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    can anyone tell me what the best Closed-loop cpu cooler money can buy I have been away for a a few years been putting all my money into audio and video but now I am back and going to build a kick ass system so you guys are going to see me a lot for advice and I will be posting build pics also I think I am going with the asus x99 deluxe with the 5960x cpu the casi I am putting it into is the Steiger Dynamics LEET case witch I ordered already thank you in advance

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    Pretty sure EK is still an open loop cooler since you can add components to it. Still, nice unit.

    Check this out as well.

    Hydro Series? H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler


    I just got mine in the mail and plan to review it. The EK units don't say they support AMD sockets for the time being.

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    checkout some of our reviews we have done quite a few

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    I vote for EK Predator (240 / 360), it has possibility to expand the loop.

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    In strictly closed loop? The Cooler Master Neptons are the only ones worth anything. Yes, the rads are as lousy as the rest, but at least they use pumps that can move an adequate amount of liquid.

    Aside from them, does it really matter? They are all essentially the same Asetek unit with different fans. Same high fpi aluminum rad, low flow pump and middling block.

    Yes, there are the couple of CoolIt made units, also, but they fare even worse than the Aseteks. The DeepCool Captains are pretty bad performance-wise, and the Raijenteks have a nasty leaking issue.

    If you want to use the word "best", you should probably be looking at the Swiftech H240-X, which is open loop but there isn't a CLC that comes close to it. Everyone seems to be jumping on the EK bandwagon before even seeing any independent tests ( ), but even in EK's in-house tests it doesn't cool as well as the H240-X, and it uses some fairly noisy fans.

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    In strictly closed loop? The Cooler Master Neptons are the only ones worth anything. Yes, the rads are as lousy as the rest, but at least they use pumps that can move an adequate amount of liquid.

    Aside from them, does it really matter? They are all essentially the same Asetek unit with different fans. Same high fpi aluminum rad, low flow pump and middling block.

    Yes, there are the couple of CoolIt made units, also, but they fare even worse than the Aseteks. The DeepCool Captains are pretty bad performance-wise, and the Raijenteks have a nasty leaking issue.

    If you want to use the word "best", you should probably be looking at the Swiftech H240-X, which is open loop but there isn't a CLC that comes close to it. Everyone seems to be jumping on the EK bandwagon before even seeing any independent tests ( ), but even in EK's in-house tests it doesn't cool as well as the H240-X, and it uses some fairly noisy fans.
    I wouldn't recommend the Nepton due to the fairly loud pump noise. It also kind of rattles. It's part of the reason I decided to try a Corsair unit out.

    Also, there are some benchmarks out on the EK units. One is just from them, but the other is independent. Still waiting on some good 360 reviews.

    EK Predator 240 AIO Liquid Cooling review - Core i7 4790K OC at 4600 MHz 1.3 Volts

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    I only got room for a 240 rad in the case I believe. this is the case I ordered https://www.steigerdynamics.com/prod...is-engineering I just hope it fits the rad on the ek looks really thick or it could just be me ?? and thank you guys
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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    I like the ek just concerned about the rad what do u guys think ? would like to order today so I get the free shipping
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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    Based on what I'm seeing, as long as you don't plan crossfire or sli in the near future, a thick rad shouldn't be a problem. Go with the EK. CLC wise, the H100i GT might be your best bet, but it won't compare to the EK or the Swiftech.

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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    I wanted 2 EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+(80%+) (06G-P4-5998-KR) or should I just go for 1 titan z what would be better cuz I want to make sure I have no problems with any game at 4k ultra settings
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    Default Re: Closed-loop cpu cooling

    Ok, that does make a bit of a difference. I believe that EK unit needs around 65mm of clearance. It's pretty likely your second card could get in the way. It really depends on how far down that second PCIe slot is for SLI on your motherboard.

    Even the Swiftech units could have some clearance issues. Corsair has been focusing a bit more on performance with their new GT and GTX line coolers. If you picked up an H100i GTX, you probably safer on that clearance while still having one of the best performing CLCs on the market. They seem to be overtaking the Neptons now in a lot of review while being quieter.

    Just double checking, but it looks like the rad has to mount below the motherboard, am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Ok, that does make a bit of a difference. I believe that EK unit needs around 65mm of clearance. It's pretty likely your second card could get in the way. It really depends on how far down that second PCIe slot is for SLI on your motherboard.

