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    I know very little about water colling except you need a radiator, pump,blocks and coolant dont want to waste any cash on junk .What are some of the best liquid cooling systems for my rig!! Do i buy everything seperate or a kit. Lets talk about waterblocks too! What are the different typs THANKS!!!!!!

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    BIG subject but here goes....BUY SEPARATES cos the normal kits are often poorer performance than top air cooling.

    First decide whether you want to install everything internally in your case (and that's if it will fit) then decide what you want to cool ie cpu gpu MB. etc.

    Personally I would consider the laing d5/swiftech 655 pump, either the heatliller or Swiftech Apogee XT cpu block ......then the rad decision depends on if quiet is important to you cos some rads work better with slow fans some fast fans some in between. How much radiator depends on what you are cooling.....are you getting the picture on how many variables there are here????
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    Thank you for your reply I want something totally kick ass noise level doesnt bother me .I think i want to try the motherboard and cpu for now and down the road maybe gpu.This morning i was looking at Koolance brand blocks they look real nice do you know if there any good.And how about a setup that goes on top of the case i have the HAF932 as im sure you know its huge so point is plenty of room also looked at 5.25 drive bay set ups.Thers just to many to choose !! I want something impressive and flawless preformance a must!

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    Ok you can install a dual rad at top of HAF932 and if noise is not your concern and money is no issue then get Feser or Thermochill rad. A dual rad is enough to cool i7 950 and mobo.

    Grumpy is right about the block & pump, they're one of the best at the moment.

    Regarding about mobo block, all of them perform within each other, because mobo is not that hot like the CPU, therefore these block don't have any pin matrix or a lot of water channel so they are pretty the same in the performance.

    Bitspower and EK have very nice blocks for Classified too. You should go with full covered block, it will eliminate the extra fittings, tubing and no multi GPU issue.

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    Ok cool now im getting somewhere thats some nice stuff you guys suggested The swifteck pump,opogee cpu block,ek full mobo block and the fesser dual 140 mm rad.Sweet now what kind of resivoir and oh that pump is for 1/2 in tube so i assume i will be needing some tube now what about how to connect should i use barbs or compression fittings?

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    Hey James do you have a budget? i'd suggest the following if you dont

    CPU WaterBlock: Heatkiller 1366 Copper
    Rad: Feser, ThermoChill or XSPC
    Pump: Swiftech MCP655/Liang D5 (both the same)

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    BTW i found this new thread about Swiftech's Apogee XT something about quality problems so if you do own one pls check!

    Apogee XT quality problems

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    a little reading on rad performance...

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...59&postcount=1

    Now you see why bully suggested those

    The barb question is one of aestetics and blocks used ...My MB uses multi blocks and as a result I cannot fit compression to everything because of the spacing between holes but on the cpu block they do look better (if bulky)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    BTW i found this new thread about Swiftech's Apogee XT something about quality problems so if you do own one pls check!

    Apogee XT quality problems
    I'm not defending Swiftech here but didn't some people also complain about Heatkiller too?
    Some time a bad seed to find it ways pass QC inspection. Those micro pin matrix are so small and they are fragile so they are easy to fall off during CNC milling.

    By the way, there is no performance lost with some missing pins. Seriouly they are too small to make a huge different in performance lost.

    The guy posted the post on EVGA forum doesn't understand how to read the review, the review was XT exclusive review.

    The only problem I'm aware of the XT is compability with Gigabyte boards but the revision block are out. So no more any problem that I'm not aware of just beside you might get some poor quality block passed the inspection.

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    Regarding to the fittings; there're no performance gain if you use 1/2" bard vs. 1/2" compression.
    Here are the different:
    Bard
    Pros: cheaper, take up less space
    Cons: clamp, esthetics

    Compression
    Pros: no clamp, esthetics
    Cons: expensive, bulky (especially the big size one) might not fit with any block

    About mobo block, if you use fullcover block you don't have the issue with not to fit with the compression.

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    Cool sounds like we have swiftech fans and heatkiller fans there both nice and around the same price i will take my chances on the first available.Back to the radiator do you guys suggest the shroud or not or do i have to have it? As far as the rad im looking at the thermochill PA120.3 .Swiftech 655 pump ( hope its big enough for this rad ) . Now im looking for resivoirs dont know internal external or drive bay tube style i have no idea!

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    The pump is probably the best there is without going to exotics (v.expensive for little gain) and will power a single loop including gpu the only proviso being that one should choose lower restriction blocks, rads etc for best performance.

    I am not sure you can fit a 120.3 in your case...Deton suggested above that the 120.2 does fit.

    The choice of whether or not to fit a shroud is entirely up to you as is fans in push or pull configuration ....the gains are there but we are talking a degree or at most two as shown by various testing.

    I use a simple res http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekmure.html with connection choices ...all I can say is it works for me with inlet in bottom and outlet in side which for me at least bleeds quickest.
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    yeah a 120.3 will fit at top of HAF932, the reason I said 120.2 because you're only cool the CPU and MOBO. It's sufficient but a triple rad are better than dual.

    I see you have 3x GPUs, don't even think of doing one loop in the future. You need two seperate loops for your specs.

    PA120.3 works best with mid to high flow fans, so you should get fans with high RMP. It's good to get the fans over 2000rmp then use fan controller to adjust its speed to suite the rad. 38mm fan are better than 25mm one but this depend on your case. The rad is almost 3" thick and add on the fans then you need at least 4" of clearance.

    Shroud don't increase much in perfomance but it helps to elimate air flow dead spot, especially for push configuration.

    Reservoir?....this is depend on your taste and the case.
    Do you have any room left to install out side bay style or you have to use bay res?

    Yes, both blocks are good (XT & HK 3.0) but the XT have the compability and flexible with fittings over HK 3.0 at the moment.

    XT included 1/2" bards, clamps, thermal compound and the hold down plate compatible with 1156 and 1366 socket, back plates included for this sockets. This block can fit 3/4"OD compression fitting.


    HK 3.0; you have to order a specific hold down plate/back plate, won't fit with over size compressiong fittings.

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    Ok good guys this morning i took rough measurements to be sure the rad would fit , it will definetly be better with the v-10 out of the way the reason i wanted to go with 120.3 is so i could exspand later for now i think im gonna get the cpu and mobo . So many times before i have bought stuff and wasnt happy and wanted more so it always ends up costing double so im not making that mistake this time! I think maybe th XT may be easier to work with then ,being it pretty much comes with everything i need.Question about mobo waterblock can i unscrew components and screw in the waterblock or do i have to take my board right out to get the nuts on the back cause i really dont want to disect this thing but i will if i have to. Ok how about these loops any pics or sites for a better understanding?

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    Denton i just read your guide to water cooling this is awsome info i unerstand it a lot better just need help understanding multiple loops!

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    Dual loop setup is what it says on the tin...... (I personally don't think this order is written in stone)

    Loop 1 ...Pump outlet – Radiator inlet – Radiator outlet – CPU inlet – CPU outlet to any other block inlets – Reservoir inlet – Reservoir outlet – Pump inlet.

    Loop 2.....Pump outlet – Radiator inlet – Radiator outlet – GPU inlet – GPU outlet – GPU inlet – GPU outlet for as many as you have – Reservoir inlet – Reservoir outlet – Pump inlet.

    Gpu's put out a lot of heat so putting them on their own loop is a good Idea....A single 275 could run on a loop with the cpu but your 3 280's would likely also offer rather too much flow restriction for a single loop.

    So 2 pumps 2 rads 2 reservoirs and neither loop is connected to each other
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