advice help build of new liquid cooling system

[vegasluna]

i built the following pc:

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition
CORSAIR H100 Liquid CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8G DDR3 2133
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Intel Motherboard
Crucial M4 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drives Raid 0
2x SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 CrossFireX Video Cards x16/x16
COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition Tower Case
COOLER MASTER 1200W CrossFire Ready Power Supply

that is the basics of it and it cost me alot. i want to protect this investment. as you can see it has a corsair water cooler. i want to replace that corsair water cooler because i am actually scared of it. so far it works well and is mounted at the top inside of the case where there are additional fans. i am scared of this cooler from horror stories of them leaking and these have distilled water. i would prefer running a non-conductive coolant in my coolers thus i am about to try to build a water cooler for this machine.

i been building pcs a long time but this is my first water cooled machine just because i am scared of running water in my pc .. so i need to find some advice on building a good water cooling system. i already have a couple big bottles of feser green non-conductive coolant. now i need to design a water cooler system and know where to purchase my hardware for this because i buy all my pc hardware at newegg and i do not think they stock what is needed .

i will post what i am thinking of a design but i really would like some expert help from you guys if possible. also i am looking to build a high quality system that i can rely on. i will move this corsair over to my older phenom quad-core desktop .. try to overlook my wimpy vid cards in my new build above i will replace those soon .. thanks everyone .



vegas

[Drdeath]

Rule #1- Do not use dyed coolant. It will gunk up the system.

I believe in the best when it comes to water cooling (Waco). Thermalchill makes one of the best radiators. I would suggest the TA120.3 or TA120.4.

For pump get the Liang MCP655
Waterblock Apogee HD
Res... many choices. If you want small, the Swiftech Micro Res is good.
Tubing: I like Tygon the best


Danger Den V2 waterblock for the 6950's are good and reasonable:




Apogee HD pretty much is one of the best waterblocks...

[vegasluna]

1) what is your budget? i am willing to spend what is needed for a quality water cooling system .
2) what case are you doing to use? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119239
3) are you only going to cool a cpu or planning to expand it in the future? not sure but if i expanded i would use a seperate cooler i think for other devices.








vegas

[vegasluna]

Rule #1- Do not use dyed coolant. It will gunk up the system.

I believe in the best when it comes to water cooling (Waco). Thermalchill makes one of the best radiators. I would suggest the TA120.3 or TA120.4.

For pump get the Liang MCP655
Waterblock Apogee HD
Res... many choices. If you want small, the Swiftech Micro Res is good.
Tubing: I like Tygon the best


Danger Den V2 waterblock for the 6950's are good and reasonable:

are u saying that the feser green coolant is not good ? i was advice that feser was really good would not cause this problems .

is that water block what goes on the cpu ?? if it is it wont work since ram chips are on both sides of the cpu in my x79 build. it will have to be something similiar to the corsair 100 which fits perfectly with no adjustments to motherboard.


vegas

[PoLoMoTo]

are u saying that the feser green coolant is not good ? i was advice that feser was really good would not cause this problems .

is that water block what goes on the cpu ?? if it is it wont work since ram chips are on both sides of the cpu . it will have to be something similiar to the corsair 100 which fits perfectly with no adjustments to motherboard.


vegas

He's not necessary saying its bad but dyed coolants always break down over a period of time and clog up the water blocks and radiators.

A custom loop water block like the one mentioned will likely never interfere with ram, and are designed to fit the specific socket used. (http://www.swiftech.com/apogeehd.aspx pictures of it in a rig.)

[Drdeath]

He's not necessary saying its bad but dyed coolants always break down over a period of time and clog up the water blocks and radiators.

A custom loop water block like the one mentioned will likely never interfere with ram.

Dyed coolants are terrible, they gunk up the blocks and stain the tubing.

[Drdeath]

are u saying that the feser green coolant is not good ? i was advice that feser was really good would not cause this problems .

is that water block what goes on the cpu ?? if it is it wont work since ram chips are on both sides of the cpu in my x79 build. it will have to be something similiar to the corsair 100 which fits perfectly with no adjustments to motherboard.


vegas

The apogee HD fits fine. I run the platform and use the ApogeeXT which is the same size. Any CPU waterblock fits fine with the platform.

NO DYED COOLANT! Use distilled water with PT Nuke. that is all you need. If you prefer, you can add silvercoil inside.

[Drdeath]

There is no adjustments to the board. The X79 has 40mm nuts that the waterblock screws into with not need for a backplate.

[PoLoMoTo]

The apogee HD fits fine. I run the platform and use the ApogeeXT which is the same size. Any CPU waterblock fits fine with the platform.

