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    Hello All!


    First off, I am new to the forum so I would like to say hi to everyone! I came to this forum because I am looking at doing a budget build (AMD), and while researching items that I was interested in, I found some reviews from here that were very helpful. The information that I found here seemed really good, and since I plan on doing the build and messing around with overclocking, I figured the knowledge on this board would be helpful in the future. I will be using some older stuff that I already have, along with purchasing newer stuff. I use the computer for a lot of general use, but I like to play games on the side as well. I would possibly be doing video editing/graphics as well, but for right now I do all that on my Mac. I wanted to buy some stuff that I could use for a while, and especially since the newer core AMDs are coming, I wanted a motherboard that would support it. Ok so here is what I was thinking of purchasing:

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

    ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

    ASUS M4A89GTD PRO AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2G 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop

    AMD Phenom II X2 555 Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Black Edition Desktop Processor - C3 Revision Model HDZ555WFGMBOX - Retail

    The case I have is the coolermaster HAF 932. I will be reusing an old hard drive for now. The video card I have is Nvidia Geforce 9600gt 512mb DDR3. I would like to upgrade in the future to an ATI 5000 series card. I currently have Windows XP sp3, but will be upgrading in the future to Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit. The main things I was looking at is unlocking the cores on the cpu, and then overclocking it. The heat sink that I have(im not sure if it is compatible) is the cooler master Hyper TX-2. Would this setup work for the budget and what I would like for now? I think this all came out to 380 bucks from newegg, which basically for now is my max budget. Thanks for the input!
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    Welcome to PureOC Mat!

    A few comments:

    -first off, glad you found the reviews helpful

    -Keep in mind there is the USB 3.0 version of that motherboard available. The one you are showing is not USB 3.0. In my opinion, you should really consider spending the extra few bucks and get the USB 3.0 version. USB 3 is extremely fast and will become mainstream in the not-too-distant future. Jumping to that now will save you hassle, time, and money later and make your rig more futureproof.

    -Keep in mind there is no 100% guarantee that you can unlock the cores on that CPU, but there is a very good chance. Just wanted to say that for the record though.

    -Officially, the TX-2 isn't compatible with AM3. Unofficially, it should fit. It won't be the best cooler for the job, but you can always replace it with a better one later if you want and get the budget.

    -That RAM is good, no question, but you can save money if you go with a cheaper set. Reason I say this is because you're showing 1333MHz, not 1600. And that's fine but there are other sets available at 1333 for less money or even 1600 for the same. 1600 will give you some better overclocking performance, 1333 will save you cash. Your call though.

    Hope that helps so far, feel free to ask anything, we're here to help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    Welcome to PureOC Mat!

    A few comments:

    -first off, glad you found the reviews helpful

    -Keep in mind there is the USB 3.0 version of that motherboard available. The one you are showing is not USB 3.0. In my opinion, you should really consider spending the extra few bucks and get the USB 3.0 version. USB 3 is extremely fast and will become mainstream in the not-too-distant future. Jumping to that now will save you hassle, time, and money later and make your rig more futureproof.

    -Keep in mind there is no 100% guarantee that you can unlock the cores on that CPU, but there is a very good chance. Just wanted to say that for the record though.

    -Officially, the TX-2 isn't compatible with AM3. Unofficially, it should fit. It won't be the best cooler for the job, but you can always replace it with a better one later if you want and get the budget.

    -That RAM is good, no question, but you can save money if you go with a cheaper set. Reason I say this is because you're showing 1333MHz, not 1600. And that's fine but there are other sets available at 1333 for less money or even 1600 for the same. 1600 will give you some better overclocking performance, 1333 will save you cash. Your call though.

    Hope that helps so far, feel free to ask anything, we're here to help!

    Skyguy,


    Thanks a lot for your input! I was thinking of taking the USB 3.0, and I think that I will, just for the reason you mentioned. What would you recommend for a heatsink for this setup? The memory was confusing to me, simply because I was looking at the processor specifications and I thought it was only compatible with 1066, 1333, and 1866 overclocked. I wanted the 1600, but was unsure if it would run with this setup. If so, I will definitely change that. I did have another question. For a good fairly priced PSU, what would you recommend? I currently have an Antech 550 Watt(purchased in 2005, I think). I was thinking that this will be another thing that I have to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    Welcome to the forum Mat Skyguy has given you some good advice.

    Thank you! I look forward to getting to meet everyone and get some good info. I also will post pics when I make the final decision on my hardware and put it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    For a PSU it depends on what you plan on doing or using. Are you planing to eventually have a CF setup, upgrade the CPU later on to a 6Core CPU ect, I would buy at least a 850W to some what future proof what you are doing


    Yup, that is basically my idea. Buy a good, cheaper processor now, and upgrade to the 6 Core later. Should I wait to buy the PSU until I go 6 core? It seems that the motherboard I listed seemed like the best one as far looking to the newer stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    I would go with the mobo that supports USB 3.0 for the few bucks more personally like Jake suggested, and I would upgrade the PSU at the same time you decide to upgrade your video card, the go to the 6 core CPU later.


    Yea I am going to go with the USB 3.0 one. Im definitely interested in seeing what kind of performance these new 6 cores are going to put out as well.

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    Hi Mat Welcome to Pure OC

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    Sup ppl, new guy here too. Friends with Mathestes121.
    I'm watching this thread too. As I am going to be building a new pc soon. And deciding between a all out i7 build or a AMD build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Hi Mat Welcome to Pure OC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelord View Post
    Sup ppl, new guy here too. Friends with Mathestes121.
    I'm watching this thread too. As I am going to be building a new pc soon. And deciding between a all out i7 build or a AMD build.

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    I'd wait until AMD's 6-cores come out before going with one over the other, just to see how things end up in the price/performance categories.

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    im trying to find a good heatsink that will fit this setup. any ideas?

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    The ECO's temps are about the same as most of best air coolers we have tested . CoolIt has yet to send us one for review so we can only go by what we have read in other reviews. As far as AMD I would have to agree and wait for the 6 core to be released .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    The ECO's temps are about the same as most of best air coolers we have tested . CoolIt has yet to send us one for review so we can only go by what we have read in other reviews. As far as AMD I would have to agree and wait for the 6 core to be released .

    That chip that I wanted to get right now, I was considering overclocking it. I was thinking the stock cooler might not be enough but was unsure. I do plan on getting the 6 Core, but probably not until a year from now. That is why I want to get this other processor right now. I was thinking it would be nice if I got a nice cooler now that I could just reuse on the 6 core when I do plan on purchasing it. I never messed with water cooler before, is there an equivalent air cooler that you would recommend?

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    Quick point on your thermal compound, you can often get arctic MX3 for the same price and it tends to work ever so slightly better than the silver 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yblad View Post
    Quick point on your thermal compound, you can often get arctic MX3 for the same price and it tends to work ever so slightly better than the silver 5.

    Thanks for the tip, I will keep an eye out before I buy anything.

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    I like useing either UltraThermal Gel or Zalman STG-01 both come in bottles with a brush attched to the cap, each spread thin so you have to apply then to both the CPU and heatsink but they work better AS5 I use them all the time this is what I have applied on my 980X.

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