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    I am thnking of getting a Noctua NH D14 to replace my CM V6GT,but I will replace the D14's fans with 3xCM SF 120mm 2000rpm/90cfm led fans,will this be much cooler than the V6GT?
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    Noctua D14 continues to be one of the best air cooling solutions.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Noctua D14 continues to be one of the best air cooling solutions.

    By changing to higher rpm fans is gonna make it even better right?If thats the case,I am going ahead to configure it into a 3 fan push/pull with CM SF Led fans for some serious cooling with bling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Noctua D14 continues to be one of the best air cooling solutions.




    Take a look again at that graph... The Cooler Master V6 GT posts identical scores to the Noctua DH 14 when the fans are spinning at 2200 rpms, and this continues until the top test here at 3.8 Ghz where the DH-14 is 0.75C better at idle... literally neck -and-neck. The lower score is when the V6 GT fans are spinning at 1100 rpm. The fans are supposedly "annoying" at that speed though, according to the reviewer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eido.cohen View Post
    Take a look again at that graph... The Cooler Master V6 GT posts identical scores to the Noctua DH 14 when the fans are spinning at 2200 rpms, and this continues until the top test here at 3.8 Ghz where the DH-14 is 0.75C better at idle... literally neck -and-neck. The lower score is when the V6 GT fans are spinning at 1100 rpm. The fans are supposedly "annoying" at that speed though, according to the reviewer.
    Based on these graphs & everyone's analysis,its gonna get even better if I installed 3x120mm 2000rpm fansAs for the fan noise,I can live with it as long as it delivers the performance required
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    Quote Originally Posted by eido.cohen View Post
    Take a look again at that graph... The Cooler Master V6 GT posts identical scores to the Noctua DH 14 when the fans are spinning at 2200 rpms, and this continues until the top test here at 3.8 Ghz where the DH-14 is 0.75C better at idle... literally neck -and-neck. The lower score is when the V6 GT fans are spinning at 1100 rpm. The fans are supposedly "annoying" at that speed though, according to the reviewer.

    Nice try(not an apples to apples comparison), but I circled the 1100 RPM's due to Noctua D14 was tested @ 1300 RPM's. I accidentally posted the stock screen shot twice instead of stock/overclock. Here is the overclock screenie and the D-14 beats it at 3.5GHz. The results are close(V6 @ 2200RPM's) but the D14 beats it.... Again, the Noctua was tested with 1300RPMs so at 2200RPM's the Noctua would pull farther ahead. How much? they did not test it with 2200 RPM's like the V6........ Eido. I would have thought you would have caught that. Sometimes it isn't what it seems. LOL....




    Biff, why don't you look into watercooling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Nice try but I circled the 1100 RPM's due to Noctua D14 was 1300 RPM's. I accidentally posted the stock screen shot twice instead of stock/overclock. Here is the overclock screenie and the D-14 beats it at 3.5GHz. The results are close(V6 @ 2200RPM's) but the D14 beats it.... Again, the Noctua was tested with 1300RPMs so at 2200RPM's the Noctua would pull farther ahead. How much? they did not test it with 2200 RPM's like the V6........ Eido. I would have thought you would have caught that. Sometimes it isn't what it seems. LOL....




    Biff, why don't you look into watercooling?
    You mean Custom liquid cooling with dual or quad fan radiators?I know next to nothing about Liquid cooling,also the previous 2 LCs I tried(Corsair H50,TT BW760I)were not quite impressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff73 View Post
    You mean Custom liquid cooling with dual or quad fan radiators?I know next to nothing about Liquid cooling,also the previous 2 LCs I tried(Corsair H50,TT BW760I)were not quite impressive
    Custom cooling is simple........... LOL you used Thermaktake(Thermalbreak)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Custom cooling is simple........... LOL you used Thermaktake(Thermalbreak)
    If I wanna go into Custom liquid cooling,I would not just want a cpu hsf,I will want custom heatsinks for all my GPU,that will cost a bomb,my girlfriend sees my LC rig,she would want one,then I will be broke as a jokeNevermind,I will stick more simple solutions,perhaps Corsair H70?I still prefer the idea of a tri fan push/pull cooler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Nice try(not an apples to apples comparison), but I circled the 1100 RPM's due to Noctua D14 was tested @ 1300 RPM's. I accidentally posted the stock screen shot twice instead of stock/overclock. Here is the overclock screenie and the D-14 beats it at 3.5GHz. The results are close(V6 @ 2200RPM's) but the D14 beats it.... Again, the Noctua was tested with 1300RPMs so at 2200RPM's the Noctua would pull farther ahead. How much? they did not test it with 2200 RPM's like the V6........ Eido. I would have thought you would have caught that. Sometimes it isn't what it seems. LOL....




    Biff, why don't you look into watercooling?

    On the one hand, I agree with you that the fans are spinning at different speeds, so it isn't pure apples to apples. But, as you say, "sometimes it isn't what it seems". 2200 rpm fans would not increase the performance of the Noctua D14. What matters is the amount of air each fan can blow at max performance. Please read on for more details...

    The whole point of the D14 is that it is among the best coolers, and it can do so nearly silently. The lower speed Noctua fans actually push out more air than the higher speed Cooler master fans. To the opposite of how it is with humans, what matters is that "it's not how fast you spin it, but how deep you can push it".

