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    Well after coming back home from Afghanistan I was amazed on how bad the USPS treated my last rig (Core i7 950, GTX 260, EVGA Classified, etc.). The attempt to collect on my insurance has proven to be very difficult.

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    I am planning on building a rig using a better case (Corsair 800D) and upgrading my graphics to GTX 480s. I want this to be a solid water cooled system but I am having a hard time visualizing the set up. I know I want my motherboard, CPU, and possibly two GPUs all liquid cooled.

    After reading through the forums I saw pictures of diagrams so I made a couple with what I had in mind.



    What are your thoughts/suggestions?


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    Welcome to Pure OC !

    I'm sure Deton or Earthmonger will be along shortly to help you out with this. As far as USPS it can take up to a year to collect from them. I had to wait 11 months to collect $198.87 for 18kt Gold earrings I send to a woman in Sweden so for a computer it may take even longer.

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    I been a lurker since I decided to build my last rig and had issues with my overclocking.

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    Welcome to PUREOC!

    some of images didn't show up, so I'm going to make the comment on what I saw.
    First of all you should list water cooling parts so we can advice you if the parts are suitable with the case you're choosing or not.

    The following are my heat estimation for the hardware that you want to water cooled.
    Oced 950 @ 4Ghz = 150-180W
    Mobo = 100W
    GTX480 = 250-280W each x 2 = 500W minimum

    Total heat dump = 780W for SLI setup

    So a good average high-end radiator such as XSPC-RX360, Thermochill PA.120.3 or Feser TCF X-change with 1500 - 2000RPM fans are not capable to handle....no re-phrasing...to give you good temps in one giant loop. You are better to do two separtate loops, one for CPU+MOBO and the other just graphic cards.

    Second image; stacked rads don't give you double cooling power, perhaps only 10-20% increase in heat dissipation due to the air flow. According to your illustration, you are drawing warm air from the second rad and inside the case, I'm sure the air temperature at least from 30C and up. Of course this idle temp I'm talking about here, it will be higher when it at load. The coolant delta temp will be at least 10C above ambient temp. A good coolant delta temp is around 5C.

    Hope this give you some ideas.

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    Doc....let sue them

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    I know the 800D is popular, but it is one of the few instances where I have to say a case is poorly designed for liquid cooling. There is space for one triple rad, without modification, but it isn't enough. For a system like you're planning, two triples would be best. But there's no place for that second triple to go. Unless you move the PSU elsewhere, but that may be more work than you want to do.

    Regardless of one loop or two, you're going to need two pumps. CPU, chipset, dual GPU, multiple rads -- it's too much restriction and too much distance for one pump, unless you're going to use an Iwaki. lol

    If your heart is set on this case, then I'd actually recommend one internal and one external rad, or a single massive external rad like the Mo-Ra 2 Pro or Mo-Ra 3 Pro. Slim rads like the Swiftech Quiet Power or Black Ice GTS series rads are not enough; full size rads are a must.

    These are my thoughts.

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    I really liked the case and is a very nice upgrade from the old CoolerMaster HAF that I had. What case do you know would be more like the 800D but have these features which would make my dual loop most plausible?

    On another note do you think the flow can be split in a Y form so I could use the same reservoir but have the two separate loops join at the reservoir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloraloz View Post
    I really liked the case and is a very nice upgrade from the old CoolerMaster HAF that I had. What case do you know would be more like the 800D but have these features which would make my dual loop most plausible?

    On another note do you think the flow can be split in a Y form so I could use the same reservoir but have the two separate loops join at the reservoir.

    HAF932 is good for air flow.....

    http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/prod...roduct_id=2988
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    I really didnt like much of the features on the HAF case. Yes, the airflow is convinient but I dont see where the liquid potential comes into play.

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    If you are really like that case and you must have dual loop then the second triple rad have to be installed external at the back of the case.

    The max rad can be installed internally is one triple at the top, a single at back exhaust fan and one at mid plate. However, it's very tight space to work with.

    You might can get away with two dual 120.1 rads for CPU+MOBO, this is depend on what temp you want to achive, and use triple rad for 480s.

    Yes you can use Y split from res outlet port to branch out the coolant. However, you will loose the pressure in half when it parallel. Dual pump or extrem powerful one is good for this setup.

    In this case, a common res is not good because the coolant on the GPU loop is always hotter than the CPU loop therefore it will effects the CPU temp. It's better to have two separate loops.

    You can still do one giant loop with two triple rads and D5 pump in series but two will be better. You can do the setup with one pump first to see what result you are going to get, if it's bad then add on another pump later.

    When you have more than 3 blocks in one loop and one pump then the flow rate usually around 1Gpm (this base on D5 and DDC pump) this is a minimum rate to give you better temp. Everything below 1Gpm you will get poor temps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloraloz View Post
    I really didnt like much of the features on the HAF case. Yes, the airflow is convinient but I dont see where the liquid potential comes into play.

    Ohh. A trip 120 can be installed on the top. the second loop needs a rad external attached.

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    Aloraloz, what is your country, and when do you plan to build your beast? Also, can I assume that based on your hardware choices, budget isn't a major concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthmonger View Post
    Aloraloz, what is your country, and when do you plan to build your beast? Also, can I assume that based on your hardware choices, budget isn't a major concern?
    I live in Texas, US. I will be building this as soon as I can understand what I am doing as far as the liquid goes. Budget isn't my major concern but if I can keep it under $3k then I'll be a happy geek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloraloz View Post
    I live in Texas, US. I will be building this as soon as I can understand what I am doing as far as the liquid goes. Budget isn't my major concern but if I can keep it under $3k then I'll be a happy geek.
    Okay. Several good WaCo* vendors in the US. Can you estimate what you'll have leftover for water cooling gear (and possibly a case) after the rest of the hardware is bought?



    *WaCo: Water Cooling. I think I'll use that term from now on. It's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthmonger View Post
    Okay. Several good WaCo* vendors in the US. Can you estimate what you'll have leftover for water cooling gear (and possibly a case) after the rest of the hardware is bought?



    *WaCo: Water Cooling. I think I'll use that term from now on. It's funny.
    Well I salvaged some things from my last build. I got hard drives, Blu-ray drive, PSU, and I think the old GTX 260 is still good.
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