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    What do you guys think of these 2 bay dual loop reservoirs, and the pumps that mount on them?

    I'm most interested in this one for the looks, and the front panel fill ports.
    I believe the pumps that mount on it are rebranded Laing D5 pumps.

    http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roduct_id=2025




    The 2nd one doesn't look as nice, and doesn't have fill ports on the front, but it does cost a lot less, and is made for Laing DDC pumps to mount on it.

    http://www.xspc.biz/ddcdualbayrestwo.php


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    I like the first choice.

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    Ohh, looks like they have a version for DDC pumps too!
    http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roduct_id=2032

    I guess the question now is, DDC pumps, or D5 pumps?
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    no the question is what you are going to cool that you need two loops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    no the question is what you are going to cool that you need two loops?
    I did mention that too him in another thread(think it was Caleal...). His hardware only needs 1 loop and his cooling choices would handle it no problem. 2 loops is a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    I did mention that too him in another thread(think it was Caleal...). His hardware only needs 1 loop and his cooling choices would handle it no problem. 2 loops is a waste.
    I don't think it was me you said something to, but even so, since when did "need" have anything to do with any of this stuff anyway?

    One loop will be for the CPU only, the other for the graphics card, with possibly a 2nd card added later this year, mootherboard cooling and ram cooling.

    I realize my motherboard and ram don't "need" liquid cooling from a technical standpoint, but it can be done, so it will be done.

    I do welcome any and all advice as to what setups and products give the best performance, are the best quality, etc., and very much appreciate the information available on this forum, and the help you guys give, but if I see any more of this discoraging talk about things that can be done not "needing" to be done, I'm gonna have to check some man cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caleal View Post
    I don't think it was me you said something to, but even so, since when did "need" have anything to do with any of this stuff anyway?

    One loop will be for the CPU only, the other for the graphics card, with possibly a 2nd card added later this year, mootherboard cooling and ram cooling.

    I realize my motherboard and ram don't "need" liquid cooling from a technical standpoint, but it can be done, so it will be done.

    I do welcome any and all advice as to what setups and products give the best performance, are the best quality, etc., and very much appreciate the information available on this forum, and the help you guys give, but if I see any more of this discoraging talk about things that can be done not "needing" to be done, I'm gonna have to check some man cards.

    Ahhh, sry. Some the other day was asking about 2 loops. The brain is deteriorating(shaddup Duff!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Ahhh, sry. Some the other day was asking about 2 loops. The brain is deteriorating(shaddup Duff!).

    LMFAO I'm glad you said that now I don't need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caleal View Post
    I don't think it was me you said something to, but even so, since when did "need" have anything to do with any of this stuff anyway?

    One loop will be for the CPU only, the other for the graphics card, with possibly a 2nd card added later this year, mootherboard cooling and ram cooling.

    I realize my motherboard and ram don't "need" liquid cooling from a technical standpoint, but it can be done, so it will be done.

    I do welcome any and all advice as to what setups and products give the best performance, are the best quality, etc., and very much appreciate the information available on this forum, and the help you guys give, but if I see any more of this discoraging talk about things that can be done not "needing" to be done, I'm gonna have to check some man cards.
    Yes, it does.

    I notice that you are all ready have Corsair H70 water cooler. You thought it can handle your overclocked 950 or you won't start thinking of switching over custom water cooling setup.

    You didn't mention anything what componnent you are planning to liquid cooled it. You just post pictures of dual-loop reservoir and asking which one is the best to get. Just don't want you to make the same noob mistake again because your are about getting addict to H20 stuff. When you have started no turnning back .

    Of course you can watercooled everything in your rig no body is going to stop you. It's your money.

    I also notice you have Corsair 600T midtower case. Have you thought about what size of rad and where you're going to install the rads, internal or external?

    I consulted with another member and his budget for water cooling was $200 project. Now it's triple of what he was planning to spend and it didn't even including a new case that he's going to get and the rest of cooling gears for his second loop.

    I guess the question now is, DDC pumps, or D5 pumps?
    It's depend on what and number of block you're going to get.
    DDC = high head pressure
    D5 = extreme high flow

    What do you guys think of these 2 bay dual loop reservoirs, and the pumps that mount on them?

    I'm most interested in this one for the looks, and the front panel fill ports.
    I believe the pumps that mount on it are rebranded Laing D5 pumps.

