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    Default The Crosshair V Formula-Z and HPET

    Any of you ever look through your BIOS settings and think, what the heck am I supposed to do? Ah, I'll just leave it alone. Turns out, that can be a bad idea with the newest OSes. I was having a heck of time trying to figure out why my PC started hard locking right after boot, progressively getting worse. Among other things, I finally turned to my BIOS settings to see what could be going on and I found this HPET setting was enabled. I figured I would look into it and I found out that since Windows 8, HPET hasn't been used but that it shouldn't really effect anything. Wouldn't you know it? I disabled it and my system worked flawlessly from there on. Best I can tell, it must of been messing with the TSC standard that Windows 10 currently uses.

    I just ordered a new web cam and I think my first Hardware Hound Video will be a detailed look into the BIOS settings on the Crosshair V Formula-Z. It looks like the board is a perfect contender for mixing old a new settings which is perfect for explaining how these things can affect our systems. Let me know if you think that could be interesting. I'm glad I FINALLY figured that last one out though!

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    Default Re: The Crosshair V Formula-Z and HPET

    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Any of you ever look through your BIOS settings and think, what the heck am I supposed to do? Ah, I'll just leave it alone. Turns out, that can be a bad idea with the newest OSes. I was having a heck of time trying to figure out why my PC started hard locking right after boot, progressively getting worse. Among other things, I finally turned to my BIOS settings to see what could be going on and I found this HPET setting was enabled. I figured I would look into it and I found out that since Windows 8, HPET hasn't been used but that it shouldn't really effect anything. Wouldn't you know it? I disabled it and my system worked flawlessly from there on. Best I can tell, it must of been messing with the TSC standard that Windows 10 currently uses.

    I just ordered a new web cam and I think my first Hardware Hound Video will be a detailed look into the BIOS settings on the Crosshair V Formula-Z. It looks like the board is a perfect contender for mixing old a new settings which is perfect for explaining how these things can affect our systems. Let me know if you think that could be interesting. I'm glad I FINALLY figured that last one out though!
    I think an article on the Nuts and Bolts of all the UEFI settings these days would be GREAT! Would you do a text writeup as well?

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    Default Re: The Crosshair V Formula-Z and HPET

    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    I think an article on the Nuts and Bolts of all the UEFI settings these days would be GREAT! Would you do a text writeup as well?

    Scott
    I'll keep a text write up in mind, just have to see how the video goes. The reason is, what I just wrote here about HPET so barely scratches the surface, that talking through these settings might be a lot easier. I'll try to get it done though. =D

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    Default Re: The Crosshair V Formula-Z and HPET

    Well....using the Crosshair V, you would certainly have every imaginable and possible control to show - at least for AMD systems.

    Personally, I think the ROG BIOS is a convoluted mess. It is like they said "how can we add as many meaningless tweak switches as possible, and make it as counter-intuitive as possible?". It is the Windows Registry of BIOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    It is the Windows Registry of BIOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    pleas no hitting blow the belt,,,fair fighting only
    Oh....I forgot that all voltage regulation tweaks should default to unnecessarily high values to keep operating temps as high as possible. Kind of like Windows User Account Control settings.....

    I tried to love the Crosshair V. Really, I did. But it was that BIOS that made me pull it out of my build.

    "MSI and Gigabyte have 120 settings on their OC Boards? Well, then, we will give ROG boards 250! And we won't even know what some of them do!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Oh....I forgot that all voltage regulation tweaks should default to unnecessarily high values to keep operating temps as high as possible. Kind of like Windows User Account Control settings.....

    I tried to love the Crosshair V. Really, I did. But it was that BIOS that made me pull it out of my build.

    "MSI and Gigabyte have 120 settings on their OC Boards? Well, then, we will give ROG boards 250! And we won't even know what some of them do!"
    Dude, I'm STILL trying the Crosshair, but I'm this close to giving up. I still get BSODs or hard lockups now with Windows 10. Most recent issues: couldn't get the board to recognize my UEFI VGAs. Everything set to legacy BIOS as a result. Once I get my MSI 990FXA Gaming, will test to see if still an issue. Had multiple hard lockups, just freezes, that I fixed with disabling HPET, ECC and possibly other settings. Had to do a fresh install day before yesterday. Found out one of my girls was hard shutting down the comp every time. Everything is pretty great, but last night, while DLing a game, computer crashed and ended up in a BSOD loop that didn't resolve itself until I drained all power from the system, then rebooted. Could be a Windows 10 thing, an AMD driver issue, or, most likely, a motherboard issue. I'll know for sure when I get an MSI board in my test bench and try it all out.

    I did get an MSI 970 Gaming for someones budget build and I've never had a better experience. I seriously think my main issue is this Craptastic Asus board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Dude, I'm STILL trying the Crosshair, but I'm this close to giving up. I still get BSODs or hard lockups now with Windows 10. Most recent issues: couldn't get the board to recognize my UEFI VGAs. Everything set to legacy BIOS as a result. Once I get my MSI 990FXA Gaming, will test to see if still an issue. Had multiple hard lockups, just freezes, that I fixed with disabling HPET, ECC and possibly other settings. Had to do a fresh install day before yesterday. Found out one of my girls was hard shutting down the comp every time. Everything is pretty great, but last night, while DLing a game, computer crashed and ended up in a BSOD loop that didn't resolve itself until I drained all power from the system, then rebooted. Could be a Windows 10 thing, an AMD driver issue, or, most likely, a motherboard issue. I'll know for sure when I get an MSI board in my test bench and try it all out.

    I did get an MSI 970 Gaming for someones budget build and I've never had a better experience. I seriously think my main issue is this Craptastic Asus board.
    I actually have never used an MSI AMD board. I had a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 on hand that I had reviewed when I finally gave up on the CHV. Then I picked up a 3770K and never looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    I actually have never used an MSI AMD board. I had a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 on hand that I had reviewed when I finally gave up on the CHV. Then I picked up a 3770K and never looked back.
    I came really close to picking up Skylake, but they skimped on the eDram for the L3 cache for some reason (it's in Broadwell). Just waiting on either Zen with HBM, or high capacity/performance caches on Intel before I upgrade. Might be the end of 2016 before those things show up though.

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