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    Default More New AMD Boards

    Ok, even I'm scratching my head at all the AMD love going on lately. Don't get me wrong, I love my AMD set up and feel like it gives me phenomenal value for the money, but new boards just for 3.1? Even I think the 970 and 990fx is a little dated for this much treatment. On the other hand, if AMD surprises us all with a Steamroller FX chip to tide over until Zen next year, then it would make a little more sense. Still, Asrock makes some pretty darn good products and these boards look pretty nice. 8+2 power phases as well!

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    I think that Win-10 is going to usher in some changes to motherboard's requirements. These changes by AMD Partners are an attempt at continuing sales after Win-10 is released.
    I would imagine that Microsoft is in contact with board fabricators about their new features.
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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    From what I can tell, the new ASRock 990FX Killer 3.1 is just an additional add on PCIe card for USB 3.1 and Type C Connectors. The Physical board and features itself is the same as the Existing Killer board AsRock has now for AMD. But I ran the Killer board for a little while with the 9590, while it can handle the chip out of the box, it was not a great overclocker and had stability issues if you tried to push the 9590.

    I think your better off with the Extreme 9 board you have now unless you feel the need for the new USB interfaces.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    From what I can tell, the new ASRock 990FX Killer 3.1 is just an additional add on PCIe card for USB 3.1 and Type C Connectors. The Physical board and features itself is the same as the Existing Killer board AsRock has now for AMD. But I ran the Killer board for a little while with the 9590, while it can handle the chip out of the box, it was not a great overclocker and had stability issues if you tried to push the 9590.

    I think your better off with the Extreme 9 board you have now unless you feel the need for the new USB interfaces.
    Yeah, I'm not looking at trying to downgrade to a Fatal1ty. I am interested in the MSI board because the older Asrock Bios isn't my favorite and I really don't like their fan control levels. Have they gone to a fan curve or Min/Max temp settings yet? The MSI board is using a much lower power phase than the extreme9 which worries me a bit. My only complaint about a lot of the 990fx boards are smaller VRM heatsinks. I stay with in specifications but with the r9 290 set up I have, temps are a little harder to keep down without some extra fan noise.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    I don't think that the FX-9590 is a good overclocker. But it's damn fast at stock, and it's 5.0 GHz burst speed.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I don't think that the FX-9590 is a good overclocker. But it's damn fast at stock, and it's 5.0 GHz burst speed.
    That statement is very subjective. Any 2600/2700K (yup....AMD is battling Intel chips this old), 3770K, 4770K, 4790K or Ivy/Haswell Extreme user would heartily disagree, as well as point out that they aren't having ridiculous heat issues or problems finding a board that won't fry when they drop their chip in.

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    I wasn't talking about it being faster than anything else Intel sells. I just said that it's damn fast at regular clock speeds.

    The real world user experience is good. I've tried SLI and Crossfire setups in this PC and both work great.
    Everything is completely stable and someday when they make some shooters that really take advantage of octo-core PCs It will really shine.

    I have the FX-9590 and it's Cooler Master factory liquid cooler, and a motherboard that supports the CPU without any issues. (Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3)
    I won it all from AMD so I suppose that they did their homework before they shipped it all out to me.
    What I ended up with is a fast PC that has the heat mitigated properly and a solid PSU to aid in stability. (thanks again AMD)
    Maybe people should do their homework before buying into these high watt CPU's. SamCR3 did exactly that and decided to do more research.

    As for Intel CPUs, I have an i7-870, i7-2600K, i5-4690K, i7-4790K, Pentium Anniversary G3258, and an i7-5930K CPU on the way.
    So I also know the speed and value of Intel chips. But this FX-9590 is no slouch.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I wasn't talking about it being faster than anything else Intel sells. I just said that it's damn fast at regular clock speeds.

    The real world user experience is good. I've tried SLI and Crossfire setups in this PC and both work great.
    Everything is completely stable and someday when they make some shooters that really take advantage of octo-core PCs It will really shine.

    I have the FX-9590 and it's Cooler Master factory liquid cooler, and a motherboard that supports the CPU without any issues. (Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3)
    I won it all from AMD so I suppose that they did their homework before they shipped it all out to me.
    What I ended up with is a fast PC that has the heat mitigated properly and a solid PSU to aid in stability. (thanks again AMD)
    Maybe people should do their homework before buying into these high watt CPU's. SamCR3 did exactly that and decided to do more research.

