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    Ok, i'm starting a custom watercooling system.

    After doing some research here and there i got all excited on building my own waterblock, then carried on with the searches i decided to try and make myself all that i can, with used parts, build some, etc...

    At this time there's only the idea, i've made a rough sketch of the waterblock, that is going to be copper base and a plexiglass top.One inlet at 1/2" tubing, trying to make a "jet" system for the inlet, and two 1/4" outlet. Here is the first outline of the little bastard, the dimmensions are in milimeters.





    For the radiator i'm going to the junkyard near here and try and buy a car heatercore that does the job perfectly, and can be set with a 120mm fan.
    I'm still brainstorming for the reservoir, i'm to think of something crossing a common reservoir with a bong...let's see what i can come up with...

    Any toughts, critics are wellcome.
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    i hope you follow through with this, looks like a great project.

    What's your reasoning for having two 1/4" outlets?

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    I trying to match the intake volume. I was going with 3/8" for 1 inlet and 1 outlet, then changed the inlet to 1/2" to try and do a jet design, the 2 1/4" is to try to match the inlet volume...I'm not an engineer or something but if u have something getting a lot of flow in and can't get it out at the same rate u create a lot of pressure, right? I don't know...maybe thats good?
    This is probabilly not a final design, it may have a few changes along the way, depending on feedback from other people, in terms of flow design, heat dispersion, etc...

    What about the design of the block, i still trying to find out where exactly the cores stay in E6600, i believe it's on the center of the cpu...

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    the way cpu's are going i wouldn't aim for a specific area, some blocks are already having issues with Kentsfield because of this, i think it was deton who said this (?).

    why not just go for a 1/2" outlet? people really don't want dual outlets anymore, and they don't seem to offer anything extra from what cather said years back (the guy who made the whitewater and Storm).

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    TV!
    Do you already have all the tools, material and machinery to make the block?

    It is fun to build it yourself but some time it doesn't get the same results as a store bought one. Probably cost more at the end, plus the times you put in. You can get a decent block for under $80US. Unless you are a skill craftman? Then go for it.

    Check out a new block from Swiftech, I just posted a new thread.

    This link just only for James Swiftech Apogee GTX - NEW Block
    James, I know you've already read the thread. You lazy bum.
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    perhaps i'm just lazy, but i want link so i don't have to go hunt for it with the back button lol.

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    Yes, i know i can get a good block for a nice price, but if i can manage to pull this off at a maximum price i would pay for a store one i would be happy.
    About the machinery as i said i'm trying to make the block as simple, so that i can work it with the power tools i have....a drill and a dremmel.I think is doable...only the plexy top is bugging my head, i still have to find out how much it will cost to do what i have in mind, if that goes off budget i'll go with copper top.

    I understand your point of view Jameson, about the specific area aiming, and probabilly it would be easyer to fabricate if i do it to entire surface, i'll have a go on that at CAD to check it out...but i own a conroe and the block is for me not for selling, so if i am right and the cores lye on the center of the cpu, i think this output is also ok.
    About the inlet/outlet, if i go with 1 outlet i'll stick with 3/8 for both inlet and outlet, thw 1/2 i think is to big.With the 2 outlets in 1/4 i was thinking i'd go for northbridge and the other - and this one i will probabilly not going for - was for gpu.

    With the actual design i think i can create some turbulence, and off course as i don't own a milling machine, the final product won't be as clean as the CAD sketch i made in 15 minutes, maybe i'll get lucky and get access to someone that knows a guys who is cousin of a friend..................that can do a favor.

    I'll keep this thread going with some design updates for now, and maybe at the end of next week i'll have the copper to start woking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVasconcelos View Post
    About the inlet/outlet, if i go with 1 outlet i'll stick with 3/8 for both inlet and outlet, thw 1/2 i think is to big.With the 2 outlets in 1/4 i was thinking i'd go for northbridge and the other - and this one i will probabilly not going for - was for gpu.
    this is a really bad idea. If the flow resitance is better on the NB block compared to the GPU block, water will be attracted to the NB and the end result will be less flow to the GPU, even the expert watercoolers out there don't go this route, it's a nightmare to get it right.

    tbh, from what you just said, just buy a block, a lot of people have made home made blocks but they use real decent machinery and engineering principles and still most of the time they don't get it right. Cather was the best at this and you don't even want to read his mammoth posts including equations and all that malarky.

    It will be impossible for you to get performance anywhere near a good block from a dremel and some glue, and if by some freak chance you do make a competitive block like this, run to the store and buy a lottery ticket, because you've got the luck of the gods with you on that day

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    great idea to do it yourself but im with james on this one some things are just better left to the manufacturer:$

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    Jameson thats what drives me...try to get it right, of course i'm not going to compete with the blocks out there but is a project, and if i can't get it to the standards of a streamline one - and i probabilly won't - is my build and i'm sure is going to be better than the zalmman that i have.
    I can't afford a wc system, at leat for the moment, and this gets me ocuppied, and will get me some experience, and a good one, and i'm gonna be proud when it's finished and running.It's my baby...

