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    I'm running an i7 920 and have been considering upgrading to a i7 950.

    I've got a water cooled ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, i7 920 D0 and 6g Corsair XMS1600C9 RAM. I'm stable overclocked at 4.2G and with the 950 coming into my price range I've been thinking about upgrading.

    I want some opinions on the chances of getting a 950 past 4.2G and just how far past it I can get.

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    dont waste the money they are both the same chip, the 950 has higher multiplier that is. If you have 920 D0 then you will be able to push it up to 4.4Ghz but you wont be able to keep the temperature in check though. This is go the same for 950 procs unless you have chilled water cooling.

    So use the money to upgrade on something else. The only proccessor worth to upgrade to is the 980x.

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    You should be able to get 4.3-4.4Ghz but 200MHz is not worth $280.

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    Is your 920 a C0 or D0 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Is your 920 a C0 or D0 ?
    Put your bi-focals on...LOL ...... It's a D0




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    LMAO how the hell did I miss that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Is your 920 a C0 or D0 ?
    It's a D0, but I've had to push my vcore pretty early on. It's been awhile, but when I was still air cooling it I had to go to 1.35v somewhere around 3.4-3.6G. To get to 4G it took 1.4v+ vcore. Right now I'm at 1.45v and 4.2G (although I hit 4.2G at 1.43v) and still tweaking the rest of my voltages. My core's are hitting temps at low 70c's under load.

    I'd like to get my temp's down a bit but only getting an increase of speed of .2-.4G isn't enough of a trade off to spend $280-$300. (I can get a 950 locally for $300).

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    don't bother to waste $300 on the 950, you need to adjust the other voltages as well; QPI/DRAM, CPU PLL....etc.

    1.45v @ 4.2Ghz is too high for D0 chip. I believe D0 takes less than 1.4v at this overclock.

    My chip is C0 and it's sitting at 1.44v at 4.2Ghz now. So all you need is do fine tune the other voltage so you can bring the Vcore down.

    BTW, you won't notice the performance difference from 4Ghz to 4.2Ghz in real world compute or gaming so save the money to upgrade on something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    don't bother to waste $300 on the 950, you need to adjust the other voltages as well; QPI/DRAM, CPU PLL....etc.

    1.45v @ 4.2Ghz is too high for D0 chip. I believe D0 takes less than 1.4v at this overclock.

    My chip is C0 and it's sitting at 1.44v at 4.2Ghz now. So all you need is do fine tune the other voltage so you can bring the Vcore down.

    BTW, you won't notice the performance difference from 4Ghz to 4.2Ghz in real world compute or gaming so save the money to upgrade on something else.
    My D0 overclocks like a C0, has from the start and has bothered me ever since I got it. I'm lucky to get to 3.0 with stock vcore. I've been running my current settings for awhile now but they really need tweaking.

    Here they are and any help here would be greatly appeciated.

    I just recently upped my vcore from 1.4375. I'm not 100% stable with these settings but I can run OCCT for almost an hour before BSOD, which is why I went to 1.45, but without any luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalamaniac View Post
    My D0 overclocks like a C0, has from the start and has bothered me ever since I got it. I'm lucky to get to 3.0 with stock vcore. I've been running my current settings for awhile now but they really need tweaking.
    I spotted your problem.
    The reason you have high voltage displaying because you have Intel SpeedStepping and Turbo ON. This is mean your CPU was running way over 4.2Ghz when you Prime95, you never get it stable if you leave these two features enable. See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megalamaniac View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    I spotted your problem.
    The reason you have high voltage displaying because you have Intel SpeedStepping and Turbo ON. This is mean your CPU was running way over 4.2Ghz when you Prime95, you never get it stable if you leave these two features enable. See below.
    Seems you were right, I disable Speed-Step and dropped my BCLK to 190. Then started with my vcore and QPI/DRAM voltages back to 1.35v and, to my surprise, it seems to be stable. I've only ran Linx for about 20 mins so far, but previously with Speed-Step on I've needed much higher voltages.

    I was under the impression that I only needed to disable speed-step and other power saving features until I reached stability and then could turn them back on (so I left a few on). Which of these features should I turn back on after I'm stable and which should I leave off?

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    You can have both of them back on but only if you clock it at 4Ghz and you do need higher Vcore to get it stables.

    If you are currently clock it at 4.2Ghz then you can turn on the Speed Stepping to save power at idlling, which it will clock down the speed when there is no load to the CPU.

    I would suggest you to run Prime95 again after you turn these features back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
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