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    Default AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    AMD's FX-8150 central processing unit has started to decrease in price already, even though it has only been out for about five days or so.


    Right now, it can be found online at 213 Euro ($292.42) instead of the original 245 Euro ($336.36).

    Naturally, this is because of how disappointing the performance of this 8-core processor turned out to be in benchmarks, compared to Intel's Core i5-2500K.

    Actually, the failure of the processor to live up to the hype it had amassed started something akin to a chain reaction that might not have reached its conclusion yet.

    Even if Windows 8 does end up increasing the performance of the Bulldozer, through better multi-core management, the rankings probably won't change much, since Intel's own multi-core units are bound to get similar boosts as well.

    Either way, the Bulldozer FX-8150 led to some nasty marketing opinions, some analysts even saying that the Sunnyvale, California-based company could become irrelevant.

    Whether or not this happens is still up in the air of course, even though Intel does seem to have secured a serious advantage.

    AMD may or may not recover face if it succeeds in releasing its next product early, even if they are GPUs instead of CPUs.

    For those that haven't heard or read about it, Advanced Micro Devices might release its 28nm Gpus in December.

    Meanwhile, the company will have to deal with lingering undersupply issues (mostly affecting Llano APUs) and the possibility of this extending to the next collection of Fusion products as well.

    Time will have to reveal what direction things take next and if the Sunnyvale corporation rebounds into the predator that its new CEO wants it to be.
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-I...e-228076.shtml

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Softpedia
    Right now, it can be found online at 213 Euro ($292.42) instead of the original 245 Euro ($336.36).

    Naturally, this is because of how disappointing the performance of this 8-core processor turned out to be in benchmarks, compared to Intel's Core i5-2500K.

    Actually, the failure of the processor to live up to the hype it had amassed started something akin to a chain reaction that might not have reached its conclusion yet.

    Either way, the Bulldozer FX-8150 led to some nasty marketing opinions, some analysts even saying that the Sunnyvale, California-based company could become irrelevant.

    AMD may or may not recover face if it succeeds in releasing its next product early, even if they are GPUs instead of CPUs.


    Yes, they had to drop the price. They have to entice everyone who read the less than stellar reviews to buy the chip anyway. Otherwise it's a huge financial loss. Better to cut into your own margins, than have no margins at all.

    AMD irrelevant?! Hardly. The launch of ONE disappointing product is not justifiable cause to simply scratch them off the list. BD won't be the first or last straw for AMD.

    7000-series GPUs in December? I hadn't heard that. Could prove interesting.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Earthmonger View Post
    The launch of ONE disappointing product is not justifiable cause to simply scratch them off the list. BD won't be the first or last straw for AMD.
    Need I remind you about the launch of pre-B3 stepping Phenom I chips?
    Phenom II's launch was a lot better, but AMD was still very far behind performance wise.
    Bulldozer was (according to AMD, or at least for awhile) going to bring serious competition to Sandy Bridge, and this obviously isn't the case.

    Sadly, things have been this way for awhile. It seems, to me at least, that there's no end in sight. Even the 10-15% (supposed) boost from the next BD iteration isn't going to be enough to close the performance gap.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    Need I remind you about the launch of pre-B3 stepping Phenom I chips?
    Phenom II's launch was a lot better, but AMD was still very far behind performance wise.
    Bulldozer was (according to AMD, or at least for awhile) going to bring serious competition to Sandy Bridge, and this obviously isn't the case.

    Sadly, things have been this way for awhile. It seems, to me at least, that there's no end in sight. Even the 10-15% (supposed) boost from the next BD iteration isn't going to be enough to close the performance gap.
    The Phenom-II's didn't bust Intel's nut, but they were a good, cost effective way to get your game on, on a tight budget. I bought a few of them and only sold them when I lucked into a few i7-870's for free.
    I don't think that any of this spells the end for AMD. Hell, I'll buy from them whenever I can just to help keep them around. As I keep saying, they keep Intel's prices in check just by being an alternative choice.
    They really don't HAVE to beat Intel as long as they're in the vicinity,......

