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    Default Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

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    Still don't know which case (microATX case actually) i will buy. After not-so extensive reading and watching reviews, i decided to pick either of those case. I know Corsair 350D, Fractal Design Define (or Arc) Mini, Cooler Master N200, Bitfenix Prodigy (or Phenom) M, but those case are not so appealing to me.

    Corsair 350D and FD Define (or Arc) Mini is still big in my opinion. I already have Antec 900 which i will give to my uncle (and it is big). Besides, i still opted to air cooling, and based on review i read, those case are optimal for AIO or custom watercooling with rad and other stuff.

    Cooler Master N200. Well, no dust filter in the front (same as my 900), still bigger than TJ08-e or PS07, and it's basically no different than my 900 (PSU on the bottom, front mesh intake)

    About Bitfenix. Small, but i do not like the styling.


    Yes, the TJ08-E and PS07 are basically the same case, but i already have 2 Gentle Typhoon AP-15 as intake in my 900 (and yes, i will ditch the AP-15 before sending my 900 to uncle )


    My question is, 2 GT AP-15 versus 1 Air Penetrator AP181, which one will cool better? Or there's any other microATX case that interesting enough for me to take a look?


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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mampus View Post
    Hello

    Still don't know which case (microATX case actually) i will buy. After not-so extensive reading and watching reviews, i decided to pick either of those case. I know Corsair 350D, Fractal Design Define (or Arc) Mini, Cooler Master N200, Bitfenix Prodigy (or Phenom) M, but those case are not so appealing to me.

    Corsair 350D and FD Define (or Arc) Mini is still big in my opinion. I already have Antec 900 which i will give to my uncle (and it is big). Besides, i still opted to air cooling, and based on review i read, those case are optimal for AIO or custom watercooling with rad and other stuff.

    Cooler Master N200. Well, no dust filter in the front (same as my 900), still bigger than TJ08-e or PS07, and it's basically no different than my 900 (PSU on the bottom, front mesh intake)

    About Bitfenix. Small, but i do not like the styling.


    Yes, the TJ08-E and PS07 are basically the same case, but i already have 2 Gentle Typhoon AP-15 as intake in my 900 (and yes, i will ditch the AP-15 before sending my 900 to uncle )


    My question is, 2 GT AP-15 versus 1 Air Penetrator AP181, which one will cool better? Or there's any other microATX case that interesting enough for me to take a look?


    Thanks for answering
    Well i personally do not like either of the cases you ask about. Yuck! What about the Colossus Micro ATX, The Urban T31, Define R4(Great Case), Arc Midi R2(Another great one),Carbide 2003 and 300r, CM HAF XB, Air540. There are just too many great cases out to just settle for something like the TJ08 or PS07.

    The difference in internal air cooling are not great enough for me to even look into. If you were putting them on a RAD or even the CPU cooler it would matter some but just as intake and exhaust fans just don't account for enough for me to worry about.
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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    I have done builds in the TJ-08E, and it is a fantastic case. It isn't something you would want to be making a lot of changes with, only in that doing anything in it tends to get overly involved, but once it is together it is awesome. The airflow with the AP181 is exceptional, and the positive pressure design works very well in cooling and keeping it dust free. It also happens to be very well built.

    I have never been hands on with the PS07,.so I have no input there.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Well i personally do not like either of the cases you ask about. Yuck! What about the Colossus Micro ATX, The Urban T31, Define R4(Great Case), Arc Midi R2(Another great one),Carbide 2003 and 300r, CM HAF XB, Air540. There are just too many great cases out to just settle for something like the TJ08 or PS07.

    The difference in internal air cooling are not great enough for me to even look into. If you were putting them on a RAD or even the CPU cooler it would matter some but just as intake and exhaust fans just don't account for enough for me to worry about.
    Hmm, Colossus mATX is basically the same case as Prodigy M, which i don't like it's styling (and it's internal layout). Urban T31 is obviously an ATX case, same as Define R4, Arc Midi R2, HAF XB, and Carbide series (which all of them are ATX), and some of them are indeed bigger than my 900

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    I have done builds in the TJ-08E, and it is a fantastic case. It isn't something you would want to be making a lot of changes with, only in that doing anything in it tends to get overly involved, but once it is together it is awesome. The airflow with the AP181 is exceptional, and the positive pressure design works very well in cooling and keeping it dust free. It also happens to be very well built.

    I have never been hands on with the PS07,.so I have no input there.
    PS07 is just like TJ08-E but instead of 180mm AP intake, they opted to choose 2 (two) 120mm instead.

    Well, i upgraded every 4-5 years, so i wouldn't make lot of changes (excluding maintenance from dust etc.)

