motherboards
Arctic
Arctic Feezer 7x
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Help a guy pick out WC parts?

  1. #1
    Member

    Status
    cookiesowns is offline

    Last Online
    13-01-2012 @ 04:24
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    California, CA / Taipei, Taiwan
    Posts
    55
    CPU: Intel 980x 3005F803T @ 4.4ghz 1.42v
    M/B: Asus Rampage III Extreme
    RAM: 24GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 @ 9-24-1T
    GPU: SLI EVGA GTX580 1.5GB at 950/2200
    • cookiesowns's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 800D, Modded for quad rad
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX1200
      • Cooling:
      • EK Waterblocks all around, Serial MCP355+35X, 2 Black Ice 480 Rads, BP Compression, White and Black Tubing 1/2"
      • Sound:
      • Asus Xonar "Xense"
      • Monitor:
      • Samsung BX2335
      • OS:
      • Windows 7 X64 Ultimate
      • Misc:
      • I currently run the system at stock for basic use. No need to overclock, but those clocks were my old 24/7 stable gaming and benchmarking settings.
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts
    Points: 1,562, Level: 11
    Points: 1,562, Level: 11
    Level completed: 4%,
    Points required for next Level: 288
    Level completed: 4%, Points required for next Level: 288
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default Help a guy pick out WC parts?

    Hey guys, I'm back, with the need for water

    Sorry for not being on pureoverclock for a while now.

    Anways, back on topic. I'm currently looking to go into H2O. I saw the swiftech kit, and it really caught my eye. Precisely the H20-Apex 220 Ultima XT Plus Edition, since it includes everything I need.

    Or should I go for a full custom? Which one would be better / cheaper in the long run?

    Right now I'm looking at the Swiftech XT for the cpu block, Koolance blocks, and EK.

    Could someone help me pick out everything I need? I'll be cooling either a 4870 or a 5830, so Full cover isn't really the best choice for me. And I would like at least a dual radiator, or possible two, since I'll be cooling my i7 920 @ 1.49v @ 4.0 ( hoping ), overwise just 1.45v at 3.9 with a 5830/4870 heavily overclocked.

    Any webshops I should look into? And I would like the best silent/performance ratio without breaking my Piggy bank. 300-350 Before Tax.

    And Yes, maybe i should invest into another 5830. But the only reason I can afford WC, is because I like the challenge
    Last edited by cookiesowns; 25-07-2010 at 05:19.

  2. #2
    OC Jedi Padawan

    Status
    smduff is offline

    Last Online
    06-02-2016 @ 22:51
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    British Columbia, Canada
    Posts
    2,372
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T@4GHz
    M/B: ASUS Crosshair V Formula
    RAM: 4 Gigs Mushkin 1600MHz
    GPU: VisionTek AMD Radeon 6970
    • smduff's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Danger Den Tower 21 Black Series
      • PSU:
      • Sentey GOLD 1000W
      • Cooling:
      • Custom Water- EK Supreme HF EK X360 Rad DD 5970 Block MCP655 6X Ultra Kaze 3000rpm 133.4cfm
      • Monitor:
      • LG Flatron 19"
      • OS:
      • Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    Thanks
    109
    Thanked 518 Times in 476 Posts
    Points: 17,345, Level: 40
    Points: 17,345, Level: 40
    Level completed: 12%,
    Points required for next Level: 705
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 705
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default

    Deton has done some really good reviews I would start buy reading those and go from there, until someone with some more definitive answers pops in.

  3. #3
    Regular Member

    Status
    Zinos is offline

    Last Online
    07-01-2014 @ 12:52
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Southeast US
    Posts
    300
    CPU: 3570k @ 4.4 ghz
    M/B: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
    RAM: 16GB G.SKill Sniper @ 1600mhz
    GPU: GTX 780 @ 987mhz
    • Zinos's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Corsair Air 540
      • PSU:
      • PCPC Silencer MkII 750w
      • Cooling:
      • Corsair H100i
      • Sound:
      • Onboard HD
      • Monitor:
      • Hanns G 28in
      • OS:
      • W7 64-bit
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 21 Times in 15 Posts
    Points: 6,362, Level: 23
    Points: 6,362, Level: 23
    Level completed: 63%,
    Points required for next Level: 188
    Level completed: 63%, Points required for next Level: 188
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default

    You're looking at the brands. Swiftech, Koolance, and EK are all great.

