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    Default Swiftech New Apogee GTZ

    It's coming soon........http://www.swiftech.com/assets/images/products/apogee%20gtz/apogeeGTZ-x400.jpg
    can't wait to see the review and results comparison with the GTX.

    Update: It is here, you can find our own review by click this link http://www.pureoverclock.com/article655.html

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    Good colour for the maximus II, Is this on your list Deton? Have these designs reached a plateau or do some still perform a few degrees better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Good colour for the maximus II, Is this on your list Deton? Have these designs reached a plateau or do some still perform a few degrees better?
    not really, I want to see the test results though.
    I have a GT and upgraded to GTX. The GTX has about 2c (max) performance better than the GT, I think the GTZ will have 2c better than the GTX.

    The reason I upgraded to GTX because of it's performance, more compact than the GT but I don't think I will upgrade to the GTZ for 2c gain this time. I don't think it's worth it for $60-$80 trade off 2c. I might considering if it over 5c performance gain though but I doubt it.

    I'm still have the GT block is laying around and colleting dust, I might put it to use. I've been thinking to put my WC into TEC liquid chilled setup, still under brainstorming state though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    not really, I want to see the test results though.
    I have a GT and upgraded to GTX. The GTX has about 2c (max) performance better than the GT, I think the GTZ will have 2c better than the GTX.

    The reason I upgraded to GTX because of it's performance, more compact than the GT but I don't think I will upgrade to the GTZ for 2c gain this time. I don't think it's worth it for $60-$80 trade off 2c. I might considering if it over 5c performance gain though but I doubt it.

    I'm still have the GT block is laying around and colleting dust, I might put it to use. I've been thinking to put my WC into TEC liquid chilled setup, still under brainstorming state though.
    Woah !!! nice water block there... i was wondering if its possible if i replace my pump and waterblock combo with this into my loop and buy a separate Swiftech water pump and match it to my radiator/reservoir setup?

    There you go Deton...u are right...im already thinking about upgrading my loop ...hahah
    BTW what is that TEC liquid chill and the Pelter that i read somewhere? what are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Woah !!! nice water block there... i was wondering if its possible if i replace my pump and waterblock combo with this into my loop and buy a separate Swiftech water pump and match it to my radiator/reservoir setup?

    There you go Deton...u are right...im already thinking about upgrading my loop ...hahah
    Yes you can, if you doing like you said it just like a brand new kit. Then it is better you sale the current kit and go customize from scratch.

    I think you are better wait for the performance comparison that I was asking people to participate. Then you can decide which route is best for you to upgrade.

    Your pump/block = Apogee GT and MCP350 combined. If I were you the first step is get bigger rad and a micro reservoir. This upgrade only cost you under $80 US, you will gain a couple degree and still have head room to cool the Northbridge chipset.

    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    BTW what is that TEC liquid chill and the Pelter that i read somewhere? what are they?
    Here, for you reading pleasure.
    There are some issues that you have to consider when you use thermoelectric cooling.
    Power controlling, condesation and cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Yes you can, if you doing like you said it just like a brand new kit. Then it is better you sale the current kit and go customize from scratch.

    I think you are better wait for the performance comparison that I was asking people to participate. Then you can decide which route is best for you to upgrade.

    Your pump/block = Apogee GT and MCP350 combined. If I were you the first step is get bigger rad and a micro reservoir. This upgrade only cost you under $80 US, you will gain a couple degree and still have head room to cool the Northbridge chipset.


    Here, for you reading pleasure.
    There are some issues that you have to consider when you use thermoelectric cooling.
    Power controlling, condesation and cost.
    Bigger Rad? mine is a 2x120 Rad mounted externally, how much bigger can i go? 3x120? My case wont fit ?

    I realized now that my H20-220 unit is about coming 2 months old...the temps have not been the same...it looks like my system now idles at 47 Degree Celcius (Same Ambient temps 29-30DC), last time after its first installation for 3 weeks it idles on 45Degree (Same Ambient temps 29-30DC)..wonder what happened to that 2 degrees

    sorry i didnt get the link you provided? did i miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Bigger Rad? mine is a 2x120 Rad mounted externally, how much bigger can i go? 3x120? My case wont fit ?

