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    Default Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Hey All,

    I just want to see what you all think on a situation I have.

    Here is the current set-up - Trying not to change pumps unless I really Have to.

    XSPC X20 750 Pump/Res > XSPC EX360 Rad > Swiftech Apogee HD (Black) -
    I really want to add my 6950s back into the loop but using the Koolance VIR-697 Version 1.1 blocks.

    Do you think the pump will be able to handle the EX360, Apogee HD and 2x koolance blocks??
    I am running 1/2" ID tubing on the set-up now..

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    x20 750 is equivalent to MCP655 at speed #3, it doesn't have high head pressure to do multiple blocks setup. Hey, it doesn't hurt to do the experiment with the new setup, if you get bad result then you do pump replacement.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    x20 750 is equivalent to MCP655 at speed #3, it doesn't have high head pressure to do multiple blocks setup. Hey, it doesn't hurt to do the experiment with the new setup, if you get bad result then you do pump replacement.
    Yea, I thought about adding it in and see what happens. But doesn't hurt to ask here first since I've got allot of info already from here when I did my new builds.
    I've asked this question before but for a completely diff set-up.

    I know that the Apogee HD block is less restrictive compared to the older Rev. 2 XT block and Koolance blocks are not as restrictive as the komodo Blocks that I previously had.

    I've gone from using the Komodo Blocks to EK and now Koolance on the same video cards.. I was not happy with the Komodo and EK blocks with these cards. So hoping koolance doesn't dissappoint. Also I was using the MCP35 pump with the XSPC top before in another PC.. But Pump is now dead.... I just want to add these cards into my loop that is using the X20 pump...

    I've read mixed reviews online, some say its ok.. some no and some praise it..
    So its hard to tell what will work at this point.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    If you don't like your results you could add a pump rather than change it. Adding even something like a d5 would be OK as far as pumping is concerned (even if a bit big to find a home for)
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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    I do not think it is a good idea to add a third pump with different water flow rate. If he is going to do that perhaps 1 x D5 may be sufficient?

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    So I've been trying to think of a ideal of putting my Video cards on a diff loop. Let me know what you guys think of this set-up.
    Just playing around with ideals before I do anything else to this rig.

    This is all going in a 800D Case so space and organization is a big issue for me. I want to keep it clean but also cool great!

    CPU Loop: Listed above (already in system)
    XSPC X20 750 > EX360 Rad > Swiftech Apogee HD - Using 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing.

    GPU Loop: **The Ideal**
    XSPC X20 200 > Swiftech MCR120-QP > 2x Koolance Blocks for HD6950 > using 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Tubing

    Do you guys think that the GPU loop is sufficient??? I am not OCing the GPUs. I just want to keep temps down from the high 80's I have been getting while gaming.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    So I've been trying to think of a ideal of putting my Video cards on a diff loop. Let me know what you guys think of this set-up.
    Just playing around with ideals before I do anything else to this rig.

    This is all going in a 800D Case so space and organization is a big issue for me. I want to keep it clean but also cool great!

    CPU Loop: Listed above (already in system)
    XSPC X20 750 > EX360 Rad > Swiftech Apogee HD - Using 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing.

    GPU Loop: **The Ideal**
    XSPC X20 200 > Swiftech MCR120-QP > 2x Koolance Blocks for HD6950 > using 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Tubing

    Do you guys think that the GPU loop is sufficient??? I am not OCing the GPUs. I just want to keep temps down from the high 80's I have been getting while gaming.
    What exactly is the total Rad count you have?

    Would go #1 loop with either MCP355 series or D-5 pump depending on number of rads.

    Also 3/8"id tubing would be my choice as to clutter and proven just as efficient as any thing larger.
    Easier to work with and also had tried both.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    I have a total of 1 EX360 installed right now.
    I have a extra MCR120-QP that I pulled from a OLD PC I had.

    My buddy has a XSPC X20 200 Pump/Res that hes not using and he was going to give me.
    which is why the ideal came up.

    I originally was going to use my MCP355 pump to power the entire loop, but the pump died. Which is why I am playing around with ideals right now. Don't want to spend money on another pump unless I have too. Trying to use parts I have at home already. I was thinking of just getting a whole new pump and res, but that about $120.00 by the time I am done.. Where as if I use the parts I have now its just a matter of installing, but I want to make sure its efficient.. I've never done a dual loop before..

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    I have a total of 1 EX360 installed right now.
    I have a extra MCR120-QP.

    My buddy has a XSPC X20 200 Pump/Res that hes not using and he was going to give me.
    which is why the ideal came up.

    I originally was going to use my MCP355 pump to power the entire loop, but the pump died. Which is why I am playing around with ideals right now. Don't want to spend money on another pump unless I have too. Trying to use parts I have at home already. I was thinking of just getting a whole new pump and res, but that about $120.00 by the time I am done.. Where as if I use the parts I have now its just a matter of installing, but I want to make sure its efficient.. I've never done a dual loop before..
    I lost a MCP355 pump also and Gabe replaced it real quick.
    Had it for six months and still warranteed it.
    Good company.

    Very strong pump with good head pressure.
    Cure is to mount the pump so it disapates the back heat as was told by them.
    Works great now and runs cool, Problem for failures.

    I'd add a 240 to the 360 if possible in one loop.

    JMO

    Later

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    you don't need to add a 120 to your existing setup. If I remember correctly, I've mentioned to you just try out with the X20 750 pump to see how bad the temps are.

    I used to have the following setup; Q9650 @ 4.1MHz, CF 4870 also OCed, cooled by MCR-320, Apogee GTZ, MCP-350. The temps were only 1C delta when two GPUs added.

    So, go with one loop, save all the hassle of setup.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Unfortunatly my pump is out of warranty which is why I am trying to not buy another pump. I've done quite a few upgrades again in the last month and wife is not happy that I am spending money that I didn't really need to. In her opinion at least, LMAO.. But I am trying to keep cost down.

    I orginally had the pump mounted to a XSPC top and fan blowing directly to the bottom of the pump. But it still went out. but worked for the time I had it.. I bought a XSPC DDC Res for the pump but never got a chance to use it. Plan was to change it into the res to help with heat dissapation.

    I think I try and run the XSPC X20 750 with the the 3 blocks and 1 360 rad and see what happens.

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    Default Re: Water Pump Strong Enough?

    Not meaning to bust anyone's bubble here, but those XSPC pump/res combos are pure junk.

    There is a reason why Gary (SidewinderComputers) doesn't carry them anymore...

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