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    Default AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz



    AMD's new A10-5800K "Trinity" APUs, launched earlier this week, are capable of extreme overclocking, something similarly-priced Intel processors can't claim, according to Adam Kozak, desktop products manager with the company. According to Kozak, the roughly $150 A10-5800K are capable of 6.50 GHz overclocked speeds, when augmented with liquid nitrogen cooling.

    Overclocking capabilities give AMD's sub-$150 chips such as the A10-5800K, A8-5600K, and A6-5400K an edge over similarly-priced Intel chips. The cheapest overclockable chip from Intel's current lineup is the $220 Core i5-2500K. Based on the "Trinity" silicon, the A10-5800K ships with clock speeds of 3.80 GHz, which go up to 4.20 GHz with TurboCore. The chip features an unlocked base clock multiplier, which makes overclocking possible.
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    Default Re: AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz

    Interesting. However, I doubt those overclock speeds can beat overclocked intel SBs and IBs performance-wise.

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    Default Re: AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz

    Quote Originally Posted by najiro View Post
    Interesting. However, I doubt those overclock speeds can beat overclocked intel SBs and IBs performance-wise.
    You can't really compare the 2 apples to apples.. The APU chips from AMD is another ball game as the architecture of the chips are designed differently. The performance to value is whats respectable with these chips. Also the 2nd Generation will allow the on board graphics to do eyefinity without having a separate Video card (motherboard permitting), a great feature that Intel can't match at the moment.

    But we will seen soon on what these can do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    You can't really compare the 2 apples to apples.. The APU chips from AMD is another ball game as the architecture of the chips are designed differently. The performance to value is whats respectable with these chips. Also the 2nd Generation will allow the on board graphics to do eyefinity without having a separate Video card (motherboard permitting), a great feature that Intel can't match at the moment.

    But we will seen soon on what these can do....
    So So true. If Intel releases a product close to this type then we can compare them. Comparing an APU to even an I3 seems silly. AMD said that is the market are these are targeting. Not i5s not i7s but i3s. In that light an i3 cant hold a candle to an A10 or an A8. Nothing Intel offers can come close to the video offerings of an AMD APU. No the cpu cores will not win in benchmarking but that isnt the point. The point is to offer users a solid cpu and better then any other integrated graphics options out so they can play hd content with no hiccups and entry level games. They clearly win in this area. I'm sure the OEMs are looking forward to this release so they can flood the market with low cost but solid performance pcs, laptops and All in one units for windows 8. AMD knew what they were doing with the timing of this release. Good job AMD!
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    Default Re: AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz

    I think that PureOC has an APU review (the new ones) on the way. I can't wait to see it.
    I've had good luck with APU systems in the past, they have all of the latest technology and capabilities built into them, (SATA-III 6GB, USB 3.0 and such) and their 'Hybrid Crossfire' feature is pretty cool too. Add these features to their low cost and I think that AMD is set to make some good money from them. (they already have too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    So So true. If Intel releases a product close to this type then we can compare them. Comparing an APU to even an I3 seems silly. AMD said that is the market are these are targeting. Not i5s not i7s but i3s. In that light an i3 cant hold a candle to an A10 or an A8. Nothing Intel offers can come close to the video offerings of an AMD APU. No the cpu cores will not win in benchmarking but that isnt the point. The point is to offer users a solid cpu and better then any other integrated graphics options out so they can play hd content with no hiccups and entry level games. They clearly win in this area. I'm sure the OEMs are looking forward to this release so they can flood the market with low cost but solid performance pcs, laptops and All in one units for windows 8. AMD knew what they were doing with the timing of this release. Good job AMD!
    Exactly... Although a close comparison would be its Intel i3, you will need to buy a discrete graphics card to even come close to its comparison. Which is why the AMD APU is so great. It eliminates the cost of buying a GPU. AMD's APU systems are great for those not looking to spend allot of money but looking for performance for everyday needs.

    For performance chips the FX series chips its a better comparison so its i5, i7 arena, however as we all know they haven't quite stacked up. But with the new FX series chips on the horizon; we hope AMD has something to offer soon that will give Intel a little run for the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I think that PureOC has an APU review (the new ones) on the way. I can't wait to see it.
    I've had good luck with APU systems in the past, they have all of the latest technology and capabilities built into them, (SATA-III 6GB, USB 3.0 and such) and their 'Hybrid Crossfire' feature is pretty cool too. Add these features to their low cost and I think that AMD is set to make some good money from them. (they already have too)
    We do have one, however we can't say much at this time due to NDA regulations. However your correct, the Hybrid Crossfire with the APU's can give any intel system with onboard video its run for the money at the moment. Esp. now that we see you can run Eyefinity, its new architecture will surely prove its performance value.

