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    Default Best Pump/Res Combo?

    I'd like opinions on which pump/res combo that will fit in either one or two 5.25 bays I should get. The loop will include the follow components: CPU block, NB block, 2 GPU blocks, 1 360 rad, and 1 240 rad. If possible, please provide a link to purchase at Frozen CPU. I will buy from Performance PCs if I must but I had customer service issues there. Frozen CPU is my preferred water cooling vendor. Thanks in advance for the assistance.
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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    Fresh first hand experience (Just 2 months ago) and i cannot recommend the XSPC Twin D5 dual bay res more than anything else. I first bought the Koolance RP452x2 and nearly committed suicide while i used it for 1 month, the darn thing just wouldnt prime regardless of how i tilt my 20kg+ 800D with all the hardware in there, worst Bay Res ever designed, EPIC Fail!

    The moment i installed the XSPC Twin D5 dual bay, it prime and purged all the bubbles out of the loop within 45mins without moving my case an inch. Best part is its so quiet sometimes i am worried its not working. I always wanted a pump that gets mounted in the 5.25 bays to minimize space occupied by 2x D5 pumps and I think only XSPC and Koolance make them

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    Sam, This is what I"m using in the VisionTek build

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Fresh first hand experience (Just 2 months ago) and i cannot recommend the XSPC Twin D5 dual bay res more than anything else. I first bought the Koolance RP452x2 and nearly committed suicide while i used it for 1 month, the darn thing just wouldnt prime regardless of how i tilt my 20kg+ 800D with all the hardware in there, worst Bay Res ever designed, EPIC Fail!

    The moment i installed the XSPC Twin D5 dual bay, it prime and purged all the bubbles out of the loop within 45mins without moving my case an inch. Best part is its so quiet sometimes i am worried its not working. I always wanted a pump that gets mounted in the 5.25 bays to minimize space occupied by 2x D5 pumps and I think only XSPC and Koolance make them

    Here's the link:
    XSPC Twin D5 Dual 5.25" Bay Clear Reservoir - Dual Laing D5 / MCP655 - FrozenCPU.com
    I Agree with Bully here, although I don't have the duel D5 pump XSPC Res, but the single they work great.
    Just don't get the new black version and there's been reports of leaks from the Res. Go with the previous version which is the plexi one. I have 2 of those and they have been flawless till this day. This was the same one I had running my TRI SLI system before.

    I also have the koolance res before and it was the worst res/pump combo I have ever worked with. Took me over 2 days to prime the damn thing. I eventually sold it since it wasn't silent as I wanted and was a pain in my A$$ to prime everytime I need to drain and refill. I sold it and got a EK top for my 2 pumps and used a stand alone res.

    The one that Stan linked is the newer version of the Koolance Res/pump combo. So I am not sure how that one works. Maybe Stan can chime in if he has put it to use already.

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    Why take a chance when you know there's leaks ? I believe it comes with interchangable faceplates, so what the difference, your still taking a chance. The Koolance system is very well made, performs great, chrome on both sides, you can reach the pumps easily to adjust or remove, and it's great looking.

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    I cant speak for performance but if I had to choose based on looks alone the Koolance system would get my vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Why take a chance when you know there's leaks ? I believe it comes with interchangable faceplates, so what the difference, your still taking a chance. The Koolance system is very well made, performs great, chrome on both sides, you can reach the pumps easily to adjust or remove, and it's great looking.
    I was talking about the newer model fo the XSPC Res, but if you stick with the older plexi model you won't have issues. The dual pump model of the newer one has reported no issues, its just the single pump... The Koolance one does look good, but I haven't used the new one, but if you get the older model of the 452x2 you will have a hard time. Rev 1.1 and 1.2 are the ones I am talking about.

    Stan, have you put the new Koolance one in the system yet?? If you have, did you have a hard time with it?? Also how silent is the assembly??
    I looked at that unit before, but with my previous exp. with that model, I just steer cleared of it..

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    No problems with the install, or noise from the pumps. in fact I like it so much that I ordered a 2nd one for my upcoming 900D build which I also ordered today on Amazon for $355 and change, which is a great deal for that case, in fact I might even order a 2nd one seeing as EK is sponsoring my next build

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    Stan
    that's good to know, the only differences I see in flow is the pump placement, the two facing down on the back of the rez with the U shaped connection
    versus the two facing the front and in the rez itself on the other

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    If you're doing a single loop then go with XSPC D5 dual bay res. The leakage Kenny was talking about is the black PVC version, the leakage cause by warped top.

    If you want to do dual loop or redundant with a common res then go with Koolance 452X2, the version Stan posted is the latest, it has better priming/bleeding issues. IMO, Koolance is superior in quality and it has more flexibility to use the res than XSPC Dual D5 res, I don't think this res allow you to do dual loop setup.

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    Thanks guys. Question, do I really need a dual pump or dual loop for the build I have in mind? Will an XSPC res with one D5 vario do the trick?
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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    I really cant say how restrictive your system will be but one pump in my opinion should be fine
    I am running two rads CPU and GPU with really good strong flow with only one pump
    maybe Kenny will chime in here as hes run similar setups to what your planning.

    Plus you can dial them up or down as needed for more or less flow

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    Default Re: Best Pump/Res Combo?

    1 D5 will be more then enough for what your planning for.

    In my old 700D, I was running TRI SLI GTX470, Swiftech XT, 1x 360 and 1x120 rad and flow and temps were fine...

    Right now I have my 800D running the same D5 pump, with 1x360, 1x120, CPU, GPU and flow is fine....

    With 2 GPU and 2Rads, and CPU the D5 will be fine.
    Running 2 pumps has its benefits, but if cost becomes a concern, 1 is more then enough for now.

    Dual loop isn't necessary...

    My AMD Build in the Nzxt 630 I am working on witll be running a D5 pump as well.
    It will push, GPU (EK 6990 Block), CPU (EK LTX AMD Surpreme), EK N/B Block, EK RAM block, 1x360 and 1x240 rad...

    I have the manual pumps which have the speed settings, I will be putting this pump and speed 5

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    Thanks guys. That is good news.
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    In my opinion, XSPC needs to change the style of their dual bay pump / res combos, the face has been the same year after year. The koolance dual bay looks great, and you do not have to run dual pumps. you can run a single pump, and like Tony and I both said, they are very well built. The reason I added the 2nd pump, had to do with in case there was ever a pump failure, at least I know the 2nd pump would still be doing it's job. If your cooling a complete system, with 3 grand just in the chip and two GPUs, you want to make sure everythings protected.

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    A single D5 is sufficient for most setup, dual pump will give you about 2c and you have to evaluate if it's worth $100 or not.
    Dual loop cost double, so why don't you do a single loop/pump if you're not happy with the temp then you can upgrade.

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