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    My upcoming build is going to be an overkill water cooling build in the MurderMod TJ07. I was planning on going dual Feser X-Changer 480 Xtreme Performance Rads in the bottom.
    I'll be starting to order my components in about a month, and last night i was thinking where I could possibly mount the PSU internally.


    My first thought was to mount it straight up and down in the drive bays with the fan sucking air from the inside and venting it through the psu into the lower chamber like this.


    Note "this was quickly made in paint and requires some imagination to see what is going on" The back of the drive bays will also be covered so you wont see any cables from the psu, only the fan"White" surrounded by black aluminum.



    The point of this post is to see if you guys have any other ideas for mounting the psu inside the case but not in the bottom. Please post other ideas or what you think about the build.
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    It's definitely OVERKILL!

    If you must have two 480 rads then go with Moutain Mods case instead to save you all the headache. Any body do MurderMod, it's not original anymore and Charlie seized his production.

    Here's your protential problem with your idea if you haven't thought it thru.
    1. You have no room left to put any pump at the bottom compartment, no room to route the tubing. You have to use major major 90° fitting and extra extra adaptors.
    2. PSU will occupied up to four 5.25" and how are you going to run its power cord? The power cord will be short when you move the PSU to the front of the case
    3. I'm assuming this is going to be two loops setup according to the gfxs. Where and how are you going to install two reservoirs?

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    I am gettinga TJ07 too and right now I am asking myself is 2 x 480 even possible?

    I know a 480 and 240 at the bottom with 360 in the front and 240 at the top with drill holes is possible.

    Deton why do you say there will be no room to route cables or tubing?
    I have 1/2 inch tubing and the phobya G changer 480 rad will be standing of the phobya rad standoff..lot of forums said there wouldnīt be any problems with space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
    Deton why do you say there will be no room to route cables or tubing?
    I have 1/2 inch tubing and the phobya G changer 480 rad will be standing of the phobya rad standoff..lot of forums said there wouldnīt be any problems with space.
    Why?

    because TJ07 is 220mm in width and this measured from panel to panel, so if you measure inside the chassic is a little narrower.

    Feser rad is 62mm thick time two = 124mm + 25mm for fans and also time 2 = 50mm. So if you combine two 480s in parallel, their total thickness is 174mm. You only have 46mm left (given or take), no room left for any pump even DDC one. You will have no room to put your hand in between two rads to put on the tubes, you must use 90° adaptors.

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    In my case I got a D5 and to avoid that problem I originally wanted use the XSPC Bay top or the D5 this way I would not encounter any space problems in the bottom but I donīt wanna fit 2 480s down there anyway.

    But I am thinking to just use 1 480 at the bottom and with my +85 revolution mounted there too I would have enough space or another 240 and the D5 in stock design.

    But the D5 can also easily be mounted at the upper compartment of case with just the tubes going down.
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    I'm using murdermod TJ07 and from experience it is near impossible to fit 2x480 rads at the bottom. Even if you could, you will not be able to accomodate the PSU any where.

    My original setup was a 360 + 240 and i was struggling to put the pump at the bottom. The max i believe you could do is to have a 480 + 240 and a PSU at the bottom and have the Pumps sit in the main compartment around the motherboard area, but that would already compromise the Murdermod sleek look.

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    @Bullydog; tell them how many 90° fittings you use to connect the tubing.

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    I have the Phobya G Changer 480 + Phobya Radiator Stand.
    1/2 inch Primochill tubing.
    Alphacool VPP655.
    Phobya Balancer 250.

    I have seen a lot of people putting the pump in the lower compartment but I dont wanna do that.
    I thought it would be best to have the pump in the upper main compartment and the tubes trough the two square holes ....but I am afraid the thick sleeving from my +85 Revolution is too thick to pass tubes and the cables through the holes.

    What do you think would be best to route and configure my WC gear in my case?

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    bullydog?

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    Two 480s is seeming to look like too much. Just started to think about mounting the pump and relised its would be at very tight fit no matter where I put them, because I would never put a pump in the top chamber.

