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    Default Fatality killer??

    if i remember correctly the last fatility asrock board was 200 +
    so am i not seeing correctly whene i see this @ 134?????????????


    am i missing something?
    is this a stripped down version or something?
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    the only way to tell is to compare.............

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    seems like the original am3+ is no longer there (listed) to be able to use it for comparison
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    Default Re: Fatality killer??

    I don't remember any 990FX boards being that expensive apart from the UD7 and the Crosshair. All of the other 990FX boards that were enthusiast class settle down at around 120-140 a pop. This DOES seem to be a bit different from the last time I saw it as well, but hell I like the look of this board anyway. Reminds me of MSI's G45 line of boards in their Gaming lineup: all the features gamers need, nothing they don't.

    EDIT: Also... HUGE fan of their internal USB header placement on this board!
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    well it all depends...........my ASUS Sabertooth 990FX board was @ $186

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    Yeah that's true, the Sabertooth was always kind of up there as well.

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    Default Re: Fatality killer??

    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    if i remember correctly the last fatility asrock board was 200 +
    so am i not seeing correctly whene i see this @ 134?????????????


    am i missing something?
    is this a stripped down version or something?
    Newegg.com - ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

    There is nothing wrong with the board. It is not stripped down or anything. It has the same feature set as the Z87 Killer including the M.2 sata connector. 8+2 phase power. Removed usless pci slots. ect. It is a nice board. AM3+ is just not the flavor of the month due to it showing its age.

    If you have a FX chip it is a great option.
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    Default Re: Fatality killer??

    so i got a fatality killer
    ASRock > Fatal1ty 990FX Killer
    it has this "m.2_ssd1" spot on the motherboard that a whole PCIE slot is dedicated to
    but there is now way to plug into it :/
    so i have just the basic 5 sata ports, this"magical" solution that has NO documentation in any of the paper work, or drivers cd

    any idea how to use this?

    edit : just found my answer
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167170
    this is a new format SSD, that only seems to be available in a MAX of 180 GB.
    if i have a 750 gig SSD, why would i want this thing?
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    Because it is tied directly into the pcie bus and instead of going to a cable then controller then bus. Its for boot drives or cache drives. If you had a m2 ssd then you would notice the difference. However m2 ssd are still very new and most vendors don't even have m2 ssds out until next quarter. Everyone has been using m1 up to this point.
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    i have never been able to get a seperate disk combination to perform, other than just another platter drive for storage
    i've tryed a few raid configs, i got 1 to work for a very short while, but was never able to revive it after it crashed
    if one of these MK2 could improve the overall performance of my SSD based system i'd be interested
    but id definatly need some serious indepth tutorial data
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    Default Re: Fatality killer??

    so i am looking for some noob lvl advice on OCing
    this is the current board i am trying to work with ASRock > Fatal1ty 990FX Killer

    the previous board i tryed to OC with was this one ASRock > 990FX Extreme3

    the only thing i ever got was a crash
    i never got a SINGLE SETTING OF 1 SINGLE BUMP OF A DEGREE to ever work
    it would always crash
    thats using both the virtual ASrock tunner, and the bios approach
    this is the processor im working w Newegg.com - AMD FX-9590 Vishera 4.7GHz Socket AM3+ 220W 8-Core Desktop Processor - Black Edition FD9590FHHKWOF

    yes cooling is very much under control

    edit : just bumped the "cpu frequency multiplier" up to 26.5 from 23.5, that has me fluctuating around 5.1 gig and 42 C
    other than a few screen flashes while system was adjusting, everything seems ok atm
    will update
    edit : system crash @ about 1 minut of PhysX Fluid Mark
    now trying @24.5

    looks like cooling is not as "under control" as i thought !
    my 140mm 2 fan Kraken shoots up the CPU temp to 62C in literaly just a few seconds
    is this not normal?
    i expected better performance
    as soon as i drop the psyx test the temp drops on the CPU to about 44C literaly about 25 seconds
    so i asume the thermal conductivity is good

