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    Hey guys,

    First time poster, long time lurker and had a few questions.

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    I am interested in making my own custom loop as my temps at 4.2 are just unnacceptable ~73 c 100% load.

    I've done a bit of reading through some of the stickies here, as well as other sites and just wanted to run some parts by everyone for some advice.

    I was looking at :

    Heatkiller Rev 3.0 1366 CPU Liquid Cooling Block - (14015)

    Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator - Black
    Swiftech MCP655-B 12v Water Pump w/ 3/8" Conversion Kit (317 GPH)
    Bitspower 5.25 Bay Reservoir - Acrylic - UV Blue Seals (BP-WT525AC-CLUVBL)

    I was planning on mounting the rad externally on the back of my 1200 with an airbox to take advantage of those high cfm fans, but my question is will this be enough to keep a 580 and my 950 cool? I did some math according to the sticky regarding wattage/rad size and im coming in at around 500 w with overhead included, so since the xtreme rad is significantly deeper than the original, will it compensate for the ~70 w. I am open to other suggestions as well regarding hardware, kind of new to custom waterloops so any suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

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    hollow

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    Welcome Hallow!!!!!!73 is VERY acceptable at full load BTW. I have 2 custom water setups. The Black Ice rad is real good but I am impartial to Thermalchill TA120.3. I own both the Heatkiller 3.0 and the Apogee XT. The Apogee XT gets a degree or 2 better than the heatkiller on my i7 930 with the same rad BTW. Deton can answer your question on the 580 and your 950. I say your good to go. I cooled 2 x 4890's and a i7 930 with no problems with a 120.3 rad.

    Check out the Koolance 370 Deton just did a review on. It looks like it beats the Apogee XT by a bit....

    http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1296

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    welcome aboard!

    Custom watercooling is a expensive method because you will become an addict when you feet got wet.

    Here are the top dogs CPU blocks in term of thermal performance (in my book);
    1) Koolance CPU-370
    2) Aquacomputer Kryos
    3) EK Supreme HF, Swiftech Apogree XT R2
    4) Koolance CPU-360
    5) XSPC Rasa

    Heatkiller is an old dog, it is two years overdue for upgrading. The competitions are passing by.

    A single fat triple rad is capable to cool CPU+GPU (950+580).

    Black Ice is good rad but it performs best at high RPM fan. I do see you pick Delta fans (short one). However, to maximize its performance you need to crank those fans over 2000rpm. They will be pretty loud since you have it external mount. BTW, I think FrozenCPU is a little overprized, check Performance-PCs.

    Thermolchill TA is a good rad as well but still expensive unless you get it on sales (imo). XSPC RX360 is the best band for the buck in 60mm thick class or Swiftech MCR-320 is the best value performance rad.

    If you have to go with Black Ice the I would suggest you to get the SR-1 version, it designs for low fan. You can run the fans from 1200-1500rpm and they are quiet as church mouse. .

    If you choose MCP-655B then why not the MCP655 (adjustable speed)? and it's more powerful than B version. However, I would suggest you to go with MCP-X35...this is kick ass pump, small foot print, PWR and quiet as church mouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    welcome aboard!

    Custom watercooling is a expensive method because you will become an addict when you feet got wet.

    Here are the top dogs CPU blocks in term of thermal performance (in my book);
    1) Koolance CPU-370
    2) Aquacomputer Kryos
    3) EK Supreme HF, Swiftech Apogree XT R2
    4) Koolance CPU-360
    5) XSPC Rasa

    Heatkiller is an old dog, it is two years overdue for upgrading. The competitions are passing by.

    A single fat triple rad is capable to cool CPU+GPU (950+580).

    Black Ice is good rad but it performs best at high RPM fan. I do see you pick Delta fans (short one). However, to maximize its performance you need to crank those fans over 2000rpm. They will be pretty loud since you have it external mount. BTW, I think FrozenCPU is a little overprized, check Performance-PCs.

    Thermolchill TA is a good rad as well but still expensive unless you get it on sales (imo). XSPC RX360 is the best band for the buck in 60mm thick class or Swiftech MCR-320 is the best value performance rad.