  4. #4
    Banned

    Status
    Drdeath is offline

    Last Online
    02-07-2013 @ 01:04
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Chicago Burbs
    Posts
    8,549
    CPU: Intel Core i7 3930K @ 5GHz
    M/B: ASROCK X79 Extreme 6
    RAM: 16G G.Skill Trident 2400MHz
    GPU: 2 x Radeon 2G 7970 Liquid cooled
    • Drdeath's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Phobya CooliT TestBennch
      • PSU:
      • Nexus 1100W
      • Cooling:
      • Custom water. Apogee XT Rev 1, Thermachill TA120.3 plus 120.2, Swiftec Micro res, MCP655
      • Sound:
      • OB
      • Monitor:
      • Viewsonic 27"
      • OS:
      • Win7 64bit
    Thanks
    275
    Thanked 1,022 Times in 880 Posts
    Points: 28,339, Level: 51
    Points: 28,339, Level: 51
    Level completed: 72%,
    Points required for next Level: 311
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 311
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Overall activity: 99.9%

    Default

    Ok.. I would recommend custom watercooling. It may be a little more expensive now but better in the long haul.

    My 4 favorite waterblocks are:

    Heatkiller 3.0
    Apogee XT
    EK Supreme
    XSPC Rasa

    Each will be 1 or 2 drgrees within each other and the Apogee XT would be an excellent choice.

    For GPU Block, EK makes terrific waterblocks as well as Koolance. I did buy a Danger Den summit and it was less than EK GPU blocks and does a dynamite job. it only ran me $80 too.The safe bet is definitely EK.

    For pump its a no brainer. The Liang MCP655 is a great choice but the MCP355 will be fine also. Deton will fill you in on the differences between the 2. I think the 655 pumps more liters per hour but the 355 has more head pressure... I forget.. Go with MCP655 a great choice.

    For Rad, after I did some research, the Thermalchill PA120.3 or 120.4 will be good(thats why I got it). With my system, i7 930/5870 My CPU runs 40 in the summer idle @ 1.375v and mis 70's at load. At stock, my 5870 runs 32 idle 55 load. At 1.3V My GPU is mid 30's idle low 60's load. XSPC makes a good rad and I think Deton just did a review on it. If you use low speed fans, it cools great and the 120.3 is under $100....... If I remember.... LOL

    Here is the XSPC review: http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=986

    Tubing.... I use 3/4 tubing I had laying around from my aquarium. Python is the brand but most guys like Tygon tubing.

    For res, an inexpensive one is the Swiftec microres. it will work fine and its under $30.

    Do not use dyed coolant. it will clog up system in time. I use distilled water with a few drops of biocide(PT Nuke). Cheap as can be!

    Your voltage is way off on your CPU. 1.49V is way too much at 4Ghz. 1.4v should be plenty and you shouldn't need 1.45V for 3.9Ghz.. You do not need 2 rads for your setup. A good quality 120.3 will do the job or if you want a little more horsepower for further possible add ons, a 120.4 will be good too.

    I like the guys at Sidewinder and also order from Frozen PC. Great service on both companies.

    You are going to be well over $350 for all you listed. The CPU and GPU waterblocks on the conservative side will run $180. The pump $70 or so. The Rad $100 ish. Res $30. add tubing, fans and clamps.... probably $450 on the conservative side. You may want to cool your CPU 1st and in a bit get the GPU block to make it more affordable now.

    GL





    Old setup with 2 x 4890's

    Last edited by Drdeath; 25-07-2010 at 04:08.

  5. #5
    Member

    Status
    cookiesowns is offline

    Last Online
    13-01-2012 @ 04:24
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    California, CA / Taipei, Taiwan
    Posts
    55
    CPU: Intel 980x 3005F803T @ 4.4ghz 1.42v
    M/B: Asus Rampage III Extreme
    RAM: 24GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 @ 9-24-1T
    GPU: SLI EVGA GTX580 1.5GB at 950/2200
    • cookiesowns's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 800D, Modded for quad rad
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX1200
      • Cooling:
      • EK Waterblocks all around, Serial MCP355+35X, 2 Black Ice 480 Rads, BP Compression, White and Black Tubing 1/2"
      • Sound:
      • Asus Xonar "Xense"
      • Monitor:
      • Samsung BX2335
      • OS:
      • Windows 7 X64 Ultimate
      • Misc:
      • I currently run the system at stock for basic use. No need to overclock, but those clocks were my old 24/7 stable gaming and benchmarking settings.
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts
    Points: 1,562, Level: 11
    Points: 1,562, Level: 11
    Level completed: 4%,
    Points required for next Level: 288
    Level completed: 4%, Points required for next Level: 288
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Ok.. I would recommend custom watercooling. It may be a little more expensive now but better in the long haul.

