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    Default Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    for about 5 months i have been using a thermaltake 2x120 mm radiator on my fx8350@4.7 ghz and never saw temps go above 43c, i have now switched over to a black ice stealth 420, this thing was probably twice the size of my old rad, i ran all new hose (in same order) i even replaced the cheapo AMD thermal paste with arctic silver 5, slapped on some fans in push pull( like the old rad again) and now im seeings temps around 48c full load, WTH is going on?

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Try re-seating the CPU block. Also double check to make sure all the air bubbles have been properly bled out of the loop. What fans are you using if you don't mind me asking, and what pump are you using for this new loop? Also is there anything else in the loop or is it just the CPU?

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mgutierrez33 View Post
    Try re-seating the CPU block. Also double check to make sure all the air bubbles have been properly bled out of the loop. What fans are you using if you don't mind me asking, and what pump are you using for this new loop? Also is there anything else in the loop or is it just the CPU?
    the loop goes ( RES-PUMP-CPU-RADIATOR-RES) i know i should really feed into the radiator first, but from what iv read theres like ~1 difference, the pump is a p400, same pump i had with the smaller rad, i picked up 6 NZXT FN-140's off ebay for like $15, i know there not really mad for radiators, but on my old rad i had some cheapo LED china fans

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    AS5 take a while to cure. also Black Ice Stealth rads have very dense fins. 30 FPI so make sure fans have high static pressure and good speed!
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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Quote Originally Posted by terrelljames91 View Post
    the loop goes ( RES-PUMP-CPU-RADIATOR-RES) i know i should really feed into the radiator first, but from what iv read theres like ~1 difference, the pump is a p400, same pump i had with the smaller rad, i picked up 6 NZXT FN-140's off ebay for like $15, i know there not really mad for radiators, but on my old rad i had some cheapo LED china fans

    even tho i dont water cool it sounds like you should get a bigger pump [as in out-put] its having to pump coolant into a larger rad, also try some noc fans may help anywho back to lurking

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    yes you might wanna look into getting a D5 pump.
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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    I just had same problem with my Gigabyte Geforce GTX670 with a XSPC water block. My temp's were running at 50c at idle. My pump is to small for my CaseLabs TH10 and the loop I have. So until
    I can get a D5pump I have the stock cooler back on my GPU.

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Quote Originally Posted by killjoyjim View Post
    I just had same problem with my Gigabyte Geforce GTX670 with a XSPC water block. My temp's were running at 50c at idle. My pump is to small for my CaseLabs TH10 and the loop I have. So until
    I can get a D5pump I have the stock cooler back on my GPU.
    what pump were you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeBlack View Post
    AS5 take a while to cure. also Black Ice Stealth rads have very dense fins. 30 FPI so make sure fans have high static pressure and good speed!
    Fans have a 1300rpms, I believe it was 52cfm, and a .82 for the pressure, like I said there not the best fans in the world

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeBlack View Post
    what pump were you using?
    My Lang DDC Pump.

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    After looking at the AS5 website o see it could take up to 200 hours to fully cure? Holy cow maybe that is my problem, I also put it on the cpu and used a plastic glove to spread the paste around, I think I'm going to take it a off again, just squeeze a little right in the center of the cpu and 're apply the block and check it in a month before I start looking for a new pump

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    That is definitely the best way to apply paste type tim.

    Like the others have said, you need to ensure that all of the air is out of the rad because an air pocket will defeat even the best of pumps. try ensuring the res is above the rad outlet by moving it during the bleeding phase. Just connect the pump to a supply and if necessary lay the case down but keep the res vertical if it is the tube type.

    close together fins on the rad require high speed high pressure fans to do well.

    From memory the stealth is in the same family as the GTX which can generally be called quite restrictive and require good pump performance, however, the temps you describe seem high for this reason alone to be the cause of your problems as I have found that flow as low as .3 gph is where the threshold for serious temperature fluctuation is found.
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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    Sounds like something isn't seated flush to the contact suface. Try redoing that.
    Then, get some Cougar Vortex PWM fans for it. They have the static pressure and airflow to deal with any radiator.
    Show us a few pictures of your setup. (all angles) Pictures will sometimes help us to spot possible problems with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrelljames91 View Post
    Fans have a 1300rpms, I believe it was 52cfm, and a .82 for the pressure, like I said there not the best fans in the world
    Way to low static pressure (0.82mm/h2o), for this rad (30FPi), you'll need at least 1.5 mm/h20 static pressure to air get thru this rad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    That is definitely the best way to apply paste type tim.

    Like the others have said, you need to ensure that all of the air is out of the rad because an air pocket will defeat even the best of pumps. try ensuring the res is above the rad outlet by moving it during the bleeding phase. Just connect the pump to a supply and if necessary lay the case down but keep the res vertical if it is the tube type.

    close together fins on the rad require high speed high pressure fans to do well.

    From memory the stealth is in the same family as the GTX which can generally be called quite restrictive and require good pump performance, however, the temps you describe seem high for this reason alone to be the cause of your problems as I have found that flow as low as .3 gph is where the threshold for serious temperature fluctuation is found.
    I paid I think $36 new for my pump deffinitly is not the best seeing as it only does .25gph

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    Default Re: Way bigger rad, way higher temps?

    I will get some pics up later when I get the chance, I will deffinitly be swapping out fans tho

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