    If you have to go with Black Ice the I would suggest you to get the SR-1 version, it designs for low fan. You can run the fans from 1200-1500rpm and they are quiet as church mouse. .

    If you choose MCP-655B then why not the MCP655 (adjustable speed)? and it's more powerful than B version. However, I would suggest you to go with MCP-X35...this is kick ass pump, small foot print, PWR and quiet as church mouse

    The Zen master speaks!

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    You guys freaking rule. But yeah i know I'm already past the 'scratchin o' the neck phase' as far as upgrading goes. I'm definitely going to take a look around but I was just shootin for a ballpark on what i was looking at.


    ps. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-001-_-Product

    those are the fans i have if it makes any difference.


    Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhollowpointx View Post
    You guys freaking rule. But yeah i know I'm already past the 'scratchin o' the neck phase' as far as upgrading goes. I'm definitely going to take a look around but I was just shootin for a ballpark on what i was looking at.


    ps. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-001-_-Product

    those are the fans i have if it makes any difference.


    Thanks again!

    Those fans will sound like a jet. Go for the Ultra Kaze 3000RPM 130CFM fans. Much cheaper and those Deltas are over priced IMO.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185054

    $12.99


    Heck, you can buy 6 and run them in push and pull and be cheaper. 3 Ultra Kazes cool wonderful. I run a Thermalchill TA 120.3 like mentioned and run 3 x Ultra Kazes and hit 80 degrees at 1.42V on my i7 930 at 4.5Ghz under load..... With 2 GPU's.....Deltas would not cool any better IMO. Overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    The Zen master speaks!
    Yes my son....back for more

    I never own the Delta but I do experienced from Coolit Freezone Elite review. It has Delta fan on it and it's loud.

    I do own 3 Ultra Krazes on Feser 360 rad with a fan controller. Most of the time I keep them at 1200rpm, I only crank them up when I do testing.

    Indeed, Delta fans are good but you will go deaf with three fans at full speed or even at 1800rpm. TBH, I don't have a stomach for $29 a fan. That's a lot of money when you pair them with a $120 rad. Just rad & fans will set you back at $210, this is why I said watercooling could be very expensive.

    BTW, the Ultra Kraze only cost around $9.05 each. The Egg or PPCS is overpriced.
    http://www.ncixus.com/products/26744...H-3000/Scythe/ This is Canadian etailer, shop around for US base to avoid shipping cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Yes my son....back for more

    I never own the Delta but I do experienced from Coolit Freezone Elite review. It has Delta fan on it and it's loud.

    I do own 3 Ultra Krazes on Feser 360 rad with a fan controller. Most of the time I keep them at 1200rpm, I only crank them up when I do testing.

    Indeed, Delta fans are good but you will go deaf with three fans at full speed or even at 1800rpm. TBH, I don't have a stomach for $29 a fan. That's a lot of money when you pair them with a $120 rad. Just rad & fans will set you back at $210, this is why I said watercooling could be very expensive.

    BTW, the Ultra Kraze only cost around $9.05 each. The Egg or PPCS is overpriced.
    http://www.ncixus.com/products/26744...H-3000/Scythe/ This is Canadian etailer, shop around for US base to avoid shipping cost.


    Nice find on the "Krazes"... its Kazes.....

    250CFM's won't cool any better than 130CFM'S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Nice find on the "Krazes"... its Kazes.....

    250CFM's won't cool any better than 130CFM'S
    that's how we canadian calls.....lol...actually just me...hey it was 6am...didn't have caffeine in me yet.

    damn you....just wait for the opportunity to kick my groin don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    that's how we canadian calls.....lol...actually just me...hey it was 6am...didn't have caffeine in me yet.

    damn you....just wait for the opportunity to kick my groin don't you?
    YUP Cranuck....lol.....

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    Ha, yeah my rig is nick'd the boeing cause of those deltas. This is all tentative for a few months down the road, but thanks for the excellent input. Yeah the deltas are ridiculously loud I picked them up about a year ago when I knew about 10% of what I know now and was just tired of the lackluster corsair fans it came with. I'm sure ill be tapping your craniums for some more knowledge down the line. Thanks again, much appreciated.

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