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    Default Re: AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz

    *Cough Hyper Threading Cough* Intel may know nothing about GPUs but they know a hell of a lot about CPUs... But comparing these to intel would be like pears and oranges to apples.

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    Yes, they are not the same. Intel does not compete with these yet. Not in the same market. That's what's cool about them. AMD took a stab at the lower-end CPU/GPU combined market and now they own it. You can bet that Intel is working to change that, but they are not there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    Yes, they are not the same. Intel does not compete with these yet. Not in the same market. That's what's cool about them. AMD took a stab at the lower-end CPU/GPU combined market and now they own it. You can bet that Intel is working to change that, but they are not there yet.
    If Intel bought Nvidia they could do it, I just don't think Intel will compete with GPUs until they actually make GPUs or atleast it will take them a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    Yes, they are not the same. Intel does not compete with these yet. Not in the same market. That's what's cool about them. AMD took a stab at the lower-end CPU/GPU combined market and now they own it. You can bet that Intel is working to change that, but they are not there yet.
    I dont think Intel has any intentions of ever competing at this level. Instead they have opted to skip it and go lower with their new Clover Trail Atom chips. They think lower end pcs and laptops are going away from losing out to tablets, So why even waste time on it. They are focused on what they believe is the future of mobile computing. Tablets, Phones and other devices with touch screens. AMD will rule this area forever even if it is does end up shrinking. If it doesn't and tablets turn out to be a fad like net books then Intel made a big mistake by letting AMD take the lead in this area. AMD will be generations ahead in APU and future SOC for desktop, AIO and laptop markets.

    We also see this similiar tech in AMD Z-series for tablets. (Desna) AMD may just put up a fight in the Windows 8 arena by having better graphics support. Only the future will tell if Intel's choice to go with PowerVR instead of a home grown gpu or Nvidia based gpu will pay off. Kind of hoping it doesn't and AMD rules there too! lol
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    Are far as GPUs go, NVIDIA has it in the bag right now. The 600 series GTX cards are solid performers and are priced right.
    Not sure if NVIDIA is for sale though,.....

    Intel began developing a GPU a few years ago and then abandoned the project. Buying ATI cost AMD a lot of money. Many thought (and still do) that it was a stupid move on their part, but now they seem to be getting a return on the investment. I'm all for it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    I dont think Intel has any intentions of ever competing at this level. Instead they have opted to skip it and go lower with their new Clover Trail Atom chips. They think lower end pcs and laptops are going away from losing out to tablets, So why even waste time on it. They are focused on what they believe is the future of mobile computing. Tablets, Phones and other devices with touch screens. AMD will rule this area forever even if it is does end up shrinking. If it doesn't and tablets turn out to be a fad like net books then Intel made a big mistake by letting AMD take the lead in this area. AMD will be generations ahead in APU and future SOC for desktop, AIO and laptop markets.

    We also see this similiar tech in AMD Z-series for tablets. (Desna) AMD may just put up a fight in the Windows 8 arena by having better graphics support. Only the future will tell if Intel's choice to go with PowerVR instead of a home grown gpu or Nvidia based gpu will pay off. Kind of hoping it doesn't and AMD rules there too! lol
    Good point, they're jumping in on Android with the Razr i

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    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post

    Intel began developing a GPU a few years ago and then abandoned the project. Buying ATI cost AMD a lot of money. Many thought (and still do) that it was a stupid move on their part, but now they seem to be getting a return on the investment. I'm all for it too.
    Larrabee was an April fools joke that lasted for 3 years. lol The peices they could salvage from the project is now tied to Intel cpus as the HDXXXX series of GPU. Under powered jokes. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    Are far as GPUs go, NVIDIA has it in the bag right now. The 600 series GTX cards are solid performers and are priced right.
    Not sure if NVIDIA is for sale though,......
    Depends how much Intel would pay for it...

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    Lolz that was a good one...

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    You guys will have to wait until next week, to find out exactly how fast this chip is.

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