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    Yesterday, I replaced my E6600 with an E8400(3.0ghz) and also installed a Xigmatek S1283 cooler. Wow, what a difference in operating temps, both at idle and under load. I'm wondering if the readings are accurate...

    Before upgrade, cpu was running at @ 50c idle and @ 60 to 70c under load. Now, the readings are @ 23c, and after a half hour of my son and I playing "COD WaW" the temp is still @ 23c!!! Possible?? Readings taken w/ latest ver of "RealTemp". Temps with "CPUID" were 38c under load.

    The issue now is temp of our video card, the nVidia 8800GTS...that is the oven right now... @ 75c temp after COD... Solution? There is a side-fan there, which will be upgraded soon w/ a Minebea (76cfm). Was just web-surfing and got a "BSD" and then re-boot...temp was @ 70c on the GPU.

    Also, should I have have long-term concerns with the weight of this Xigmatek cooler on possible cracking of the MB? I installed it w/ the Xigmatek backplate.

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    Rired48, if you have listed your system spec then I wouldn't have ask you this question.
    Were you using stok HFS before?

    E8400 is 45nm proc, it's running cooler than E6600 and the new cooler is way better than stock.
    About your grfx temp issue, make sure the new cooler exhaust path facing out at the back of the case or top of the case if you have exhaust fan at the top. Just to make sure the cooler fan push the hot air away from the grfx card.

    Actually the grfx temp is normal at load with air cooler. Yes you can improve on case air flow.
    BSOD while surfing...hmmmmm...possible the PSU is the culprit because the video card can operating at high temp no problem.

    If you use a backplate then you will be ok.

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    Yes, had stock Intel HSF on the E6600(not OC'd)...

    Yes, the Xigmatek cooler blows out to rear of case, right into the 120x25 exhaust case fan.

    The vid card is below, and that part of the case is a bit more closed off. Another one of the 120mm case fans is on the side, facing the nVidia. It's kind of a weird setup for that side case fan in this LianLi A16 case...Maybe I'll crank up the fan speed on the nVidia with "RivaTune".

    Within a month or so I am upgrading these 3 case fans to probably Minebea #4710KL's (75cfm) and getting a good fan controller as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rired48 View Post
    Yes, had stock Intel HSF on the E6600(not OC'd)...

    Yes, the Xigmatek cooler blows out to rear of case, right into the 120x25 exhaust case fan.

    The vid card is below, and that part of the case is a bit more closed off. Another one of the 120mm case fans is on the side, facing the nVidia. It's kind of a weird setup for that side case fan in this LianLi A16 case...Maybe I'll crank up the fan speed on the nVidia with "RivaTune".

    Within a month or so I am upgrading these 3 case fans to probably Minebea #4710KL's (75cfm) and getting a good fan controller as well.
    Yeah with the 8800GT GTS models they do averagely stay around 60-70C idle if the fan is no turn up with rivatuner or speedfan. when I used to have the 8800GT I always had it on 55% in rivatuner and idle was at around 50C depending on how hot or cold my room was. playing games it hit around 70C tho.
    and Damn Proud of it!

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    Maybe your mid tower case is to small for this grfx card, since you don't have top exhaust fan this could cause negative pressure build up in the case causes by the PCI fan booster.

    Basicly the front intake fan draw fresh air in and pass thru the HDDs then the PCI fan booster just swirling the warm air around the grfx card and the sournding area. Unless the side fan can draw fresh air from outside as well, I never like this design of the fan.

    Maybe you can install another intake fan at 5.25" bays, then remove that side fan and replace the close-in PCI slot cover with vented type. This will open up the exhaust path for the bottom of the case.

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    yes, I am considering that...THX
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    1. Nice CPU temp at load - 38c! Time to see what she can do...btw, what were you loading with?
    2. I had an 8800GTS before my dual 4850's...did some overclocking and such...and thoroughly loved it. 75c at load is not uncommon, and should be perfectly stable. Question, how is you gfx cooled? Blower out the back?

