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    Hey guys,
    I am new to posting on the forums but have read through many posts learning how to overclock. Im am very new to overclocking computers but i seem to be stable at 4.0. My concern is my cpu temps. According to Real Temp my low end temps are 41 41 40 38 and my high end temps are 89 85 86 85 (Prime 95 FFT for 30 min). I have seen alot of people who are able to get higher speeds with lower temps and i want to make sure my settings are correct. I would appreciate any input any of you may have.

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    -CPU Clock Ratio 20
    -CPU Frequency 4.0
    --Interl Turbo Boost Tech Disabled
    --CPU Core Enabled All
    --CPU Multi-threading Enabled
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    --C3/C6/C7 State Support Disabled
    --CPU Thermal Monitor Enabled
    --CPU EIST Function Disabled
    --Bi-Direction PROCHOT Enabled


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    -Cpu Clock Drive 700 mV
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    -QPI/Vtt Voltage 1.280 V
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    ICH I/O 1.50v
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    I think your watercooling is a rebranded H50 or H70..... You possible need to reset the waterblock or you have an air flow problem depending on how you have it mounted. Are you using fans???? Pls take a few pics and post them for Dr Deton. Also there is a beter way to fill your specs in your profile than on the bottom of sig.
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    most single radiator factory sealed kit can't handle overclocked i7. However, late 80ish for 4Ghz is something really wrong here.

    Check if the pump work properly, or the fan correct installation.

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    If i understand you correctly Denton, mid to high 80s is normal for a 4.0 oc? I think i would be ok with low 80s but high 80s does not leave much room for error. Can you suggest any BIOS changes that might help to lower CPU temp but keep me at 4.0 and stable?

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    Hey yabilly i had a similar problem recently with a corsair h70 and the problem was that they had supplied 2 types of plastic bolt holders for the mount unit, one set for AMD and one set for Intel mounts. Id accidentally mixed them up and the heatsink was sitting slightly skewed which caused my temps to sky rocket to 90c like yours.
    If drdeath's thinking is correct then make sure you have used the right plastic bolt fittings for the mount otherwise it will sit slightly off the cpu and get high temps.
    When i reset mine correctly with the h70 my temps went from 90c load to around 50c load at stock.
    If you need any more info just ask and ill try and help

    EDIT: Drdeath is exactly right it does seem to be the exact same mount as the corsair, so it could either be too loose or like i said it could be that your using the wrong plastic bolt mounts. You need to be using the ones with 2 holes in them and use the hole closest to where your goin to mount the cooler (if that makes sense)
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    Quote Originally Posted by yabilly View Post
    If i understand you correctly Denton, mid to high 80s is normal for a 4.0 oc? I think i would be ok with low 80s but high 80s does not leave much room for error. Can you suggest any BIOS changes that might help to lower CPU temp but keep me at 4.0 and stable?

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    If your cooler is the same as H50 then when it's working properly the temps should around late 70ish or early 80ish for 4Ghz.

    some people think 80s is ok because in real world it won't reach that high but I don't like it to have the temps that high. However, it's hard to get your rig stable when the temps are that high.

    Are you saying your overclock ain't stable at the current settings?

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    Push and pull on the rad will help. What kind of thermalpaste did you use and how did you apply it? Improper application will cause higher temps. Also pics of the inside of case would help determine how the air flow is. Better air flow may help temps. These are things to look at as you may be able to squeeze 5 degrees better temps out of your system.

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    That cooler you are using looks like it is exactly the same as a Corsair H50.

    I have a Corsair H70 and hit a max temperature of 79ºC under LinX running at 4.2 HGz at the same CPU vcore setting you have.

    From what I've seen of reviews that compare the H70 and H50 on OC'ed systems, it probably "should" be keeping your CPU cooler than it is, but probably not dramatically so.

    MUCH more knowledgeable people than me already recommended making sure it is installed correctly on the CPU, and checking your case airflow, so I'd go with that.