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    They really don't HAVE to beat Intel as long as they're in the vicinity,......
    I agree. AMD is doing fine in the lower-end segment. Llano is selling like hot cakes.

    In the high end/enthusiast segment... well, that's another story.

    The problem is that Bulldozer is slower than Phenom II X6 in a lot of cases, and even slower than X4 in others.

    This is especially true in gaming situations, or so it seems. Let's be honest, PC tech is progressing quickly, and PC gaming is a HUGE part of that. There are other factors, like the server and business segments, but out of those 3, which is the most profitable?

    This is a lot like the Pentium III to Pentium 4; the actual architecture was slower in pretty much anything that wasn't compiled for SSE2. Bulldozer would be awesome if we had applications that could really take advantage of its architectural strengths. The only reason Netburst did so well was because of the clock speeds it was capable of reaching, and this isn't a practical solution. Pentium 4 scaled from 1.4(ish)GHz to 3.73 with the Extreme Edition. What does AMD plan to do, make 6GHz Bulldozer chips? The power consumption would be ridiculous. AMD would have been much better off just making 32nm Thuban cores, clocking them higher, and adding some more cores. Revolutionary? Not at all, but at least the performance would have improved.

    Don't get me wrong, BD can be great in heavily threaded applications... but an 8-core Thuban would probably be better.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    thank for all information of AMD old and new cpu news.

    but i have a question, " AMD FX and AMD Phenom II which one performance better ?

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by fatty22 View Post
    thank for all information of AMD old and new cpu news.

    but i have a question, " AMD FX and AMD Phenom II which one performance better ?
    That depends on what you plan to be doing with the CPU.

    Bulldozer can compete with Sandy Bridge in applications that can take advantage of 8 threads, but that isn't many.

    On the flip side, BD has a hard time even competing with Phenom II in applications that aren't heavily thread dependent (prime example: gaming).

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    That depends on what you plan to be doing with the CPU.

    Bulldozer can compete with Sandy Bridge in applications that can take advantage of 8 threads, but that isn't many.

    On the flip side, BD has a hard time even competing with Phenom II in applications that aren't heavily thread dependent (prime example: gaming).
    that mean FX good for App. Phenom II good for gaming ?

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by fatty22 View Post
    that mean FX good for App. Phenom II good for gaming ?
    It can be more complicated than that, but for the most part, yes.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    It can be more complicated than that, but for the most part, yes.
    thats what my bro is looking for so he will be happy with bulldozer
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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Where do you guys get this crap that AMD is somehow a performance to value leader? Based on what? The 8150 is SLOWER than a 2500k in almost every category. A 2500k is available for as little as $179. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589&bc =





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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    Where do you guys get this crap that AMD is somehow a performance to value leader? Based on what? The 8150 is SLOWER than a 2500k in almost every category. A 2500k is available for as little as $179. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589&bc =




    Nobody in this thread has said anything even remotely similar to that, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

    It was stated that Phenom II chips were a cost effective way to get a chip with decent performance, but they weren't being compared to a 2500K.

    However, you're right when it comes to what you should actually buy.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    Nobody in this thread has said anything even remotely similar to that, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

    It was stated that Phenom II chips were a cost effective way to get a chip with decent performance, but they weren't being compared to a 2500K.

    However, you're right when it comes to what you should actually buy.
    yep you are right. But i always hear amd fans crowing about cost to performance leader is AMD and i just dont see where they get that notion

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    yep you are right. But i always hear amd fans crowing about cost to performance leader is AMD and i just dont see where they get that notion
    When it came to Phenom II X4 vs i7 Nehalem, they were right to an extent.

    Once Sandy Bridge was released, that changed entirely.

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    Default Re: AMD Is Already Cutting FX-8150 Price

    Correct. Phenom vs Core, there was a clear winner in the value department, particularly for gaming. But Sandy Bridge vs Bulldozer may be an entirely other story. We'll see soon, I'm starting testing for our upcoming exhaustive article on Gaming Value: Sandy Bridge vs Bulldozer. Stay tuned, I'll be taking prices for comparison right before it's published, so these price drops may have an effect on our analysis.

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