance boost!

    Jim, when did Intel make this 3 core chip ? Have a link or model number ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Jim, when did Intel make this 3 core chip ? Have a link or model number ?

    LOL refering to disabling a core Stan... Sheeeesh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    That's because you do not read the whole review, Jake and I talked about this yesterday'

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    We had to disable 4 cores to hit a stable 5GHz, with all 8 enabled 4.7GHz cooling with water was the best we could get.
    I'll try to get the FX 4 core and 6 core, but with the extreme cooling missing from our review, it may not happen.
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    Advanced Micro Devices hopes that Microsoft Corp.'s next-generation Windows 8 operating system will work with multi-core central processing units (CPUs) more efficiently than Windows 7. As a result, the company's FX-series chips with up to eight cores will show higher performance than today. A big question is how AMD FX will show itself in comparison with Intel's chips.




    According to a slide that AMD recently spread, the new chips show up to 10% performance advantage in Windows 8 compared to existing performance in Windows 7. The performance boost is observable in non-demanding video games and can be less noticeable in other applications as well as game titles that heavily rely on performance of central processing units. The chip giant attributes the advantage to the new scheduler of the next-gen operating system, which more efficiently manages microprocessors with numerous cores.
    Based on independent tests by X-bit labs, the FX chips fail to become an enthusiasts' choice as the top-of-the-range eight-core FX-8150 model can barely beat Intel's mainstream quad-core Core i5-2500 processor that even lacks the company's well-known Hyper-Threading technology.
    While AMD demonstrates the advantages of its own eight-core microprocessor in the Windows 8 environment, but does not indicate whether other CPUs also benefit from the next-gen OS. It is widely believed that Microsoft's operating system due next year needs less compute resources than existing OS and will therefore work better on all systems.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111014103632_AMD_Expects_Windows_8_to_Boost_Perf ormance_of_AMD_FX_Chips.html
    But even AMD is only expecting a 10% increase in performance in Windows 8. I'm a bit sceptical, if this person that we've never heard of actually releases this fix, and DrDeath Jr. repeats the benchmarks and sees the 40% boost he's talking about, then I'll believe. Wouldn't mind seeing DrDeath also run a test like he mentioned, and do a high level render on both systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shattered.likeness View Post
    if this person that we've never heard of actually releases this fix, and DrDeath Jr. repeats the benchmarks and sees the 40% boost he's talking about, then I'll believe.
    I agree with this completely. If it is so, then make it so that everyone can prove it on their own,......release this "fix" into the wild.

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