    My 4 favorite waterblocks are:

    Heatkiller 3.0
    Apogee XT
    EK Supreme
    XSPC Rasa

    Each will be 1 or 2 drgrees within each other and the Apogee XT would be an excellent choice.

    For GPU Block, EK makes terrific waterblocks as well as Koolance. I did buy a Danger Den summit and it was less than EK GPU blocks and does a dynamite job. it only ran me $80 too.The safe bet is definitely EK.

    For pump its a no brainer. The Liang MCP655 is a great choice but the MCP355 will be fine also. Deton will fill you in on the differences between the 2. I think the 655 pumps more liters per hour but the 355 has more head pressure... I forget.. Go with MCP655 a great choice.

    For Rad, after I did some research, the Thermalchill PA120.3 or 120.4 will be good(thats why I got it). With my system, i7 930/5870 My CPU runs 40 in the summer idle @ 1.375v and mis 70's at load. At stock, my 5870 runs 32 idle 55 load. At 1.3V My GPU is mid 30's idle low 60's load. XSPC makes a good rad and I think Deton just did a review on it. If you use low speed fans, it cools great and the 120.3 is under $100....... If I remember.... LOL

    Here is the XSPC review: http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=986

    Tubing.... I use 3/4 tubing I had laying around from my aquarium. Python is the brand but most guys like Tygon tubing.

    For res, an inexpensive one is the Swiftec microres. it will work fine and its under $30.

    Do not use dyed coolant. it will clog up system in time. I use distilled water with a few drops of biocide(PT Nuke). Cheap as can be!

    Your voltage is way off on your CPU. 1.49V is way too much at 4Ghz. 1.4v should be plenty and you shouldn't need 1.45V for 3.9Ghz.. You do not need 2 rads for your setup. A good quality 120.3 will do the job or if you want a little more horsepower for further possible add ons, a 120.4 will be good too.

    I like the guys at Sidewinder and also order from Frozen PC. Great service on both companies.

    You are going to be well over $350 for all you listed. The CPU and GPU waterblocks on the conservative side will run $180. The pump $70 or so. The Rad $100 ish. Res $30. add tubing, fans and clamps.... probably $450 on the conservative side. You may want to cool your CPU 1st and in a bit get the GPU block to make it more affordable now.

    GL
    Actually my voltage isn't off at all. It's a very early C0 Chip, 3836A761 If I recall. For maximum stability I need to run at least 1.38QPI always since 6/12GB of 1600 Needs it, sadly. And I need at least 1.43 for 3.8. But 3.6 can run fine at 1.30 For some reason, maybe it's best to leave it at that.

    Well If a full custom would run me 450, then I guess the swiftech Kit is affordable then? And I can't go for a triple due to the fact that I would have no place to mount the radiators.

    What do you think?

    Here is the specs for the swift tech kit, and best of all I can get it locally, so If anything goes wrong, simple RMA.

    Complete CPU liquid kit incl. Apogee XT CPU water-block, MCW60 VGA water-block, MCW30 chipset water-block, MCR220 radiator & fans with pre-installed Radbox, MCP655-B pump, MCRES Micro R2 reservoir, tubing, smartcoils, Hydrx coolant, clamps, thermal compound, installation guide
    Oh, and what about Koolance products? And how about some reputable webshops that I could look around.

    Thanks for all the help guys !

    PS: everything would either be in a Antec 1200 or the HAF932, I would prefer the HAF, but just the full panted look and the window of the antec, well just looks nicer.

    It would be test fitted on a Q6600 first, then migrated to my i7 rig.

    This is what I worked off so far, Seems like side winder is cheaper? Note that this isn't apples to apples.
    Last edited by cookiesowns; 25-07-2010 at 06:42.