NO DYED COOLANT! Use distilled water with PT Nuke. that is all you need. If you prefer, you can use silvercoil inside.

Are you sure that is all you need? I have heard that a non-dyed coolant is the way to go.

[Drdeath]

Are you sure that is all you need? I have heard that a non-dyed coolant is the way to go.

Distilled water and coolant cool the same. you heard wong....

[vegasluna]

Are you sure that is all you need? I have heard that a non-dyed coolant is the way to go.

i really do not like the idea of "water" .. is there an anti-conductive coolant that can be used. what is silver coil?

that apogee water block will work on my motherboard and cpu system so i can go with it.. where would i buy it ??

now i notice u meant the Danger Den V2 waterblock is for the video cards .. i will be replacing the vid cards eventually. when u water cool the video cards you have to remove the fans ??


vegas

[PoLoMoTo]

i really do not like the idea of "water" .. is there an anti-conductive coolant that can be used. what is silver coil?

that apogee water block will work on my motherboard and cpu system so i can go with it.. where would i buy it ??

now i notice u meant the Danger Den V2 waterblock is for the video cards .. i will be replacing the vid cards eventually. when u water cool the video cards you have to remove the fans ??


vegas

Understand that all coolants will have water in them but may also have other stuff. Even it you use a "anti-conductive" coolant if it leaks it will likely still short out your mobo. Remember water is not conductive, the stuff in it is so distilled water is pretty safe although it will likely still short your mobo. I think silver coil prevents corrosion and [allows you to use different metals?]. Yes you do have to remove the fans and usually the cards have to be reference cards but not necessarily.

(DrD will probably correct me if I am wrong)

[Drdeath]

Understand that all coolants will have water in them but may also have other stuff. Even it you use a "anti-conductive" coolant if it leaks it will likely still short out your mobo. Remember water is not conductive, the stuff in it is so distilled water is pretty safe although it will likely still short your mobo. I think silver coil prevents corrosion and [allows you to use different metals?]. Yes you do have to remove the fans and usually the cards have to be reference cards but not necessarily.

(DrD will probably correct me if I am wrong)

Distilled water has a slim possibility of shorting your board. I had a major leak one time and no shorting of the board...

PoLo, you need to chill. Water IS CONDUCTIVE due to the metals. Distilling it makes it NON CONDUCTIVE....

[Drdeath]

i really do not like the idea of "water" .. is there an anti-conductive coolant that can be used. what is silver coil?

that apogee water block will work on my motherboard and cpu system so i can go with it.. where would i buy it ??

now i notice u meant the Danger Den V2 waterblock is for the video cards .. i will be replacing the vid cards eventually. when u water cool the video cards you have to remove the fans ??


vegas

Distilled water is NON CONDUCTIVE


Silver coil will totally eliminate corroding. I have run my loop with distilled water and PT Nuke for 3 years with no corrosion. I drain and refil once a year.
Yes the heatsinks need to be removed when installing waterblock.

[Solara2xb]

Jim, has provided some great info, I am using the Apogee HD Block on my X79 system with the Sabertooth board. You won't have problems as Jim mentioned.
The MCP655 pump is also really good, I have 3 of them. If you want to save some space with finding a spot for the pump you can buy a 5.25" Bay Res that you can mount the pump into, The XSPC is a good one and is cheap on price. I have one and works great. Koolance also makes good res that allows for the pump to be mounted but cost a little more then the XSPC ones. There are allot of them out there.

Distilled water works great with silver coil, I personally will NEVER go with colors fluid anymore. Bad experience with dye break down and also staining.
I do use Primochill ICE as my coolant since I have over a dozen bottles but only the clear ones.. Works great and even after 1 year of use and draining I never had any issues. The fluid still looked as clean as day 1.. But if you dont want to spend $15 a bottle of Primochill distilled water works just fine.

[Drdeath]

Jim, has provided some great info, I am using the Apogee HD Block on my X79 system with the Sabertooth board. You won't have problems as Jim mentioned.
The MCP655 pump is also really good, I have 3 of them. If you want to save some space with finding a spot for the pump you can buy a 5.25" Bay Res that you can mount the pump into, The XSPC is a good one and is cheap on price. I have one and works great. Koolance also makes good res that allows for the pump to be mounted but cost a little more then the XSPC ones. There are allot of them out there.

Distilled water works great with silver coil, I personally will NEVER go with colors fluid anymore. Bad experience with dye break down and also staining.
I do use Primochill ICE as my coolant since I have over a dozen bottles but only the clear ones.. Works great and even after 1 year of use and draining I never had any issues. The fluid still looked as clean as day 1.. But if you dont want to spend $15 a bottle of Primochill distilled water works just fine.

Yup a ripoff at $15. Distilled does the same job.