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    Would a 220 be enough to cool a 980x, and nb/sb?

    I'm planning to do a new pc Build soon, and I'm starting to get a general idea of what I would like/need. I'm leaning torwards the 980x, R3E and 3 GTX470s instead of dual 5870 Matrix. Cheaper yet much more powerful. Power consumption wouldn't be a issue, since I wont be using that much each day, so the performance increase via CPU and GPU would help me finish more in a short amount of time.

    And yes I'm jumping into the water cooling bandwagon thanks to many people, *coughs*deton*coughs* >_>.

    I'll be doing a dual loop system, with two D5's or maybe the mcp355's. Since I don't have the tools to mod cases, I'll be going for the 800D or the HAF-X. The problem is, It doesn't have room for 2 triples, but only enough for a single triple and a dual on the outside. So I'm just going to go for a decent triple and a GOOD 220.

    How shall I setup the loop though? Would dual be better? Of course, just since I have 3 470s, 980x then Full cover mobo sinks, I'm not sure if I should use the triple for 980x or the triple for 470s. I'm leaning torwards using the triple for the gpus, but would a 220 Be enough to handle Mobo and 980x? With a mild OC of at least 4.0? And I'll be getting some 1800rpm scythes, they won't be to loud would they?

    I would really like this build to look clean on the outside, make it quiet as close to a dell system if possible, While on the inside, it'll tear apart anything I throw at it. Metro2033 1080P Renders. etc.

    PS: Sorry if I have any grammatical mistakes, or spelling. :P Not really paying attention to that.

    I'll list out the parts once I get a chance, suggestions would be nice, even if it requires me changing all my parts idc, I'm still in the thinking/planning stage.

    PSS: You guys think this setup would last in terms of performance and future proofing for at least 3-5 years? Like say Crysis 3 Came out, it would still be able to run it with High-Max IQ in at least 1080P with 30fps or more?
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    IMO, I would not waste time and money cooling NB and SB. There really is no gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    IMO, I would not waste time and money cooling NB and SB. There really is no gain.
    Well this build leaning towards form over Function to be honest. :P


    Could we keep it on track though? Tripple for the CPU or the gpu's

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    Does it HAVE to be that cursed 800D? Just asking. If you went with the HAF X, I'd say to look into 3x 200mm radiators.

    A 220 will cool the 980x by itself, but not if you OC it at all. You need a triple if you're going to OC it, and not a thin Swifty or GTS. I'd also worry about trying to cool 3x 470s on one triple.

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    Triple for CPU. I am with Earth on the 3 x 470's. You may need a 120.4.... I am sure the WC wizard will chime in...... Those Fermi's run pretty warm.

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    Here is my quick dirty rule of thumb to determine radiator cooling capacity. A single 120mm rad can dissipate 150W - 200W of heat, of course this is depend on fan speed, flow rate and size of the rad. So I would go by 150W number for the worse case scenario.
    120.1 = 150W
    120.2 = 300W
    120.3 = 450W
    120.4 = 600W

    980x is running cooler than 920. However, it's still pumping out 300W of heat when you overclock it to 4Ghz. So it's ok to use 120.2 to chill 980x under 4Ghz or stock with mobo in the same loop but 120.3 is better. BTW, those NB/SB for X58 boards don't dump out a lot of heat though.

    And for 470s; definitely a 120.3 on its own loop.

    Fan; if you go with thicker rads then you should get high flow rate and RPM fans. I would use a fan controller when you go with high speed fans, then you can turn it down to please your ears when at normal computing and just crank it up when needed.

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    It doesn't have to be the 800D Just I would much prefer it. Those Antec 200mm Radiators do seem nice, But would they fit? And would it offer better, or worse performance. I don't want to be a guinea pig here.

    NVM on the Antec Rad's, frigging Aluminum


    And, I was looking around pics of the 800D, Seems like I could manage to fit another 120 or 220 Into the bottom of the case, Is it ok if it pulls in a tad warmer air? Compared to ambient.

    The main purpose of this Form over function build well, allow it last for years to come, and come with a bling Factor.

    I don't need the very best cooling performance, but something that would Offer better than air cooling, while dropping noise.

    I'm already going with Scythe 120mm or 140mm 1850RPM fans, combined with a Lamptron, or maybe a zalman controller.

    How about a single loop setup, with dual pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post
    Those Antec 200mm Radiators do seem nice, But would they fit? And would it offer better, or worse performance. I don't want to be a guinea pig here.

