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    Default AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    Even I wasn't sure I could believe this but it is tweaktown and they have the benchmarks to prove it. Best 4k res sli set up is an FX-8350. And no, that's not cost to performance ratio either! If only AMD started focusing more on the muti-threading now rather than jumping the gun 3 years ago!

    AMD FX-8350 powering GTX 780 SLI vs GTX 980 SLI at 4K - TweakTown's Tweakipedia

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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    Very interesting results. This paves the way for us to spend ridiculous amounts on our screens now!

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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    When a singular test contradicts everything we have seen in the past, and even on paper makes absolutely no sense, I find it more than a little hard to swallow.

    This is where I am apt to sit back and wait for the discrepancy to come to light. Because it does every single time.

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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    When a singular test contradicts everything we have seen in the past, and even on paper makes absolutely no sense, I find it more than a little hard to swallow.

    This is where I am apt to sit back and wait for the discrepancy to come to light. Because it does every single time.
    The only thing that makes me wonder about the legitimacy of this is that it specifically used SLI at high resolution. Does that combo start pushing the limits of single core processing so that multi-threading is forced into higher use? AMD does have great Multi-threading peformance. I share in your skepticism however because this is a peculiar result but with the way things are heading now, multi-threading is becoming more realistic now than it was 3 years ago, especially with DirectX 12.

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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    The only thing that makes me wonder about the legitimacy of this is that it specifically used SLI at high resolution. Does that combo start pushing the limits of single core processing so that multi-threading is forced into higher use? AMD does have great Multi-threading peformance. I share in your skepticism however because this is a peculiar result but with the way things are heading now, multi-threading is becoming more realistic now than it was 3 years ago, especially with DirectX 12.
    While I get where you are trying to go with that thought - the Intel used was a 12 threaded 4930K, so more threads than the 8350, and higher per thread performance. Even so, it's a rather curious choice of CPU for this particular test. I love that TT went on about the "$319 of AMD outperforming the $1000+ of Intel" when a 3570K and lower priced Z87 board likely would have put up similar numbers for ~$319.

    I'm sure the "WTF was TT benching?" reviews will be out in a couple of days, followed by the "oops, our 4930K was accidentally downclocked to 800MHz and the 980s were accidentally downclocked on the Intel rig, too.....we were kind of hoping no one else would test this".

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    They mention a previous set of bench marks at lower resolutions that Intel dominated in. I can see why some would be hesitant of trusting this 100% but at the same time I don't understand why it would be so easily written off as BS. I don't recall seeing a set of benchmarking results that were setup like this one. This is also not the first time somebody has shown that the FX series chips can hold their own or beat an Intel system when using closely matched specs and same GPUs in Gaming performance. I was ran a few benches last night using 2 290s on a X99 board with a 5820K. I reran one of them 3 times because it was a lower score than when I had the 290s on the 990FX board with an 8350. I thought something was wrong or I screwed up a setting. It wasn't a huge difference but the point was the 5820k should have yielded much better results and it didn't.

    Not saying I believe that report 100% but I do believe the FX8350 could win some if not half of those benches. Which still says the same thing, you don't need the latest and greatest CPU to push your GPUs, even at 4K.
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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    I did check out the clocks too, and the 4930k doesn't clock out near as fast as say a 4970k. Since it's very likely that boost won't apply to any testing loads, the first chip is only running at 3.4 ghz while both the latter and the 8350 will run at 4.0. Still, even if the results are slightly skewed, I really appreciate that the 8350 should be a fine CPU on a UD3 board for single card and dual card GPU set ups. I don't plan on upgrading big time until around 2017 so I can start focusing on custom loops and I think I'll have no trouble waiting that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    They mention a previous set of bench marks at lower resolutions that Intel dominated in. I can see why some would be hesitant of trusting this 100% but at the same time I don't understand why it would be so easily written off as BS. I don't recall seeing a set of benchmarking results that were setup like this one. This is also not the first time somebody has shown that the FX series chips can hold their own or beat an Intel system when using closely matched specs and same GPUs in Gaming performance. I was ran a few benches last night using 2 290s on a X99 board with a 5820K. I reran one of them 3 times because it was a lower score than when I had the 290s on the 990FX board with an 8350. I thought something was wrong or I screwed up a setting. It wasn't a huge difference but the point was the 5820k should have yielded much better results and it didn't.
    I still believe there is a "but"....It actually wouldn't surprise me one bit if it is an "E" thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Not saying I believe that report 100% but I do believe the FX8350 could win some if not half of those benches. Which still says the same thing, you don't need the latest and greatest CPU to push your GPUs, even at 4K.
    That was my point in saying that the 3570K/Z97 would probably put up similar numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    I can see why some would be hesitant of trusting this 100% but at the same time I don't understand why it would be so easily written off as BS.
    It's not a matter of trust for me. I already have two FX CPUs here (6300 & 8350) and they're both fine for what I use them for.
    This article won't effect what I intend to buy in the future anyways. For me, affording the screens needed to game at these resolutions is the real kicker, and it's kicked me in my financial nuts.
    I will not be doing it anytime soon.

    Tweaktown is pretty reputable, I read some of their reviews daily. I look forward to seeing more on this in the future.

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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    I want to see if other non biased sites and replicate these results. I lack the monitors to attempt it. As Neil said affording them would kick me In the nuts and and the wife woukd smash whatever was left of them. We already know Intel usually wins at lower resolutions because of pure clock speed and per clock efficiency. At higher res maybe it is more about real cores as opposed to hyperthreading and clock cycles. Like a ceiling of effectiveness similar to how after 1866mhz memory the gains become nonexistent. We will see in time. If this is true and can be backed up. AMD better get on the freaking ball and promote the hell out of this. Lol
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    Default Re: AMD beats Intel with and 8350?

    I'm interested in the results of others looking at this data, but it doesn't matter to me until I can do it at the same resolutions myself.

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