    Take a look at the CFMs pushed out by the two Noctua fans. At 1200 rpm for the 140mm fan, that fan pushes 110.3 CFM, and at 1300 rpm for the 120mm fan, that fan is pushing 92.3 CFM. Now, looking at the Coolermaster V6 GT's fans, at 2200 rpm they are each pushing 93.74 CFM. So, the lower speed Noctua fans push out more total air than the higher speed CM fans. If anything, the comparison is unfair for the opposite reason you stated; the Noctua fans are actually higher performers than the CM ones. Putting 2200 rpm fans would likely decrease the performance of the Noctua.

    Again, I will stand by my assertion - if noise is not an issue, the CM V6 GT at top fan speed is equivalent to the Noctua at top fan speed. The advantage of the D14 over the V6 GT is in regards to its capacity for top performance coupled with low noise and not to its overall capacity for cooling.

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    I think most of us understand about CFM's/ The term you used is likely. At higher voltages, the Noctua WILL perform better and not by 1 degree with the same configuration. These voltages are not even pumped up on the testing. The user needs to buy higher CFM fans to compete with the Noctua D 14 making it(D14) a better "bang for the buck".
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    If I wanna go into Custom liquid cooling,I would not just want a cpu hsf,I will want custom heatsinks for all my GPU,that will cost a bomb,my girlfriend sees my LC rig,she would want one,then I will be broke as a jokeNevermind,I will stick more simple solutions,perhaps Corsair H70?I still prefer the idea of a tri fan push/pull cooler

    Impatient one(hehehehehehehe).... Get the hardware little by little. Cool the CPU and a month or 2 get your GPU blocks. BTW, get control of the girlfriend now. After marriage it is too late!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Impatient one(hehehehehehehe).... Get the harware little by little. Cool the CPU and a month or 2 get your GPU blocks. BTW, get control of the girlfriend now. After marriage it is too late!

    Thats an understatement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    I think most of us understand about CFM's/ The term you used is likely. At higher voltages, the Noctua WILL perform better and not by 1 degree with the same configuration. These voltages are not even pumped up on the testing. The user needs to buy higher CFM fans to compete with the Noctua D 14 making it(D14) a better "bang for the buck".
    What higher voltages? Do you mean higher voltage on the factory fans that come with the Noctua or aftermarket fans? The factory fans were tested at the highest possible voltage. At that setting, they are comparable to the CM V6 GT at 2200 rpm. This is a fact.

    What higher CFM fans needed on the CM V6 GT? The maximum CFM of the CM V6 GT is overall slightly lower than that of the Noctua D14, and yet it performs comparably. Again, I will reiterate - the advantage of the Noctua is not top end performance as the CM V6 GT reaches similar levels. It is instead top end performance while remaining quiet while the V6 GT gets much louder in comparison while maintaining equal performance. This is also a fact.

    Now, if you're talking aftermarket fans, yes with screaming loud 250 CFM Delta fans the Noctua might perform better. However, the Noctua was designed with lower speed fans in mind. I'm not sure if the turbulence created by 250 CFM fans would do much, due to the design of the fins on the Noctua. Engineering does play a role here, not just voltages and maximum CFM.

    Also, I personally hate loud fans. I prefer my system to stay as silent as possible. I would never ever have bought the CM V6 GT and run it at 2200 rpm. If I needed the performance it put out that speed, however, I would prefer the quietness of the Noctua to the CM V6 GT.

    However, in terms of bang for the buck, from reputable resellers, after tax and shipping:
    Noctua DH14 - $85 from Amazon
    CM V6 GT - $63 from eWiz.com

    That $22 difference can get you two more 120mm fans. That money would let you run a Scythe Mugen 2 with a four fan double push-pull combo and get equivalent performance for less money. So, I respectfully disagree that the Noctua is the "best bang for the buck".
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    Quote Originally Posted by eido.cohen View Post
    What higher voltages? Do you mean higher voltage on the factory fans that come with the Noctua or aftermarket fans? The factory fans were tested at the highest possible voltage. At that setting, they are comparable to the CM V6 GT at 2200 rpm. This is a fact.

    What higher CFM fans needed on the CM V6 GT? The maximum CFM of the CM V6 GT is overall slightly lower than that of the Noctua D14, and yet it performs comparably. Again, I will reiterate - the advantage of the Noctua is not top end performance as the CM V6 GT reaches similar levels. It is instead top end performance while remaining quiet while the V6 GT gets much louder in comparison.

    Now, if you're talking aftermarket fans, yes with screaming loud 250 CFM Delta fans the Noctua might perform better. However, the Noctua was designed with lower speed fans in mind. I'm not sure if the turbulence created by 250 CFM fans would do much, due to the design of the fins on the Noctua. Engineering does play a role here, not just voltages and maximum CFM.

    Also, I personally hate loud fans. I prefer my system to stay as silent as possible. I would never ever have bought the CM V6 GT and run it at 2200 rpm. If I needed the performance it put out that speed, however, I would prefer the quietness of the Noctua to the CM V6 GT.

    However, in terms of bang for the buck, from reputable resellers, after tax and shipping:
    Noctua DH14 - $85 from Amazon
    CM V6 GT - $63 from eWiz.com

    That $22 difference can get you two more 120mm fans. That money would let you run a Scythe Mugen 2 with a four fan double push-pull combo and get equivalent performance for less money. So, I respectfully disagree that the Noctua is the "best bang for the buck".

    Sometimes I hate getting Lured into your little spats. The test was not done with the processor at higher voltage. That is where it D14 will shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIPPER View Post
    Thats an understatement.
    I was engaged to be married in the past; the wedding was supposed to be around two years ago in August. I am sooooo glad that this did not happen in the end... I think it would have been a disaster. So I can totally relate to this...

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