  6. #6
    Regular Member

    Status
    rickss69 is offline

    Last Online
    10-12-2014 @ 22:38
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Rockvale TN - USA
    Posts
    518
    CPU: Intel 980X
    M/B: EVGA Classified
    RAM: 12GB DDR3
    GPU: VisionTek 7970
    • rickss69's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • NZXT Phantom Enthusiast
      • PSU:
      • Antec 1200
      • Cooling:
      • Phantek air cooler
      • Monitor:
      • ASUS 27" @ 144Hz
      • OS:
      • Win7 64
      • Misc:
      • Always fiddling...
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 49 Times in 47 Posts
    Points: 5,833, Level: 22
    Points: 5,833, Level: 22
    Level completed: 57%,
    Points required for next Level: 217
    Level completed: 57%, Points required for next Level: 217
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default

    I've always used these pumps... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4510 ...less plumbing with integral res and plenty powerful.

  7. #7
    OC Jedi Master

    Status
    Deton is offline

    Last Online
    27-02-2014 @ 22:13
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,493
    CPU: i7 920, 4.2Ghz HT
    M/B: P6X58D Premium
    RAM: OCZ Flex EX PC3-17000 12GB
    GPU: Asus EAH5870
    • Deton's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Lian Li A70F
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Galaxy Evo 1250W
      • Cooling:
      • Custom H20 setup.
      • Sound:
      • Onboard
      • Monitor:
      • ViewSonic VX2435
      • OS:
      • Win 7 - 64bit
    Thanks
    45
    Thanked 1,179 Times in 1,026 Posts
    Points: 50,246, Level: 69
    Points: 50,246, Level: 69
    Level completed: 36%,
    Points required for next Level: 904
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 904
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Overall activity: 7.0%

    Default

    $350 budget is not enought for custom setup, you need at least $500. It's best to start out with Swiftech kit. It's flexible enough for you to swapping parts, upgrading down on the road later, trust me when you have get yourself wet with water cooling you will never stop upgrading. I don't mean to scare you but it's a WC disease. Sidewinder has this kit on sale for $230 at the moment, you still have $120 left to get a GPU block or a triple radiator.

    online stores?
    you can check out Koolance site for their exclusive products. PerformancePCs is another good resource. Sidewinder is the cheapest place to get WC parts however they don't have everything like PPC.

    You need at least a triple rad to cool the 920 @ 4Ghz and a graphics card though, dual rad is not enough. Thermalchill is a good high performance rad but beware of 3/8" port fittings, it's not standard for today's fittings therefore it's pretty hard to find 3/8" fittings. Only Bitspower carries it though. Yes XSPC is another good value performance rad but Swiftech rads are the best bang for buck radiator.

    The disadvantage of fullcover GPU block is no universal and cost. So decide which card you are going to get first before you purchase FC block. If you want universal one then you must use memory/VRM heatsinks. It's little pain in the rear to work with but it will last you from one generation card to another and also compatible with different makers (ATI/NVIDIA) as well.

    For pump; either D5 (MCP655) or DDC (MCP350 or 355) are both good, the numbers are the the flow rate for each pump. If you plan to do high flow setup and use 3/4"ID tubing then go with D5 pump. Both of these pumps comes with fixed bards, the MCP655 has 1/2" bards and the MCP350/355 is 3/8" bards. The MCP655 has bigger footting so it's little harder to mount it in a case that is not adquate for WC setup. On the other hand, the MCP350/355 is much small, low profile pump that can and easy tuck it everywhere in the case. BTW, you can buy the top replacement for both pumps with threaded outlet/inlet ports you can use any size of fittings.

    Tubing; Tygon R3630 is the most common one, you are either have the choice to go with clear or colored or solid black tubing. If you use straigh distilted water + biocide thenn solid or color tubes are the best choice.

    Addictive: this is hard to tell, I'm only speak from my own experience. I've used both Hydrix and Feser One brands, and I don't have any issues like people reported yet. The problem was the build up when the color dye break down over times. This is can be a lot of factors, the setup is not pure througouhly rinse/flush, expose to sun light...etc. Anyway, I haven't have any major clogging yet. I guess because I constancely swapping part for reviews therefore I constancely draining the system. BTW, I do filter the coolant everytime I'm do the draining though. Because I'm reusing them