    As for Intel CPUs, I have an i7-870, i7-2600K, i5-4690K, i7-4790K, Pentium Anniversary G3258, and an i7-5930K CPU on the way.
    So I also know the speed and value of Intel chips. But this FX-9590 is no slouch.
    The real world experience is actually what I was referring to. While a "someday" for games that take advantage of the octo-core is a nice thought, I am more inclined to see the superior performance per thread in things that exist today as being far more notable, especially in a real world usage scenario. During regular, everyday computing my 8350 @ 4.7 was absolutely sluggish next to my 3570K @ 4.2 (and, yes, both builds used similar quality components). The 8350 had an advantage when it came to heavily threaded workloads - however, the slight speed advantage in video editing wasn't enough to overcome the associated noise with trying to keep it cool at those speeds.

    But, really, my thought was that while the idea of new AMD boards may be nice and all, AMD themselves needs to make a competitive CPU to put in them. One that doesn't come with all of the stigmas attached. AMD's competition to Intel is critical for the market and the consumer.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    I agree that a new batch of competitive CPUs from AMD would be nice, but I don't see any problem with their partners trying to improve their Mainboards that they have for current AMD CPUs.

    There is a big difference between my FX-8350 and my FX-9590. It doesn't seem to be sluggish at all and there are no heat issues. (considering the cooler that it came with)
    The noise isn't a problem for me considering the Cougar Vortex 140mm and 120mm fans that I'm using.
    Yes, the FX-9590 produces a lot of heat, but it's dealt with in a positive way in this instance.

    To be honest, the Intel CPUs are faster, but that doesn't translate to a real world usage deficit for me. All of my PCs are fast enough for my usage.

    I'm keeping the FX-9590 around because I see the value in it. (and it was free)
    The FX-8350 is going on the block before long, as are some of the Intel parts.

    Both the Intel and the FX CPUs play the games I like without any problem as long as I have decent GPUs installed.
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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    For all of us 8 core users out there, DirectX 12 very well could be the multicore game buffer we've been wanting.



    AMD Details Upcoming DX12 Features And Their Benefits - Async Shaders And Multi-Threaded Command Buffer Recording

    If this works out, AMD CPUs will be the budget go to rather than the budget necessity.

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    That's OK with me, but will this be just as good with 4-core, 8-threaded Intel CPUs?
    And as I read this, we have to wait for games to be coded to work with this feature.

    One last question, we're going to have to upgrade to Win-10 to get the DX-12 functionality? Or will DX-12 be made available to us who are stuck on win-7 and win-8?

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    That's OK with me, but will this be just as good with 4-core, 8-threaded Intel CPUs?
    And as I read this, we have to wait for games to be coded to work with this feature.

    One last question, we're going to have to upgrade to Win-10 to get the DX-12 functionality? Or will DX-12 be made available to us who are stuck on win-7 and win-8?
    I haven't seen how DirectX 12 handles threads yet, just cores. I know it can handle up to 6 cores though before DRs set in. From what I've seen so far though, Dx 12 should benefit most from cores, meaning users should need one of in Intels 6 core CPUs to get maximum benefit. Waiting on reviews that compare CPUs for that.

    As far as games though,
    https://www.fablelegends.com/
    Dx 12 is helping enable the cross platform support with Xbox One as well as better graphical performance.

    Ashes of the Singularity
    Dx 12 is destroying the RTS map limit as we know it, as well as allowing every individual unit on the map act as it's own light source. This is compared to the maximum of 8 light sources for an entire game that Dx 11 could handle.

    As far as functionality is concerned, I'm still not positive that 12 isn't going to be a Windows 10 thing, but there were some talks of 11.3 versions that would work with Windows 7 for hardware capabilities but lacking some of the extra Dx 12 features. On the bright side, you have a full year after the 10 release to decide if you want to take advantage of the free upgrade. =D

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    Default Re: More New AMD Boards

    nice, am3+ is nicer than am3. but i like am3. or someoene love am3+ ???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakyaneck View Post
    nice, am3+ is nicer than am3. but i like am3. or someoene love am3+ ???????
    Am3+ is backwards compatible with Am3.

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