    NVM on the Antec Rad's, frigging Aluminum
    what radiator are we talking here?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post
    And, I was looking around pics of the 800D, Seems like I could manage to fit another 120 or 220 Into the bottom of the case, Is it ok if it pulls in a tad warmer air? Compared to ambient.
    yes you can install a 120.1 at the bottom bay or a 120.2 with a little mod.
    How do you plan you configure your radiator fans, intake or exhaust?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post
    The main purpose of this Form over function build well, allow it last for years to come, and come with a bling Factor.

    I don't need the very best cooling performance, but something that would Offer better than air cooling, while dropping noise.
    so you just want to look cool but performance is secondary, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post
    I'm already going with Scythe 120mm or 140mm 1850RPM fans, combined with a Lamptron, or maybe a zalman controller.

    How about a single loop setup, with dual pumps.
    why 140mm fan, unless you go with 140mm rad?

    yes you can do one single giant loop with mulitple rad and pump in series but you still have enough radiator to dissipate the heat load.

    Do you have any idea how much heat load are you doing to chill here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    what radiator are we talking here?
    The Antec BigBoy 200mm



    yes you can install a 120.1 at the bottom bay or a 120.2 with a little mod.
    How do you plan you configure your radiator fans, intake or exhaust?
    The Top 320 Would be exhaust, 120.2 on the outside would be Exhaust as well, The 120mm At the bottom would be intake. If you have any suggestions please list them


    so you just want to look cool but performance is secondary, right?
    Well, Both Cool and Performance, but It doesn't have to be the best performance I can get.

    why 140mm fan, unless you go with 140mm rad?

    The 140mm Fans are to replace the Original Corsair ones, HDD bays etc.,


    yes you can do one single giant loop with mulitple rad and pump in series but you still have enough radiator to dissipate the heat load.

    2 Loops would be better than one though right? According to the configuration I listed


    Do you have any idea how much heat load are you doing to chill here?
    Yeah. Quite Alot. TDP on the 470s are around 250w ish right? x3, then 300w for OC'd 980x

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    there are no radiator call Antec Bigboy, you were referring to the 200m fan.

    yes you can use the bottom 120.1 rad fan as intake but how much heat load are you going to blow it back inside the case?

    So the 120.3 top rad will draw the hot the case hot air, this case air will alway be over 30C. It's better to use this rad for the graphics card but the graphics card can run hotter than the CPU. You can use the external rad to cool the CPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    there are no radiator call Antec Bigboy, you were referring to the 200m fan.

    yes you can use the bottom 120.1 rad fan as intake but how much heat load are you going to blow it back inside the case?

    So the 120.3 top rad will draw the hot the case hot air, this case air will alway be over 30C. It's better to use this rad for the graphics card but the graphics card can run hotter than the CPU. You can use the external rad to cool the CPU.

    Well, after watching this video, I contemplated about getting 2 320s one on the outside and one on the inside, this way it'll be much better, and since I found that Koolance made a pretty cool bracket for mounting rads on the outside

    Would you recommend the top rad drawing air into the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    what radiator are we talking here?
    Antec does make a ****ty 200mm radiator, but, this is not the radiator I was referring to. I meant the Phobya 200mm of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post
    Would you recommend the top rad drawing air into the case?
    Depends on the case you are going to use but as long you have good exhaust fan configure then you should be ok.

    I don't see much of the problem if your setup is totaly water cooled.


    Quote Originally Posted by Earthmonger View Post
    Antec does make a ****ty 200mm radiator, but, this is not the radiator I was referring to. I meant the Phobya 200mm of course.
    never heard of the Antec one but do hear about the Phobya rad though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthmonger View Post
    Does it HAVE to be that cursed 800D? Just asking. If you went with the HAF X, I'd say to look into 3x 200mm radiators.

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    Earth, I'd like to know what you have against the 800D ? I've been using this case since the day I reviewed it, I love it. Do you own one, if so what kind of problems are you having ?

    I also have the HAF-X sitting here and I can tell you that it does not have the same amount of room as the 800D does and that's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Earth, I'd like to know what you have against the 800D ? I've been using this case since the day I reviewed it, I love it. Do you own one, if so what kind of problems are you having ?

    I also have the HAF-X sitting here and I can tell you that it does not have the same amount of room as the 800D does and that's a fact.
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    I just wrote a rant about this, but it's better that I summarize. I hate the 800D because it sucks for watercooling. Literally thousands of people buy the 800D and then ask for watercooling advice, but aren't prepared to do the necessary modding to make it a functional case. They are dissuaded from getting into WaCo because of their case choice. And the 800D is an overhyped, overpriced whore of a case. /End.

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