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    Default Question about motherboard heat issue

    Hey guys, this is gonna be a long one. Recently, since owning the r9 290s, when I would have a normal gaming session, my internet connection would start lagging out about 30 minutes in. It took me a while to figure it out but due to the heat coming from my 2 R9 290s and my 4.7 oc on my 8350, the ethernet controller was getting too hot and would lag out my internet connection. Now that you have the general idea, I'm going to get into specifics.

    The board I have is the Asrock extreme9 990fx. I ran my 4.7 oc with a vcore at 1.5 volts, LLC was set at 50% which gave me an upper voltage from stress tests around 1.55 and normal usage voltage around 1.525 which was stable. With my Glacer cooling the cpu, I could keep my core temps averaged at 58c when running OCCT. The CPU socket temp on the board however, would get up to close to 80c. I added a fan blowing right on the heatsink to help with this but in gaming, these temps would stay in the 40s to low 50s range. My GPU runs in the High 60s to 70c range but once that heat builds up, my internet connection begins lagging.

    I know this shouldn't be normal so what would be my best option? Should I check the the thermal paste/pad seals on my VRM heatsinks and see if that helps? Factories are notorious for overdoing paste which raises temps. Or should I just go through Asrock and risk an RMA process that would likely not fix the problem do to the aforementioned issue?

    I dropped my clock to 4.6 ghz which has allowed me to drop my vcore to 1.425 volts. With llc, my Vcore seems to stay around 1.45 volts which solves my problem for now, but if I get the funds for a custom loop in the near future, I would like to play with 4.7-4.8 ghz without having to worry about lagging out my connection. Let me know what you guys think. I also wanted to double check that I'm not pushing voltage too far but typically, temperature is more the concern than voltage.

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    The two obvious simple solutions would be better airflow in your case, or go to a dedicated LAN card. An RMA obviously won't solve the problem if this is simply the nature of the board, especially if this is resultant of the LAN chip placement in relation to the vrm or GPU.

    The 820 should give you some good opportunity for airflow to the right location. You need to be careful you are getting actual flow, not simply air​blow.

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-I210-T1-.../dp/B00ESFF2JC

    When it comes to NIC's Intel FTW

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Currently, I have a front and side 200mm fans blowing into the case. I have a 2 140mm fans that direct air directly to the graphics card, one in front of them, and one in the bottom of the case. Then, I have 2 200mm fans blowing air out of the top of the case, with the two 120mm underneath blowing through the radiator. I also added a 80mm screw mount goose neck fan that blows directly on the VRM heatsinks.

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Your motherboard overheating due to excessive accumulation of hot air inside your case, I will consider to improve the airflow in the case, BTW which case do you have? Also as Ciarlatano already said try to replace integrated Lan with one dedicated Lan card. Last thing will be to change the case with one more spacious and with better airflow possibilities or to go under water with GPUs.
    PD. You can try also not to blow air directly to your GPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Currently, I have a front and side 200mm fans blowing into the case. I have a 2 140mm fans that direct air directly to the graphics card, one in front of them, and one in the bottom of the case. Then, I have 2 200mm fans blowing air out of the top of the case, with the two 120mm underneath blowing through the radiator. I also added a 80mm screw mount goose neck fan that blows directly on the VRM heatsinks.
    Sounds like you have the flow laid out well - assuming you have the 140mm rear exhaust still in place and forgot to mention it, since that is the one closest to the VRM and LAN chip. I took a look at the board and I am going to guess that the fact that what appears to be the LAN chip is stuck in a tight space between the VRM and a few caps has it seeing way too much radiated heat. ASRock boards don't have great thermal isolation, and I can't imagine this positioning is helping, which is why I would personally go to a NIC card. Like Grumpy said, Intel is king of NICs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    Your motherboard overheating due to excessive accumulation of hot air inside your case, I will consider to improve the airflow in the case, BTW which case do you have? Also as Ciarlatano already said try to replace integrated Lan with one dedicated Lan card. Last thing will be to change the case with one more spacious and with better airflow possibilities or to go under water with GPUs.
    PD. You can try also not to blow air directly to your GPU.
    It's an NZXT 820, and he listed out the fan layout above. You would be hard pressed to find a case with better airflow options and capabilities, so changing the case definitely won't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    It's an NZXT 820, and he listed out the fan layout above. You would be hard pressed to find a case with better airflow options and capabilities, so changing the case definitely won't help.
    Knowing that now, the suggestion to changing the case is out of the question, but still is possible to improve the air flow.

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    Some time back, I saw postings about drilling out the rivets and removing the drive cage completely. While some trouble, removing the drive cage airflow obstruction would allow front intake air an "unimpeded" pathway to the mobo. I've removed the cages from my Enthoo Primos and mounted the sole HDD in an empty 51/4 bay and the SSDs are behind the mobo tray. Such an arrangement is entirely possible with the P820. I know becaused I owned one prior to the Primos. I thought about drilling out the rivets, but chose not to since cooling wasn't a problem. I think such a "mod" would improve airflow for you.

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Just remember with a case Air flow is most inportant. Cool air in ,Hot air out. You need it to flow .

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    looks like the suggestions are" realy flowing" through here
    lulz?
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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Other than adjusting the position of that de-stratification fan (the 80mm one) I cannot see how to improve what you have without going to loud and fast fans.

    It has to be cheaper/better to use pcie NIC
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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Thanks for the input everyone. Right now, I'm running 4.6 with less vcore so that solves the issue and if the time comes, I'll just get an NIC with a custom kit so I can overclock higher without the lag issue.

    Just to make sure, nobody thinks there would be any benefit from trying to reseat the heatsinks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Thanks for the input everyone. Right now, I'm running 4.6 with less vcore so that solves the issue and if the time comes, I'll just get an NIC with a custom kit so I can overclock higher without the lag issue.

    Just to make sure, nobody thinks there would be any benefit from trying to reseat the heatsinks?
    Never hurts to try. In a worst case scenario, you simply wind up with better TIM on your VRM.

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    Amen. Besides, it's FUN!

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    Default Re: Question about motherboard heat issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Never hurts to try. In a worst case scenario, you simply wind up with better TIM on your VRM.
    And you'll ~know~ that they're done right, too.

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