  8. #8
    Banned

    Status
    Drdeath is offline

    Last Online
    02-07-2013 @ 01:04
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Chicago Burbs
    Posts
    8,549
    CPU: Intel Core i7 3930K @ 5GHz
    M/B: ASROCK X79 Extreme 6
    RAM: 16G G.Skill Trident 2400MHz
    GPU: 2 x Radeon 2G 7970 Liquid cooled
    • Drdeath's Full Spec's
      • Case:
      • Phobya CooliT TestBennch
      • PSU:
      • Nexus 1100W
      • Cooling:
      • Custom water. Apogee XT Rev 1, Thermachill TA120.3 plus 120.2, Swiftec Micro res, MCP655
      • Sound:
      • OB
      • Monitor:
      • Viewsonic 27"
      • OS:
      • Win7 64bit
    Thanks
    275
    Thanked 1,022 Times in 880 Posts
    Points: 28,339, Level: 51
    Points: 28,339, Level: 51
    Level completed: 72%,
    Points required for next Level: 311
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 311
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Overall activity: 99.9%

    Default

    Why not go woth a full cover GPU block. You can do it for about the same $. You do not have a res is your 1st build and I hate those clamps. These are better:



  9. #9
    Banned

    Status
    Earthmonger is offline

    Last Online
    19-07-2013 @ 23:39
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1,344
    Thanks
    81
    Thanked 153 Times in 122 Posts
    Points: 6,620, Level: 24
    Points: 6,620, Level: 24
    Level completed: 14%,
    Points required for next Level: 430
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 430
    Overall activity: 0%
    Overall activity: 0%

    Default

    Keep in mind that if you go with a universal GPU block (not full cover), your mosfets and memory are going to run hot, which may limit your OC potential. You can buy passive memory and mosfet heatsinks, but by the time you factor in their cost, you're better off with a full cover block. Best to pick which card you're going to use now. The 4870 or the 5830. Not both.

    It is also of note that the 655-B that comes in the Swiftech kit, is the model without variable speed. If you want quiet, that isn't the pump you want. But it's overkill for your loop anyway.

    Rad: Swiftech QP series Quad - $70
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo4xbl.html

    Swiftech rads are okay. Despite their price, they do their job. The one problem is, they're thin rads. A normal rad is 50+ mm thick. These are all 37. So I recommend a quad, rather than a triple. But at $70, it's a hard deal to pass up. Mount the rad to the back of your case using:

    Rad Mounts: Bitspower Rad Support I - $12
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/biradsuiunra.html

    CPU block: Watercool HK Rev 3 Copper - $80
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkiller1366.html

    Never skimp on your CPU block. lol

    HK backplate: $8
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hk1366plate.html

    Hose clamps: basic wormdrive clamps x8 - ~$3
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/brmihocl7int1.html


    Pump: MCP355 (12watt) - $67
    http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-3510.html

    This is the basic, no frills 355. It is adequate for your loop.

    Res: XSPC pump-top res - $40
    http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Acrylic...C-pr-4123.html

    Basic reservoir which doubles as a pump top. Never use alcohol-based cleaners on it, or coolant dyes.

    Tubing: Primochill Pro LRT 1/2"-3/4", black, 10ft - $19
    http://www.jab-tech.com/PrimoFlex-Pr...D-pr-4190.html

    When it comes to tubing, I like Tygon 3400 and Primochill Pro LRT. Between these two, it's your preference. The Primochill comes in a variety of colors. I'm estimating 10' just so you'll have some extra.

    Fittings: 1/2" DangerDen Fatboys, 8x @ $2.50 (2x are included here for undetermined GPU block) - $20
    http://www.jab-tech.com/Dangerden-FB...b-pr-4181.html


    I won't bother listing fans, since you probably have spare 120mm case fans laying around anyway (we all do ) that will probably work. The Swiftech rads work well with 1000 - 2000rpm medium speed fans. If you actually don't have any, look into some cheap Yate Loons.

    Total: $319, minus shipping, and excluding GPU block.

Remove Ads

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Help me pick out a new Liquid Cooling system
    By dcdave78 in forum Cooling
    Replies: 73
    Last Post: 21-01-2011, 05:19
  2. EK parts
    By grumpydaddy in forum Cooling
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 28-06-2008, 09:47
  3. Need Help to Pick Processor
    By Minty in forum AMD
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 03-04-2007, 23:11
  4. Got All Of The Parts Except Psu And Case
    By AMD_Nvidia in forum General Hardware
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 30-06-2006, 13:48
  5. My parts r on the way
    By AMD_Nvidia in forum General Hardware
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 30-05-2006, 13:12

Search tags for this page

120.4 swiftech ultima xt

,
python koolance fan pump
,
swiftech h20-220 ultima xt hose and bard and threads
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Tags for this Thread