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    Default The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing



    Danny explores how hardcore gamers are killing the Xbox One

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    Lmao. Dumb pricks. Xbox is losing because they made a crappy product... They shouldn't blame it on the consumer.

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    Quote Originally Posted by averageninja View Post
    lmao. Dumb pricks. Xbox is losing because they made a crappy product... They shouldn't blame it on the consumer.
    lmfao

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    lol! haven't MS just announced that a version without the Kinect will come?? anyway, i'm not gonna pre-order either of them. Always too many bugs and problems with the 1. gen of pretty much anything, be it hardware or software.

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    Softcore gamers are the majority, yes, but they do not make the consoles that much money.
    The hardware makes little to negative profit. The games and peripherals is where the money is and the hardcore is who spends that money.
    The softcore may kick in a year or two down the road when they buy and the hardware may actually turn a tiny profit for them. And hey, there's the online access fees. But in the grand scheme of things, you need at least a dozen softcore users to make up the one hardcore user.

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMatt View Post
    Softcore gamers are the majority, yes, but they do not make the consoles that much money.
    The hardware makes little to negative profit. The games and peripherals is where the money is and the hardcore is who spends that money.
    The softcore may kick in a year or two down the road when they buy and the hardware may actually turn a tiny profit for them. And hey, there's the online access fees. But in the grand scheme of things, you need at least a dozen softcore users to make up the one hardcore user.
    I would think that each make more off the digital sale than anything. I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N3X7Cr45h View Post
    I would think that each make more off the digital sale than anything. I could be wrong.
    True, MS takes a bigger cut there, but again, who buys digital? The hardcore. Softcore users may buy DLC to that one sports game or the one shooter they play. They'll probably even buy the online pass for xbl/psn.

    The hardcore buys the pass, they buy dlc and then they buy other download only games from the marketplace too. They are a lot more invested and allot more money to their hobby.

    It's not like I can give any hard numbers, but I buy a lot of games (mostly steam) and when I look at what I buy in a month, most of my friends that play more casually buy that in maybe six months to a year.
    I have a friend who only plays the NHL series. He buys the game every year and a year of gold, that's it. Nothing else, ever. He has one controller and the xbox is wired.
    MS makes all of 65-70 bucks off of him yearly.
    I make them more than that in a month.

    Now sure, if we all go PS4 next year, he would probably too since he doesn't give a **** either way, but that is not a lot of money for Sony. If I add up all my friends that are in this similar vein, they'd make Sony maybe a thousand dollars a year. I am confident I would make them that much by myself... that said, I do not intend to be an early adopter again.

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    Default Re: The Point - Why The Xbox Is Losing

    they should knock off a $100 but knowing MS they will probably do $50 and make up a story as to why it still cost more that PS4.
    You don't know me and that's the way i like it!

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