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    Sounds very interesting, so we could keep what ever Rads we have installed, and have them work with the chiller unit, but would there be any kind of temp loss using the chiller with say a 360Rad ?

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    Great question Stan,
    I would think we could probably take the rad or out of the loop if it hindered the performance or it just may not matter.
    and what about the reservoir and the amount of water it holds?

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    For clarification, the chiller unit takes the place of the radiators and fans. EDIT: it has the same function in the loop.

    Retaining the rads in the loop would put more stress on the chiller as it would be cooling the air passing through the rad too

    I am loving the compact nature of this and am really curious about load/temp curves and db under load.
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    So water blocks only then? no pump or reservoir?

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    Pretty slick.

    Price and power draw would be my main concerns.

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    I would expect to have to use pump and res from existing loop. Like I said this does the same thing as just a rad.

    Price? I don't even want to guess

    Power draw? This will depend on the coefficient of performance or COP. but because of the compact nature of the unit I do not expect this to be really high .... guessing here but between 3 and 5 to 1 which means that removing say 200 watts of heat would require from 66w to 40w of energy input plus any losses. so waaay better than say TEC cooling
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I would expect to have to use pump and res from existing loop. Like I said this does the same thing as just a rad.

    Price? I don't even want to guess

    Power draw? This will depend on the coefficient of performance or COP. but because of the compact nature of the unit I do not expect this to be really high .... guessing here but between 3 and 5 to 1 which means that removing say 200 watts of heat would require from 66w to 40w of energy input plus any losses. so waaay better than say TEC cooling
    If that holds, Looking at around 175W for my setup.

    Big stepup for the average PS.

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    The Boreas chiller has been used with Rads, and cooling performance did not take a hit, we had a member, his name was Chris that posted his results with the chiller cooling just his 980x, and then he added a 2nd chiller as well as a couple of dual chip GTXs into the loop, and he never hit over 56c and this was with the chip at 5GHz.

    What Daren has is new technology, so we have no idea how his chiller performs with a Rad added, we have to wait for his reply, not guess.

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    Put the rad before the chiller and it should cool the water pre chilled........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Put the rad before the chiller and it should cool the water pre chilled........
    Which would save compressor run time as to power and cycling.

    Is running a compressor?, As not up on these.

    This looks more interesting all the time.
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    WOW! Look what the cat dragged in!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    The Boreas chiller has been used with Rads, and cooling performance did not take a hit, we had a member, his name was Chris that posted his results with the chiller cooling just his 980x, and then he added a 2nd chiller as well as a couple of dual chip GTXs into the loop, and he never hit over 56c and this was with the chip at 5GHz.

    What Daren has is new technology, so we have no idea how his chiller performs with a Rad added, we have to wait for his reply, not guess.
    Rads will not help our product, it will only hurt it. When you use a rad you are blowing ambient temp air into the water. The water output from the CPU/GPU blocks is still way below ambient, so if you use a rad it will put heat into the water from the room. Grumpdaddy is correct that our chiller takes the place of the rad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I would expect to have to use pump and res from existing loop. Like I said this does the same thing as just a rad.

    Price? I don't even want to guess

    Power draw? This will depend on the coefficient of performance or COP. but because of the compact nature of the unit I do not expect this to be really high .... guessing here but between 3 and 5 to 1 which means that removing say 200 watts of heat would require from 66w to 40w of energy input plus any losses. so waaay better than say TEC cooling
    You are correct that the chiller takes the place of the rad.

    Price- unknown at this time. Would be great to hear what you guys think people would pay for the increased performance. I know you guys would want to pay as little as possible, but we are still evaluating the viability of the product. We are dealing with expensive components (military grade compressor and circuit board) and for the moment we would be producing in low quanities (which means we are paying more for the components that we would be when we can mass produce). So this thing is not cheap to make. I can post some performance numbers for you (you guys will be the first to see this). Keep in mind that we are still improving it but the current numbers are pretty impressive.

    Power draw- the unit we showed at CES was running off of a single 12v rail of a 1000w PSU. The compressor maxes out at 10a (120v) when running full power. But we didn't have to run it more than slightly above 50% capacity to get the performance we got, which is about 60-70w. And we were cooling a 2600k OC'd to 5.2 and an OC'd EVGA 580 GTX, running Cinebench or Prime 95.

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    Hi Guys. I will be starting a new thread where I will post more info about the product and would like to pose some questions to you as experts and our target market. Any reply are appreciated. Thanks.

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    wazzup with you guys about the radiator?

    You miss the conception of the chiller, radiator acts as a heater if it is used conjunction with the chiller.

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    Why would you even want to keep the rad? With a chiller even if it didn't hurt cooling it would clutter the case.

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