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    Default Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    after spending the day reading reviews of air coolers for an x79 system w/3930k, i have finally admitted defeat: a once proud air-only/hsf kinda guy needs advice, re water setup. not going for 24/7 5ghz+ (but would like a cool 4.5, without resorting to speedstep/c states, etc.). those raza kits look neat for the price, but i've had pumps fail in the past, and am now gun-shy of 'cheap' WC solutions. looking at a lian li mid tower to stuff everything into. what to get (water just for the cpu)?

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    If you want a closed loop the Antec Kuhler 920 is like the best on the market.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    Bull it is, the ASETEK 570LX with a 240 Rad works great if you want to go with a self contained unit, I have one cooling a Sandy Bridge-E 3930K with 4 fans set up in a push pull configuration, if your interested in something like this I can hook you up with my friend at ASETEK.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    If you plan on going custom loop:

    You can piece something together for a pretty good price.. If you just plan on just cooling the CPU you have allot of options..
    The Apogee HD block is real nice. Also the Koolance CPU blocks are nice...

    Pumps, I really like the MCP655 with the manual speed. I own 3 of these pumps in 2 diff rigs and they have been great to me..
    I also have a MCP355 in my wifes rig and works great. They have heat issues when used by itself. But I have mine installed in a XSPC bay Res and it helps keep it cool. DO NOT use it with the Anti -Vibration Foam, It has know to cause issues..

    XSPC makes good rad, size will depend on the case you use..HW Labs also makes good rad for a good price... Swiftech isn't to bad for the price either. XSPC has been the best for me.. on my X79 build I am using 2x EX480 and 1x EX360. My wifes rig has 1x EX240 and 1x EX120 with Apogee HD block with GTX470 and Denger Den Block. She rig has been running great since i water cooled it.. before it had heat issues due to her OC.

    Or some really good closed loops systems are good also...
    Antec 920 is one the the asetek coolers are real nice also...

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    Listen to Stan, the ASETEK 570LX is top dog and is quality built.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by m.oreilly View Post
    after spending the day reading reviews of air coolers for an x79 system w/3930k, i have finally admitted defeat: a once proud air-only/hsf kinda guy needs advice, re water setup. not going for 24/7 5ghz+ (but would like a cool 4.5, without resorting to speedstep/c states, etc.). those raza kits look neat for the price, but i've had pumps fail in the past, and am now gun-shy of 'cheap' WC solutions. looking at a lian li mid tower to stuff everything into. what to get (water just for the cpu)?
    Before I give you my two cents, please answer the following questions;

    1) what is your budget?
    2) what case are you doing to use?
    3) are you only going to cool a cpu or planning to expand it in the future?

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    I run the 3930K on the X79 platform and use the Raza waterblock with a custom setup. I use the Raza waterblock cause it was simple to mod for the X79 motheboard. I had some 40mm hex head bolts and they were the perfect length. Remember, there is no backplate needed for the X79 motherboards.

    That said, custom water is the way to go with Sandybridge "E" processors. I run a Thermalchill TA 12.03, MCP655, swiftech Microres along with the Raza. I can push it to 1.6 volts but cannot get 5GHz stable. 4.9GHz is all I could get. At 1.6V I get around 70 for my load temps which is great. A all in one will not get those temps....

    With good air like the Noctua D-14, you should be able to get 4.4 or 4.5Ghz. I just got 4.3GHz at 78 degrees with a DeepCool Frostwin I just got done revieing and it does not have a lot of mass. The D-14 will cool better and surely get 200MHz more but at a sacrifice. The dimms will be blocked due to the size of the D-14 if you use modules with large heat spreaders.

    A all in one probably will not get 5GHz due to the voltage constraints of SandyBridge "E" processors unless you get a binned chip.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    thanks for the replies!
    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Before I give you my two cents, please answer the following questions;

    1) what is your budget?
    2) what case are you doing to use?
    3) are you only going to cool a cpu or planning to expand it in the future?
    not heck of too much over $200. i had liked the idea of the pump in the rez, a cpu block, some hose and fans re the raza kits...
    this case:
    Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-9F Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    using ssds, so no need for all that front cage, or just use standoffs and stick the rad on the roof
    no expansion, just want to have the cpu happy and cool.

    stan, i'll check out the cooler you mentioned...

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    If it's performance you are after make your own loop. Don't get one of those self contained units. They should be called self restrained units imho.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    I ran the AIDA64 Stress Test for 30 minutes just now. It maxes out the CPU, FPU, Cache, GPU, and Memory, all at the same time.
    This system is a Quad Core i7-870 with 16GB of DDR3-2133MHz. RAM in it. It has one of those "restrained" Water Coolers on it. (a Corsair H50)
    This CPU cooler is bottom of the barrel in performance as "restrained" coolers go, but my maximum temperature after this test, and during the test was 54c.
    My only modification to it was to add two high flow/low noise fans to the radiator to replace the one stock fan that came with the cooler.




    I realize that a home built water cooling system does a better job than a factory setup does.

    But there is nothing wrong with this at all. It's been in place for two years so far and never needed ~any~ maintenance, other than blowing the dust out of the radiator.

    The Cooler that Stan mentioned is made by Asetek, the people who built the very first enclosed coolers, and they build ~most~ of the 'name brand' enclosed coolers you see for sale today. Their quality is unsurpassed.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    My "restrained" closed loop Kuhler 920 keeps my 4.5GHz 980 below 75C, only mod is quieter fans, although if you don't mind noise the stock ones are better. Like Neil said you will certainly will get better cooling with a custom loop but it will require quite a bit of maintenance and thinking, a closed loop requires none.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    Tony, I'm pretty sure Mike will only be cooling his 3930K which is why I suggested the 570LX , it's cheaper than the other 240 units out there, and does a better job cooling with the right fans.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    I tried getting one for review, but they shipped me this instead, their new water cooling test bench

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    they are getting hard to find. frozencpu is out of stock now. i'm hoping performancepcs still have them in stock toward the end of the week.

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    Default Re: Ok! i give in! W/C for x79 help needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I ran the AIDA64 Stress Test for 30 minutes just now. It maxes out the CPU, FPU, Cache, GPU, and Memory, all at the same time.
    This system is a Quad Core i7-870 with 16GB of DDR3-2133MHz. RAM in it. It has one of those "restrained" Water Coolers on it. (a Corsair H50)
    This CPU cooler is bottom of the barrel in performance as "restrained" coolers go, but my maximum temperature after this test, and during the test was 54c.
    My only modification to it was to add two high flow/low noise fans to the radiator to replace the one stock fan that came with the cooler.




    I realize that a home built water cooling system does a better job than a factory setup does.

    But there is nothing wrong with this at all. It's been in place for two years so far and never needed ~any~ maintenance, other than blowing the dust out of the radiator.

    The Cooler that Stan mentioned is made by Asetek, the people who built the very first enclosed coolers, and they build ~most~ of the 'name brand' enclosed coolers you see for sale today. Their quality is unsurpassed.
    Aida does not fully stress sytem Neil. Use LinX at 25,000 problems and 20 passes. FYI

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