    I realized now that my H20-220 unit is about coming 2 months old...the temps have not been the same...it looks like my system now idles at 47 Degree Celcius (Same Ambient temps 29-30DC), last time after its first installation for 3 weeks it idles on 45Degree (Same Ambient temps 29-30DC)..wonder what happened to that 2 degrees

    sorry i didnt get the link you provided? did i miss something?
    Can it fit at least 1x120 rad?
    47c?...is that core temp I hope?
    You have very high ambient operating temp, even with custom setup and bigger rad. You still get idle temp around 40ish. Watercooling does depend on ambient temp, the higher ambient temp then you coolant temp will rises. Your rad even working harder at this point because the fans didn't provide any cool air to aid dissipating the heat.

    Opps...I forgot to attach the link and here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peltier-Seebeck_effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Can it fit at least 1x120 rad?
    47c?...is that core temp I hope?
    You have very high ambient operating temp, even with custom setup and bigger rad. You still get idle temp around 40ish. Watercooling does depend on ambient temp, the higher ambient temp then you coolant temp will rises. Your rad even working harder at this point because the fans didn't provide any cool air to aid dissipating the heat.

    Opps...I forgot to attach the link and here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peltier-Seebeck_effect
    Hi Deton, yeah 47c is core temp
    Yeah it can fit another 1x120 for sure...u are suggesting if i add another 120 radiator to my current set up? so in total i will have 1 loop 2 radiator? Is my swiftech Compact pump up to it? I'm also thinking of setting up to include dual watercool graphics card?

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    yes, if it can fit one 120.3 rad then do that. I think your pump will be able to handle that setup.

    If you are thinking to WC the video card then you should use one 120.3 rad for this. Your card has dual GPU. I though your case won't fit any more rads, how can you do dual loop?

    Oh by the way, Swiftech rad works best with low speed fans. You should keep them at low-med speed.

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    Good looking block right there, nice and compact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    yes, if it can fit one 120.3 rad then do that. I think your pump will be able to handle that setup.

    If you are thinking to WC the video card then you should use one 120.3 rad for this. Your card has dual GPU. I though your case won't fit any more rads, how can you do dual loop?

    Oh by the way, Swiftech rad works best with low speed fans. You should keep them at low-med speed.
    Yeah...my Fan is set to low speed ... even with the fan set to High, there is no difference
    Man...thinking abt the amount of work required to add another additional radiator is quite troublesome...i really gotta find more time i need to spend with my PC...I have been negecting my rig for too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    not really, I want to see the test results though.
    I have a GT and upgraded to GTX. The GTX has about 2c (max) performance better than the GT, I think the GTZ will have 2c better than the GTX.
    Finally, got the GTZ and its performance was better than I expected . To find out more read our review http://www.pureoverclock.com/article655.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    The reason I upgraded to GTX because of it's performance, more compact than the GT but I don't think I will upgrade to the GTZ for 2c gain this time. I don't think it's worth it for $60-$80 trade off 2c. I might considering if it over 5c performance gain though but I doubt it.
    I was wrong about this, the GTZ is must better block around this time than the GTX was, and $70 block is worth the upgrade from the GTX or any other blocks and even better I only paid $60 for my. It was on promotion price, saw it and gotta to grab right way. I'm glad that I did.

    Yes, this block did give me 5°c lower at idle and 3°c lower for load......2 thumbs up and maybe two big toes too

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    wow well i guese this is the block for socket 775
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    Ok You sold me.......This is the one to buy.....Good review too All the info I needed in one place.

    One quick question though.......what would be the likely effect of putting a higher capacity pump on a system that includes this block?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith View Post
    wow well i guese this is the block for socket 775
    MORE importantly.........it's also 1366 compatible

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Ok You sold me.......This is the one to buy.....Good review too All the info I needed in one place.

    One quick question though.......what would be the likely effect of putting a higher capacity pump on a system that includes this block?
    the advantage of high flow pump with this block is that you can install more blocks or rads in one giant loop.
    For example my pump MCP655 rated 1200Lph but if you hook it up with one up with the GTZ, Resvoir, 120.3 rad with 1/2" bards and 7' of tubing. It will gives you around 7Lpm/2Gpm flow. This is really excellent flow rate, the average good flow rate is between 1-1.5Gpm. The higher flow rate the better temp you have compare to 1/4" tubing but not much different with 3/8" tubing.

    My test results was using 3/8" tubing with two radiators and a Asus Fusion block, so my flow rate is about 1.5Gmp/6Lpm

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