    think maybe i should add 2 fans for a push pull?
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    So were you attempting to use the 9590 on the 990FX Extreme3? I seriously doubt that that motherboard was designed to run those chips at all, let alone to overclock them. Not strong enough MOSFET's and the socket was probably not doing so well either. It would have had nothing to do with CPU temps at that point. Your Fatal1ty board does not support the 9590 chip either, so the fact that you can run the chip at all under STOCK settings is a miracle. You should have probably gone with an 8350 on account of it having a lower TDP and being every bit as capable of clocking to at least 4.6-5 GHz on most decent AM3+ boards. In the future I might suggest checking the supported CPU listings for the motherboard, or ask in the forums here first to keep you from having to spend more money on trial and error testing :-/

    Your Kraken cooler, is it the X40 or the X60?

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    mmmm... that cooler should be able to cope with the heat generated from that CPU... I would try re-seating the cooler and see if the temps improve. Also try utilizing the following application method: "Grain of Rice method": make sure both the mating surfaces (IHS on the processor and the base plate of the CPU cooler). Looking at the CPU so that the writing is legible as if you were reading it from a book. Taking your tube of thermal paste, apply a vertical line of thermal paste no larger than a long grain of rice and no thicker. Once applied, mount the CPU cooler and allow the cooler itself to spread the thermal paste. The idea here is that the thermal paste is only present to fill in the fine gaps that exist between the IHS and the CPU cooler base, since both have slight imperfections in them. By letting the CPU cooler spread the paste, it will fill in and move exactly to where it needs to go and can sometimes provide a better seating than by manually spreading out the paste by hand, and can use less paste as a result.

    If your temps are still a bit out of hand then I might think there is an issue with your X60 since the total surface area of that radiator plus the efficient nature of the stock fans should be capable of coping with that CPU. Another possibility though is that your temperatures are actually registering package or socket temps rather than actual core temps. AM3+ boards aren't exactly the easiest to check temps on at times because of the oddness of the temp sensors. Is there any way you could take some screen shots of the software you use to check temps and highlight the temps you are seeing?

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    this is an over heat at stock operating
    takes about 30 seconds or so, and the performance is NOTICEABLY bad at 60 C
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    Wow... at stock it's shooting your chip over 2V intermittently!? That's haggard man :-/. First thing's first: I would definitely try to re-seat your X60 and see if that helps get the temps under control at stock. Second thing I would do is go into your BIOS and check to see if there are any other settings that are odd, namely your load line calibration (if that board provides that kind of control). I have never once seen a chip get shot that much voltage, even one of these 9000-series FX chips so that worries me a bit. If all of your settings are correct then I imagine that is this board freaking the hell out over having a chip installed in it that isn't technically compatible.

    I am also noticing that your motherboard fan headers for CPU Fan1 and Case Fan1 are registering fan speeds. What is plugged into these headers? If these are your rad fans then I would move the one that is plugged into the Case fan header to the other CPU fan header (unless the software is throwing up odd labels for the fan signals). a 300 RPM difference might not seem like a whole lot, but it's certainly not helping matters with your current cooling setup.

    Another thing I have noticed is that your HWMonitor is showing two sets of temps that seem related to the CPU: the first one (Temperature #1) matches the temp from your F Stream Tuning utility for CPU Temp. The other one is for the average of the cores (a bit further down the HWMonitor list). I am wondering if your F-Stream utility is doing something similar to what some other temp monitoring software is doing with these boards and using that for the socket temps. Either way for that temperature to skyrocket like it is isn't a good sign at all and is probably indicative of that board not being comfortable coping with the chip. First thing's first though: re-seat that heat sink and double check your BIOS settings, then try re-testing at stone stock everything. Even if you have to clear CMOS to make extra sure that everything is at stock then do it. If the problem repeats then you need to use a motherboard that is actually suited to run that chip. Of the AMD mtoherboards out there I know of only four that are designated as compatible with that chip: the Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, the Gigabyte UD5/UD7, and the ASRock 990FX Extreme9.

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