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    Hey Russell,
    Remonted the water cooler with Artic silver 5 and my tmeps have gone up. I am now looking at low temps in low 50s. I applied a pea sized drop in the middle of CPU and then tightend water cooler slowly making sure to tighten each side a little at at a time. Any suggestions? Did i go about applying paste wrong? As for the air flow that should not be a problem. 3 intake 3 exhasut and cords are out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yabilly View Post
    Hey Russell,
    Remonted the water cooler with Artic silver 5 and my tmeps have gone up. I am now looking at low temps in low 50s. I applied a pea sized drop in the middle of CPU and then tightend water cooler slowly making sure to tighten each side a little at at a time. Any suggestions? Did i go about applying paste wrong? As for the air flow that should not be a problem. 3 intake 3 exhasut and cords are out of the way.
    The amount of fans can be deceiving. It is....

    Where they are located
    How much air do they flow(cfm)
    How much air is entering and how much is leaving through rear exhaust

    You would be surprised on how much cooler you can be with the addition if a higher cfm fan on your rear exhaust.

    If you re applied Tim and temps went up, you did something incorrectly. Either not enough Tim or jot enough contact.

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    I am not worried about the air flow into or out of the case. I have a 240mm fan on side that is intake as well as 2 140mm fans on front for intake. For exhaust i have 1 230mm fan top of case that is ajustable. 1 140mm at bottom of case and one at the top rear of case on both sides of radiator. 1 pushing through radiator 1 pulling.

    When applying paste should i spread a coat over the CPU and then put heatsink on? I thought to much paste was a bad thing and would cause a gap between CPU and Heatsink. I will try and post pictures a bit later on so you guys can give feedback on my setup. Thank you all for your help so far. I will make this damn thing work!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yabilly View Post
    I thought to much paste was a bad thing and would cause a gap between CPU and Heatsink.
    True, but not enough and there will be air gaps, which is worse than to much TIM.

    I don't think there is any one "best way" to apply it, or even a best TIM for all situations.

    Not all parts fit together the same, and parts that look like they are flat may not be. The heat spreader on a CPU is usually lower in the middle than around the edges. If the contact surface of your heat sink is as large as the heat spreader on the CPU, there will be a gap where there is the most need for efficient heat transfer.

    I'd recommend test fitting the heat sink on the CPU to make sure your TIM is spreading out evenly, and adjust your application method/quantity as needed.

    After the incredible results I got with my GPU cooler replacement project on my GTX470, I plan on doing the same to my CPU and the water block on my H70. I don't expect nearly as amazing of an improvement though.
    My GTX470 now runs 29ºC cooler with air cooling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yabilly View Post
    I am not worried about the air flow into or out of the case. I have a 240mm fan on side that is intake as well as 2 140mm fans on front for intake. For exhaust i have 1 230mm fan top of case that is ajustable. 1 140mm at bottom of case and one at the top rear of case on both sides of radiator. 1 pushing through radiator 1 pulling.

    When applying paste should i spread a coat over the CPU and then put heatsink on? I thought to much paste was a bad thing and would cause a gap between CPU and Heatsink. I will try and post pictures a bit later on so you guys can give feedback on my setup. Thank you all for your help so far. I will make this damn thing work!!
    Again, it is not how many fans.... It is the air pressure. Too many fans cause turbulence but it seems woth what you have it is OK. Take a photo of your rad position so we can see it.

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    hey yabilly,
    Just make sure the pastic adapters that come with the mount are the correct ones for your socket. It will mount with incorrect ones but will not sit flush. They need to be the plastic adapters with 2 holes on and you will need to use the hole nearest to where the cooler will be mounted.

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    Ok so take a look at the pics and let me know what you think. The Heatsink mount looked fine to me. As for the fans or case set up let me know if you have any questions or sugestions. Im really curious what you guys think about the Radiator setup. Do you think case fan <---- rad<---rad fan is a good set up? Or should i just be running Rad to case and then rad fan pushing air through rad?

    Also i think i need a better thermal paste. Any suggestions for the best possible paste? I have heard IC Diamond is Great. Thanks again guys i know ill get this thing worked out soon with your help. If everything looks ok in the case should i try lowering voltage in order to bring CPU temp down?

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    My personal opinion about the rad location is move it to the top. The location is using warm air grin inside the case. If you mount it on top and make your 200mm fan blow down, you will have outside ambient air cooling the rad. Obviously you need to remount the block.

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