    Glad to hear that TJ08-E is very well built, because in the SPCR review of TJ08-E, they say the internal structures are wobbly without a top-to-bottom drive cage or support beams.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mampus View Post
    Hmm, Colossus mATX is basically the same case as Prodigy M, which i don't like it's styling (and it's internal layout). Urban T31 is obviously an ATX case, same as Define R4, Arc Midi R2, HAF XB, and Carbide series (which all of them are ATX), and some of them are indeed bigger than my 900



    PS07 is just like TJ08-E but instead of 180mm AP intake, they opted to choose 2 (two) 120mm instead.

    Well, i upgraded every 4-5 years, so i wouldn't make lot of changes (excluding maintenance from dust etc.)

    Glad to hear that TJ08-E is very well built, because in the SPCR review of TJ08-E, they say the internal structures are wobbly without a top-to-bottom drive cage or support beams.

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    Yes I am aware they support ATX. They also support smaller boards as well. Which is why they were listed. Options, showing there were other cases besides the 2 you listed that are limited on cable management and just boring as heck. They remind me of the old cases from 10 years ago. lol Maybe paint it beige so you can have a retro build. But if you want to be limited to those style cases then ok. Some of them were a little bigger and I listed them for room for future expansion.

    The internals of the Colossus and Prodigy M are the same but the external style are not even close to being alike. I actually thought I didnt like the layout of the Prodigy M until I did the review on the case. Turns out it was way better then I thought. I didn't like the original Prodigy but I love the M version.

    How about the Rosewill legacy U3-B with the side window. Different but may be something you like. In WIN Dragon Slayer, Lian Li PC-V354B, Antec New Solution VSk-3000, Urban Sd1, Urban S1.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mampus View Post
    Glad to hear that TJ08-E is very well built, because in the SPCR review of TJ08-E, they say the internal structures are wobbly without a top-to-bottom drive cage or support beams.

    SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E: MicroATX Evolved | silentpcreview.com

    It's a modular construction, like a unibody car. The individual pieces make up a very sturdy whole unit. Pretty sure I saw that in another review that wasn't from SPCR....

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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Yes I am aware they support ATX. They also support smaller boards as well. Which is why they were listed. Options, showing there were other cases besides the 2 you listed that are limited on cable management and just boring as heck. They remind me of the old cases from 10 years ago. lol Maybe paint it beige so you can have a retro build. But if you want to be limited to those style cases then ok. Some of them were a little bigger and I listed them for room for future expansion.

    The internals of the Colossus and Prodigy M are the same but the external style are not even close to being alike. I actually thought I didnt like the layout of the Prodigy M until I did the review on the case. Turns out it was way better then I thought. I didn't like the original Prodigy but I love the M version.

    How about the Rosewill legacy U3-B with the side window. Different but may be something you like. In WIN Dragon Slayer, Lian Li PC-V354B, Antec New Solution VSk-3000, Urban Sd1, Urban S1.

    Prodigy M build.
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    Limited at cable management, yes, but right now i have only one HDD, one ODD, one graphic card that use 2x6 pin PIC-e, so i'm not worry about that. Boring? Yeah, they just plain looking, but i love it! Honesly, I'm that kind of guy

    Future expansion? Well, when i have C2D E6600 with GeForce 7900GS in 2007, i think i will go SLi, so i buy Abit AW9D-Max at that time (ATX board, lots of OC stuff, support SLi of cource), but in fact, i never use it. So, when Sandy Bridge came out, i started to think, "What i actually need?". Turns that i only need one mid-to-high card (ended up buying 560Ti OC), one HDD (SSD is obviously expensive at that time), a OC-able processor (2500k) so that i can increase the clock when needed, and a smaller mobo (P8P67M-Pro). Now, i want a smaller case to 'complete' that. Seriously, is anyone buy Cosmos II with ITX mobo, one SSD, and one HDD? What a waste of space


    Yes, the original Prodigy is too big for an ITX case. I think Rosewill and Antec VSK-3000 is not available in my country. IN WIN Dragon Slayer is a nice case, but still too flashy for me . Urban SD1 will not house my Noctua U9B SE2, and S1 are poor with cable management (same as my 900)

    Wow, what a nice and clean build! But i still love air-cooling, so yeah...


    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    It's a modular construction, like a unibody car. The individual pieces make up a very sturdy whole unit. Pretty sure I saw that in another review that wasn't from SPCR....
    Yeah. Like $1 coin, it's not much, but if there's 100.000 coins of $1, you can buy a car with that (imagine if you buy a car or Pc component with bunch of coins)


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    Finally I bought the TJ08E. Fantastic and nice case, but challenging to build. I love the inverted motherboard layout and the build quality of it




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mampus View Post
    Finally I bought the TJ08E. Fantastic and nice case, but challenging to build. I love the inverted motherboard layout and the build quality of it




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    Default Re: Help me pick a case (TJ08-E or PS07)

    Glad that worked out. I really liked my TJ-08E.

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