    Even the Swiftech units could have some clearance issues. Corsair has been focusing a bit more on performance with their new GT and GTX line coolers. If you picked up an H100i GTX, you probably safer on that clearance while still having one of the best performing CLCs on the market. They seem to be overtaking the Neptons now in a lot of review while being quieter.

    Just double checking, but it looks like the rad has to mount below the motherboard, am I right?
    The H100i GTX was the loudest 240mm CLC I have ever tested (the G110i GT and GTX were literally laughable, also), while the Nepton 240M was one of the quietest. While the H100i GTX fell to pieces with the fans turned down to make the noise bearable, the Nepton did not thanks to the fact that the pump moves enough liquid.

    If you had noise and rattling from a Nepton pump, you had a pump with an issue. I have reviewed all four of the Neptons, as well as having installed at least another half dozen and the pumps are quieter than the Aseteks.

    I will need to get permission from Sandy to start posting my results here.

    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    I wouldn't recommend the Nepton due to the fairly loud pump noise. It also kind of rattles. It's part of the reason I decided to try a Corsair unit out.

    Also, there are some benchmarks out on the EK units. One is just from them, but the other is independent. Still waiting on some good 360 reviews.

    EK Predator 240 AIO Liquid Cooling review - Core i7 4790K OC at 4600 MHz 1.3 Volts

    First EK Predator AIO Benchmarks Revealed - eTeknix
    Did you seriously not notice that everything in the test results in the Guru chart contradicts every otherreview of the pieces included? So....for this to have any value, we need to believe that every other test of Noctuas, Neptons, Corsairs, etc (which are somewhat consistent) are wrong. Are you really willing to do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    The H100i GTX was the loudest 240mm CLC I have ever tested (the G110i GT and GTX were literally laughable, also), while the Nepton 240M was one of the quietest. While the H100i GTX fell to pieces with the fans turned down to make the noise bearable, the Nepton did not thanks to the fact that the pump moves enough liquid.

    If you had noise and rattling from a Nepton pump, you had a pump with an issue. I have reviewed all four of the Neptons, as well as having installed at least another half dozen and the pumps are quieter than the Aseteks.

    I will need to get permission from Sandy to start posting my results here.



    Did you seriously not notice that everything in the test results in the Guru chart contradicts every otherreview of the pieces included? So....for this to have any value, we need to believe that every other test of Noctuas, Neptons, Corsairs, etc (which are somewhat consistent) are wrong. Are you really willing to do that?
    Here's the deal, I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, but you've been consistently hijacking every CLC thread and derailing it to argue with people about what you think has to be the best unit. You don't know everything, and you certainly don't know what I've been through with CM. I won't recommend a Nepton because even though it works good, it makes more noise than I want it to. I've already been through multiple RMAs with the glacer unit until they replaced it with the Nepton. There is so many other reasons why I won't recommend a Nepton because that's just my personal experience I don't always have time to explain every detail.

    The big issue here is, Aryan51 came here to get advice from the community. It's good to get multiple opinions, but arguing with other people's advice defeats the purpose of why this forum is here. I know I'm not the only one who loves this community because it's helpful, and usually avoids the typical AMD/Nvidiot hate spam that so many other sites are rampant with. I'm saying this now because I don't want every CLC or LCL discussion to turn into a spitting match of what's best. Ultimately, the best is what the person who has to use it is happy with.

    I hope that while your sitting here complaining about how bad asetek is, you're actually looking at the case that Aryan51 has so you can help him make a decision that will actually work. I have no trouble recommending a h220-X or a EK predator, but I don't think he'll have enough room between his bottom VGA card and the radiator/fan/pump components on those particular units. I can't recommend a Nepton because when everything is said and done, I have not been happy with CM cooling units. The company has been great to me and I support CM, but I bought a H110i GTX to give it a shot. Please don't assume that by this tiny bit of info I gave you, you know everything going on in my head and start shaming me for my decision. I put countless hours into researching this stuff.

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    I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion and they certainly have the right to express it here.

    To the OP: Mark, I think that you should contact STEIGER DYNAMICS tech support and ask them for recommendations as to the cooler, motherboard, GPU, and other components. They're the ones who designed the case. They work with it all of the time while building custom systems inside of it. They have probably already run into fitment issues and know what ~not~ to use.