    I'll post some update to the design later on.

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    well if you stick with it and like you said, learn a lot as you go, maybe in the future you will be making incredible blocks, got to start somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVasconcelos View Post
    ...only the plexy top is bugging my head, i still have to find out how much it will cost to do what i have in mind, if that goes off budget i'll go with copper top.
    Around $25-$50 for a sheet of 12"x24" I think at HomeDepot but you can get a smaller size. You have to check at your local stores. You can ask for some scrap pcs for free . You don't need a lot for this but you do need more than one because this is your first attemp. I know you won't be happy with the first try.

    Good luck with the project and don't forget to keep up with the updates.

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    Ok this i a design change, at least for the bottom part.I'm not going to change much more, i hope, unless i totally undoable.I've thought about
    that deton, maybe they have some leftovers they can spare...i only need a piece 10x10cm (1"=2.54cm).
    Tomorrow is saturday and i'll be on he junkyard looking for a radiator to start setting things up.

    I still don't know the price of the copper, and today i started thinking in aluminum - i won't go for alu, at least not yet - but is not so good as copper, the great thing about it is that i could have easy access to it and is better to work.But i'm gessing copper goes arround 5 to 10€ the Kg.
    (once again- 1€=$1.31, and 1Kg= i believe ?2.2 pounds?)


    Ok, wish me luck for tomorrow's search, i will get one tomorrow no matter what, i saw a bike one today, from and "abandoned" - i think the first time i unscrewed one bolt someone would come to me saying i was robbing - the only catch is hat is too big about 35x50cm. (For me thats big...Jameson...yours is a monster).

    Not much for today, but got some nice renders from CAD, - they would be better if i just could get 3ds max to work with vista - and i work, so i don't have much time unless on the weekend.


    Probably i'll only post on monday again, unless i cant refrain myself to show you the radiator - i think that with the luck i have i won't find anything tomorrow -, so take care...

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    [quote=TVasconcelos;5877]





    I still don't know the price of the copper, and today i started thinking in aluminum - i won't go for alu, at least not yet - but is not so good as copper, the great thing about it is that i could have easy access to it and is better to work.But i'm gessing copper goes arround 5 to 10 the Kg.
    (once again- 1=$1.31, and 1Kg= i believe ?2.2 pounds?)

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    Don't go for aluminum. Copper disipate heat better than aluminum.

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    Well hello to you all, and thanks for your suppot guys.

    As i expected, my incredible luck tricked me again, i still don't have a radiator, although i've seen one, a real nice one but it was aluminum. The guy had a load of them...aluminum and copper at my choice, but he asked a price that i didn't like and since all the oher places were closed by the time i got to the junkyard, i'll have another go tomorrow or the day after.I don't want to stick with the first choice that appears to me.By the way i have a little question, is it bad if i choose an aluminum radiator to go with copper waterblock? or i can mend that by using that anti-corrosion liquid people use in watercooling systems, or is better if i stick to copper, since the price is he same...

    Don't worry deton i wont go with aluminum for the waterblock, before starting with this idea i did a bit of research about that.

    So for now...i don't have a lot, and since i'm running low on cash, i've been focusing in things i can build without money...the reservoir.

    So i have access to PVC tubing, my mom runs a business with plumbing stuff
    , electrical, etc.So i'm thinking in going with a 90mm or maybe 110mm tube, build a top and a bottom for it...easy since these tubes have acessories to do that, hehehe.And i can start by starting to make the holes, fittings for the flow tubes etc...The only thing i don't like is that the PVC tubes are grey, or white...i would like to see the liquid inside...hell i'll manage something.

    Meanwille i'll ask a buddy of mine that lives near the acrylic (plexygass) store if he can stop by and ask if they have some letfovers that can spare.

    This project is going to low down a bit for now, €€€ or $$$ or even are not in abundance here so i'll have to take it slowly.

    Take care, hope to report some news real soon.

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    You can build the reservoir out from the acrylic. The following are tools and materials that you must have to build it.
    1). Taps & Die kit - to bore the fitting holes with threads.
    2). Liquid glue & Syringe - to glue the acrylic sheets together
    3). Power tools (cutting tools, drill, bench drill works better than hand held one) Of course you're already know about this.

    Alternative Option: Ask the glass/acrylic shop to make you one. I know they will charge you an arm and a leg for it or just buy a prefab one. Nahhh... this will defeat the purpose of DIY project right?

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