    The 2nd one doesn't look as nice, and doesn't have fill ports on the front, but it does cost a lot less, and is made for Laing DDC pumps to mount on it.
    Both res designed to serve as dual loop setup but Koolance res can be converted as one res.

    Koolance: more sofiticate features and expensive materials used, the front bezel is milled from 1/2" thick aluminum, brass port plugs, chromed pump cover.

    XSPC: 1mm front bezel, plastic port plugs.

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    Thanks Deton.

    I figure the total project will come in around the $800US range when it is all done, more if I get crazy with controllers.
    I have a large tax refund coming middle to late February, so the cost isn't a big issue.

    The 600T case will definitely accept a 120x240 radiator in the top with no modification whatsoever, and at most would need a small modification to mount the Phobya 200x200 radiator in the top.
    It will take the Phobya 200x200 radiator and a fan in the front with a very simple modificaton to the hard drive tower location.
    I had already figured that out from measurements, and it was confirmed when I saw some pictures on another forum of someones dual loop build in a 600T case.

    I plan on doing it in 2 phases, with the CPU loop being the first phase since it involves the least complexity with fittings and tubing.
    The 2nd phase will require a complete tear down of my rig, since I'll need to get all of the existing heat sinks off the motherboard, and do the case modifications.
    Conveniently I have a week of vacation time I need to burn in the middle of march, so the timing works out great.

    The more I look at the Koolance res, the more I like it, so unless there is some sort of problem inherent to that type of setup, it is what I will be going with. It certainly looks like a very high quality piece.

    As for the pump question, I don't think I really need super high head pressure, or super high flow.
    I guess the question boils down to which pump is easier to control, and makes the least noise when it is run at less than maximum speed.
    Any potential reliability differences between DDC and D5 pumps are a very important consideration to me too.

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    were you the one was asking me about 200mm rad?

    If I were you I would do the hardest part first; for example if you are going to use the front rad as for your GPU loop then do it first, do the modding now then install the rad, setup with one GPU for now. Then you can add on the second GPU block later on without rip the case apart to put in the rad. Because you have no problem to install the top radiator.

    So when the time to do the CPU&MOBO loop all you have to do is remove the graphics card without raining its system, remove the mobo all blocks, and the top rad.

    Trust me it's no fun to tear down a completed water cooling and redo it pretty PITA!

    If you have your heart set on DDC pump then go with Swiftech new 35X pump. It's kick-ass pump, PWM and dead silent at its max speed too but there's one catch, it's not cheap. It's cost about $110 a pop.

    Wow, with pumps and res that you are going to get cost alone $350 ....I've warnned you didn't I?

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    Ok, those pumps sound like they may be just the kind of thing I was hoping for.
    I checked out a couple of review, and it looks like they are exactly the kind of thing I'm after.

    The one for the CPU loop can be PWM controlled by the motherboard based on CPU temp.

    The one for the GPU + everything else loop can can be controlled by the PWM fan control on the video card. The Asus utility for the video card has GPU fan control options that allow the user to determine what speed the fan, or in this case the pump, runs based on the GPU temperature. Both the "fan" speed % and GPU temps are adjustable, in 4 steps.

    Something like that would allow me to set them up so that they automatically are running silent when the load is light, and ramp up as the load increases.

    EXACTLY what I am wanting.

    As for the cost, they are very significantly more expensive than regular pumps, but they are also very significantly less expensive than regular pumps + an add on control system that would be a lot of hassle to set up and get working the way I want.

    Thank you for pointing them out. Now I just need to confirm that they will actually work with the reservoir. I may even reconsider my reservoir options if they will not fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caleal View Post
    Thank you for pointing them out. Now I just need to confirm that they will actually fit the reservoir.
    the 35x has the same footprint measurement as the old MCP300 series, all you have to do is remove the top housing.

    Edit: on the second thought, just check the measurement with Koolance 400 pump or just shoot them an email and asking them about it to make sure.

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    It is confirmed that the 35x pumps will work with it, so that is now officially my plan.

    That brings it up to around $320 + shipping for the res and 2 pumps.

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    You will be happy with this components.

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    Now to decide if I want to set it up like this:



    Or like this:



    No dyes would be used, so it is only a question of performance.
    Probably something i'll have to test each way.

    The first one is interesting because nothing I do that is a heavy load on the CPU loads the GPU up at all, and nothing I do that loads the GPU up loads the CPU by more than around 15% sustained, with spikes for a few minutes at a time up to 20-30%.

    It would allow the loop with the lighter heat load to assist the loop with the higher heat load with cooling the water.

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