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    Default I don't know where I went wrong

    So had a loop for about a year now,
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    1 RX360
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    Drop and a half of feser anti corrosion + about 3/4 Liter of Distilled Water

    I took it down for a good cleaning about 3 months ago, and everything has been fine until I come home today and my pc is randomly shutting off. So I check, and it was coretemp that shut my pc down. I went ahead and disassembled everything and found this:
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    I'm not entirely sure what happened here, the only metals mixed were nickel and copper according to the specs of the hardware. The quick disconnects after the cpu appear to be corroded shut and I cannot get them undone. The cpu block is pristine, but the video card is a mess. I tried cleaning it up with a bit of vinegar to see if it was corrosion imgur: the simple image sharer , but I dont think it is. Anyone have any suggestions?
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    I've been reading and it looks like this may be an issue with the ek nickel blocks, but I wanted a second opinion. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    EK had a problem with the plating on their waterblocks last year. Go to their website or look for blogs about it.

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    Their response was bull****. They gave like 90 days to exchange the block and insisted they would contact everyone who bought one. Ya right. I would email their service dept.

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    Let's see if I understand you correct. You have the loop for over a year and everything was fine until recently you installed the EK-7970 and put in 1 1/2 drops of Feser anti-corrosion? Now everything fall apart on you after 3 months, right?

    You might have put more than 1 1/2 drops of anti-corrosion. A bottle of 50ml Feser anti-corrosion can mix up to 3 liters of water.

    Is EK block EN nickle plated or just standard plated?

    Yes, EK's nickle plating have some issues with non glycol coolant.

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    Hey Deton,

    Thats correct, I've had the loop since around June, actually used your suggestions for a lot of it . I added the 7970 EN (nickel) and cleared the loop in mid February, ran through as per the breakdown thread on the site, added the same amount of feser anti corr 1-2 drops as I did before and the en water block is now super corroded and corroded the quick disconnects shut that were attached to it. The CPU 370 is pristine however.

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    Just over 1.9 litres as well

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    A lot of people stays away from EK nickle plated blocks, even with EN blocks. I believe EK won't honor the warranty if your coolant is not glycol base. You can try to contact them to see what happen.

    Since your 7970 is flaked so it is better to switch over glycol base coolant. Just thoroughly flush and clean the loop before you do the switch. If you continue using flaked block then the nickle plating will come off again.

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    I had the same issues with EK block with my 6950 a little over 8 months ago.. EK didn't do anything about it.. I ended up just selling to block and getting something else. I now have the Koolance blocks and have no issues with them.
    Ek gave me all kinds of excuses.. So Instead now I just choose NOT to buy ANY of there products.

    Also of my entire loop everything was fine EXCEPT the GPU water block. I still use the CPU and Rad till this day without issues.
    I am also using the PrimoChill ICE (clear) as my fuild. I had used dis-stilled + silvercoil for a while before but I didn't like that the water wasn't at clear as I want it to be.

    PrimoChill ICE has worked for me and I just stick with it.. Plus I bought a case a while back and still have 4-6 bottles laying around.
    They have a good 2-3 year shelf life.

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    Personally, I will never buy EK products. They did not say what kind of coolant before this issue happened. I hope they go out of business. This was all bullcrap

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    Hey Guys,

    First off thanks for helping me with my questions. It's greatly appreciated. Secondly, I'm confused about what I should be using for coolant now. I'm not crazy about using feser because of the whole build up with dyes, I would prefer to keep it clear. I've decided to scrap the ek block because quite frankly I just don't trust it anymore. I have been using the primochill tubing that's antimicrobial + kill coil + a couple of drops of feser base. I haven't been mixing metals or anything like that, so is it safe to say it is just the ek block? The cpu 370 was pristine and showed almost no changes other than some slight build up. Also the feser base is supposedly 50ml for 2 liters of coolant, so I wonder if maybe I didn't use enough of it?

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    I use distilled water and PTNuke with no problems.

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    Distilled water and PT Nuke works fine....But the water is not clear like I like it..

    I use Primochill ICE (clear) - no issues so far, been running it for a little over 9 months on a rig and no issues and also the fluid is clear as the day I put it in..
    A little on the expensive side, but I get more piece of mind.

    I do NOT get dyes for any of my coolant. I've had bad experience with it breaking down really fast and staining my blocks and tubing..

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    Go with a koolance block this time, they stand by their products, no excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhollowpointx View Post
    Hey Guys,

    First off thanks for helping me with my questions. It's greatly appreciated. Secondly, I'm confused about what I should be using for coolant now. I'm not crazy about using feser because of the whole build up with dyes, I would prefer to keep it clear. I've decided to scrap the ek block because quite frankly I just don't rust it anymore. I have been using the primochill tubing that's antimicrobial + kill coil + a couple of drops of feser base. I haven't been mixing metals or anything like that, so is it safe to say it is just the ek block? The cpu 370 was pristine and showed almost no changes other than some slight build up. Also the feser base is supposedly 50ml for 2 liters of coolant, so I wonder if maybe I didn't use enough of it?
    the obvious wasn't the incorrect mixing but it was EK plating issues, perhaps the plating was so thin can't withstand the copper sulfate element. I would mix a bottle of Feser with 3 liters of water, I don't need it to be strong because there are no aluminum in the loop.

    Mayhem UV Clear dye is pretty good, no residue, no build up, it stays under normal lighting and turn into baby blue under UV light.

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    Default Re: I don't know where I went wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by xhollowpointx View Post
    Hey Guys,

    First off thanks for helping me with my questions. It's greatly appreciated. Secondly, I'm confused about what I should be using for coolant now. I'm not crazy about using feser because of the whole build up with dyes, I would prefer to keep it clear. I've decided to scrap the ek block because quite frankly I just don't trust it anymore. I have been using the primochill tubing that's antimicrobial + kill coil + a couple of drops of feser base. I haven't been mixing metals or anything like that, so is it safe to say it is just the ek block? The cpu 370 was pristine and showed almost no changes other than some slight build up. Also the feser base is supposedly 50ml for 2 liters of coolant, so I wonder if maybe I didn't use enough of it?
    Distilled Water and PK Nuke mixed correctly is all have ever used and always crystal clear at tear downs.

    I'd throw the block away along with tubing and start from scratch as to no residual left.
    Wouldn't use Dyes, And colored tubing has the same effect except in Rez's.

    Just tore mine down after 9 months and (Spic Span).
    Changed tubing thickness and had become brittle only reason or would not have
    even bothered.
    Keep it simple.

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