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    Default Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Just saw this splurged all over the interwebs.

    Thermaltake - U.S.A. - Thermaltake Debuts Full Range of Radiators The Pacific RL and R Series Optimized for Maximum Heat Dispatching

    Seems like TT has lept into the Radiator Market in a big way. Be interesting to see how they perform, and who carries them!

    Scott

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    All of them looks very Smexy.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    I wonder what the cost of two 480mm. The big RL
    ones.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Me too, I looked in Thermaltakes list of online vendors, but none of them are stocking them yet. I expect they will be soon.

    S.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    These look very close to EK's older RADs.
    Would be interesting to see how well they perform.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    New Egg has them $114.95.
    Thermaltake CL-W014-AL00BL-A Pacific DIY LCS RL480 Radiator


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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Beware! Those radiators have an aluminum core instead of a copper or brass one!

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    I was just going to post that EC Luc...

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Just out of curiosity, why is that terribly bad? Dissimilar metal issues? I mean aluminum is a pretty good material for transferring heat. I realize copper is better, but if the rad were designed well, it seems like the difference would be negligible at the amount of BTU's we're trying to transfer in our Rads.

    On the other hand if the aluminum causes corrosion problems, then I can see where that would be an issue .

    Again, just curious, I'd probably buy another brand in any case, but it's worth knowing why this is an issue.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Yes, mixing copper and aluminum can cause galvanic corrosion which can damage your watercooling components.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Thanks Luc.

    As an aside, I found this series on Overclockers.com to be particularly relevant: PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part I - Overclockers part-ii really addresses the issue you mentioned.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Quote Originally Posted by EK Luc View Post
    Yes, mixing copper and aluminum can cause galvanic corrosion which can damage your water cooling components.
    Thank you for your input and concerns for members using this product. Are you an official representative of EKWB? Or just a fan of EKWB products?

    The reason I ask this is that aluminum core vs "copper" core argument has already been discussed in length over the last few years. The final verdict was contradictory to your reasoning for avoiding the mentioned Thermaltake rads. All aluminum cores have proven to be better at removing heat vs "all copper cores", manufacturer added Zinc and other layers makes corrosion a rare issue unless the installer does something stupid. Brazing aluminum cores is more costly than making multi material layered "copper cores". old post that backs up what I just stated. Koolance vs HWLabs Koolance's Response to Hardware Labs "The Copper Radiator Myth"

    So why would any manufacturers go through all of this to sell a product that is dangerous to the end users components?

    Most fluid additives and Pre bottled fluids contain at least one measure to combat galvanic corrosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Thank you for your input and concerns for members using this product. Are you an official representative of EKWB? Or just a fan of EKWB products?

    The reason I ask this is that aluminum core vs "copper" core argument has already been discussed in length over the last few years. The final verdict was contradictory to your reasoning for avoiding the mentioned Thermaltake rads. All aluminum cores have proven to be better at removing heat vs "all copper cores", manufacturer added Zinc and other layers makes corrosion a rare issue unless the installer does something stupid. Brazing aluminum cores is more costly than making multi material layered "copper cores". old post that backs up what I just stated. Koolance vs HWLabs Koolance's Response to Hardware Labs "The Copper Radiator Myth"

    So why would any manufacturers go through all of this to sell a product that is dangerous to the end users components?

    Most fluid additives and Pre bottled fluids contain at least one measure to combat galvanic corrosion.
    So true.
    One very good article about Cooper - Aluminium myth (it's about car rads, but rad is a rad):
    Aluminum VS. Copper-Brass Radiator: Final Thoughts
    PS. Another one: http://www.caparadiator.com/aluminumvscopper.html
    And as you already said, I'm also think there is no manufacturers who will produce something completely usefulness to end users.

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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Thank you for your input and concerns for members using this product. Are you an official representative of EKWB? Or just a fan of EKWB products?

    The reason I ask this is that aluminum core vs "copper" core argument has already been discussed in length over the last few years. The final verdict was contradictory to your reasoning for avoiding the mentioned Thermaltake rads. All aluminum cores have proven to be better at removing heat vs "all copper cores", manufacturer added Zinc and other layers makes corrosion a rare issue unless the installer does something stupid. Brazing aluminum cores is more costly than making multi material layered "copper cores". old post that backs up what I just stated. Koolance vs HWLabs Koolance's Response to Hardware Labs "The Copper Radiator Myth"

    So why would any manufacturers go through all of this to sell a product that is dangerous to the end users components?

    Most fluid additives and Pre bottled fluids contain at least one measure to combat galvanic corrosion.
    Galvanic corrosion is anything but a "myth". Using zinc as a sacrificial anode will slow the galvanic reaction, but not entirely prevent it. Still not a chance I would want to take.

    Not sure regarding the whole "aluminum cores have proven better at removing heat....". In the case of brass cores it would be true, as aluminum has a slightly higher U-Value. But....copper has a U-Value almost twice that of aluminum, so we are talking about defying physics here (though it's funny that it comes up in Corsair's rad of choice, and the laws of science don't apply to Corsair).

    That Koolance statement is interesting, however it fails to mention the wildly different performances of different bonding materials used. And, sorry, I would be having a lot more faith in anything HW had to say than what Koolance would be countering with. Aside from the 380i, Koolance hasn't exactly been a stellar performace name.

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    nice! looking forward to a review on them.
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    Default Re: Press Release: New Thermaltake Rads

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Thank you for your input and concerns for members using this product. Are you an official representative of EKWB? Or just a fan of EKWB products?
    I'm an official representative.

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