    About the Mountain Mods cases, they seem nice but I like the thought of having all my watercooling components in a lower chamber or where i can hide alot of the clutter. Also imo the Mountain Mods cases look really plain, if I where to get a case like that it would be from DangerDen.

    Oh and MuderMod will be starting production again early this year. BTW the only reason I'am going with the murdermod TJ07 is because it looks very clean and having an inverted atx case would reduse the amount of tubing used in the loop i have planed out.

    So now for another question. Sense dual 480s is nearly imposible what do you think about dual Black Ice GTX360 Rads? I'am thinking this would save just enough room to mount the pumps eather at the front of the lower chamber or the back and would allow some more room inbetween the rads.

    I'am still planning on mounting the PSU in the drive bays because it would use up alot of unused space and hide alot of wirering. And for the question of how i would run the power cord. I have a low profile sleeved three prong extension cord I plan to run through the case and have it mounted to the back panel where i can hook up another extention to get it to the power bar.

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    Abandon the idea of mounting more than one 480 rad in the bottom section.
    Have a 480 in the lower compartment and a 240 ..then drill holes for the other 240 at the top and a 360 in the front...and the PSU could still be mounted at the bottom with the 240
    Why would you wanna hide a MCP655?? I wanna show it off that is why I will have it in the upper section with just the tubing running down the square hole....cause the pump is quite big and you donīt want the hot exhaust air of the rad blowing on the pump right?Bad enough it hits your PSU a little put that can at least cool itself

    Only thing I am worried about now is how the a 480 is fastened in that case ...and by that I mean screwed down.I got a radiator stand but I am still not sure how that is gonna work out.

    Another thing is the fat sleeving of my psu and the 1/2 inch tubing...will it all fit through the square holes?

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    TJ07 can take one triple rad or quad and a dual or single at the bottom which it's still allow you to leave the PSU there.

    There is no room else for anything if you install two 480s or 360s PREIOD. NOT even have room for a pump.

    Bullydog only installed one 360 + 240 and he had some issue with the pump and tubing. I was consulting him with the installation. You guys haven't have a case in front of you so it's very hard to visualize it. Go by the measurement not by visual or you will be sorry. Bullydog can verify this for you.

    @Joshp; I'm assuming you will have two loops. How are you planning to install the reservoirs?

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    After much thought I have scraped the idea of doing an overkill water cooling build in the TJ07.

    The build will now be in the: DangerDen Black-Series - LDR - Tower 29 ( http://www.dangerden.com/store/black...-tower-29.html )

    I've picked this case because it allows me to mount a 560rad and a 420 rad internally with out any mods. I'll just have to put allot of time into the cable management.

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    This thread is not longer needed and when the new evga gpus come out the build will begin on another thread. Your still welcome to say what you think about what I have chosen and/or give ideas
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    here is another Danger Den case but it's not the same case though.
    ***Danger Den Black Series - Tower 26 Build Complete!***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
    I have the Phobya G Changer 480 + Phobya Radiator Stand.
    1/2 inch Primochill tubing.
    Alphacool VPP655.
    Phobya Balancer 250.

    I have seen a lot of people putting the pump in the lower compartment but I dont wanna do that.
    I thought it would be best to have the pump in the upper main compartment and the tubes trough the two square holes ....but I am afraid the thick sleeving from my +85 Revolution is too thick to pass tubes and the cables through the holes.

    What do you think would be best to route and configure my WC gear in my case?
    Sorry for the late reply, there are multiple ways how you wanna configure your WC build on a TJ07. You can have the pump sitting in the main compartment but i think it kinda defeats the purpose of the clean overall look inside the TJ07 you wanna hide those pumps away as your HDDs are definitely gonna occupy the 5.25" drive bays.

    Regarding sleeving the +85 Revolution, the best way is to cut a small rectangular hole along the motherboard tray for those PSU cables to be routed from the bottom of the TJ07 to the upper section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    @Bullydog; tell them how many 90° fittings you use to connect the tubing.
    Yeah a ton of them especially at the bottom where the 2 rads sit, you gonna use 4x 90° fittings, i have another 2 more on the Pump, that makes it 6 already. 2 more 90° in the main compartment for the Reservoir. Depending on your configuration you might need more on other waterblocks itself

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