    As you yourself suggested, I recommend you do use Rivatuner to up the fan speed if you are concerned. It was a cinch. As I recall, the auto fan speed control didn't do much, so it was always on like 30%, which wasn't enough.

    IDK if you need to replace the fans in your case. Don't Lian Li cases come with decent fans guys? If not that's a rip-off, they cost way too much for that kind of business. Try taking off that weird vent thing first. Most cases with side fans are set up to blow fresh air on the gfx cards through the side of the case, not take air away from that area. I'm not saying bucking convention is a bad thing, but the other guys might have something going this time. Maybe you could mod you case to put a fan in the side...you're just a few hundred drill holes away.

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    I like "eVGA Precsion" rather than "RivaTuner"... easier for someone w/ my level of knowledge. I cranked up the fan on the 8800GTS.... seemed to help by about @ 5c or so...

    Here are a few pics of the type of side-fan exhaust this case has...
    http://www.xoxide.com/lian-li-pc-a16...hannelid=FROOG
    http://www.xoxide.com/lian-li-pc-a16...hannelid=FROOG

    If I get another front intake 120x25mm case fan... will give me 2 front intakes, one side, and one rear exhaust. Would this make sense? The replacement case fans I'm considering are:
    Minebea #4710KL
    Scythe SFF 21G
    Yate Loon D12 SM-12

    I'm also getting a fan controller.

    What do you all think? Thx, guys...
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    My 8800gt idles about 40C with fan set to 77%, and doesn't go above 60C during full load
    It could be my 6 88cfm yate loons :P

    Blow some compressed air in their..

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    How about my fan question... please...thx
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    Opps sorry missed the fan question
    Yate loon are good and cheap. I would go with a medium, as the noise doesn't bother me, thats why I go with high.

    If your willing to spend alittle bit of money, you could go with a aftermarket cooler for your 8800gts.

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    I just picked up a new 38mm x 120mm Panaflow.......86cfm I believe..........awesome! Quiet for the airflow, I'm very impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rired48 View Post
    If I get another front intake 120x25mm case fan... will give me 2 front intakes, one side, and one rear exhaust. Would this make sense? The replacement case fans I'm considering are:
    Minebea #4710KL
    Scythe SFF 21G
    Yate Loon D12 SM-12

    I'm also getting a fan controller.

    What do you all think? Thx, guys...
    I'm water cooling guy, I like quietness and most of my fans are Scythe SFlex, Yate Loon are good too, never heard of Minebea.

    I do have fan controller but I hardly turn the fans up and down regularly. I use it to set the fans to a certain speed that I'm happy of and never touch it again. So the fan controller is good if your mobo don't have enough fan header for all your fans that you are going to use. Or you like manualy control the fans speed.

    I think you should mod the side fan, cut an opening hole, drill four mounting holes on the side panel and install the fan right on it and just use wire (chrome or black fan guard, get the one that is match with the case colour) fan guard.

    Now you will have 3 intake fans, one for HDD, one for grfx and PCI components and one for NB and CPU (at 5.25" bays)

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    If you are getting a fan controller provided that you do NOT exceed the current rating of each channel my recommend would be to buy fast/loud fans ....fast gets you the airflow/cooling you want but you can control this down some if you are running a different bios profile or not stressing your rig.

    For example rather than the yateloon d12 sm-12 get the d12 sh-12

    If you were to buy the really high cfm fans though watch out for the current rating be aware of the MB header output limits too if you use these.

    You might want to try removing the back pci-slot plates completely to see if this makes a difference
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    Will this LianLi (Sunbeam) fan controller handle those fans? ( would have 4 fans...3 case and cpu cooler fan...all 120x25mm...)
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    No problem it's rated at 20w per channel the 88cfm yateloon sh12 is about 4w.

    Except for fans like the big Deltas (which sound like a jet taking off) this one should handle mostly anything you throw at it.

    Edit: Have you seen cases fitted with a really big side fan (about 300-350mm)? might be worth it if these other Ideas don't work but to trial it I would use a sheet of aluminium taped to the side and fit to that rather than destroying a good side panel....anyway just a thought
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