    Looking at pictures on their website, they seem to like GPU's with water-blocks, and custom water cooling components. That case accepts a 240mm ~and~ a 120mm radiator at the same time.
    This is what I recommend you to build.

    I have to admit that I really like ~very~ quiet fans. So when I use a CLC system, I always put my own (known to be at 16dBA or quieter) fans in a push/pull configuration on the radiator before I ever use it.
    As a result, I have a ton of CM, Corsair, ThermalTake, and NZXT fans laying around that were never used.
    I won five Noctua fans from another website last Christmas, (three 140mm and two 120mm)
    I just did an i7-4770K build last week. In keeping with my quiet fan obsession, I pulled all of the NZXT fans from the Source 530 case and the Kraken X41 CLC. I used all of the Noctua fans except for one of the 120mm. Then I ordered four more 140mm Noctuas so it all matches.It has six 140mm and one 120mm fan installed.
    It's very quiet, and very cool running. The extra money was well worth it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Here's the deal, I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, but you've been consistently hijacking every CLC thread and derailing it to argue with people about what you think has to be the best unit. You don't know everything, and you certainly don't know what I've been through with CM. I won't recommend a Nepton because even though it works good, it makes more noise than I want it to. I've already been through multiple RMAs with the glacer unit until they replaced it with the Nepton. There is so many other reasons why I won't recommend a Nepton because that's just my personal experience I don't always have time to explain every detail.

    The big issue here is, Aryan51 came here to get advice from the community. It's good to get multiple opinions, but arguing with other people's advice defeats the purpose of why this forum is here. I know I'm not the only one who loves this community because it's helpful, and usually avoids the typical AMD/Nvidiot hate spam that so many other sites are rampant with. I'm saying this now because I don't want every CLC or LCL discussion to turn into a spitting match of what's best. Ultimately, the best is what the person who has to use it is happy with.

    I hope that while your sitting here complaining about how bad asetek is, you're actually looking at the case that Aryan51 has so you can help him make a decision that will actually work. I have no trouble recommending a h220-X or a EK predator, but I don't think he'll have enough room between his bottom VGA card and the radiator/fan/pump components on those particular units. I can't recommend a Nepton because when everything is said and done, I have not been happy with CM cooling units. The company has been great to me and I support CM, but I bought a H110i GTX to give it a shot. Please don't assume that by this tiny bit of info I gave you, you know everything going on in my head and start shaming me for my decision. I put countless hours into researching this stuff.
    You aren't being a jerk, and, quite frankly, I expect these kinds of reactions. I wasn't shaming your decision - I was stating a fact that the new Corsairs were the loudest CLCs I have ever tested (that is saying a lot taking the Neptons with JetFlos and Silverstone Tundras into accout). That is a pretty widely known statement, it isn't exactly a secret that I let out. You stated that the H100i GTX is a better performer and quieter than the 240M. While it is a better performer at the top end, it is significantly louder (10+ d. At like noise levels the H100i GTX does not outperform the 240M. Perhaps your Nepton experience was different than mine - but, as I said, I have used 10+ and not one had a loud pump when it was getting 12V. There may well be another variable causing what you saw - pump issue, undervolting, etc.

    There are some things that you need to understand.

    First, I do not know everything, nor do I purport to. However, everything I state is the result of hands-on testing in controlled conditions of any unit I speak about. It is not internet heresay, it is not second-hand, it is not the results posted by some site using deltas obtained in different scenarios and builds and regurgitated into a chart to look good and taking their ad dollars and sponsorship into account. When I state an A/B comparison, it was done on the same day, in the same climate/humidity/noise controlled lab room in the same build with exactly the same settings. I don't get ad dollars, so no one gets preferential treatment.

    Second, someone needs to be the voice of reason and fact, or simply Devil's Advocate. It is not in my nature to play "rah-rah" cheerleader for someone's unicorn and fairy dust marketing campaign. I am not willing to dismiss higher temps and noise levels (or pretend that those numbers should be read as "higher is better") at higher prices to join in the circle...um....sorry, family friendly edit. Imparting facts that may not be liked comes with the territory, and those facts are a necessary part of the decision making process when buying.

    As far as the OP, I did make a recommendation, which was the Nepton. It offers far better noise/performance balance than the Corsairs and fits in the case. I wasn't about to jump on the EK bandwagon simply because I haven't tested one, nor has anyone I know and trust in the industry. I expect them to be excellent, but that can't be said as a certainty.

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