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    Default Which of the "best of the best" TIM products are the most fluid?

    I lapped my CPU and H70 water blocks down flat, to as polished as I could get them with 1000 grit paper, but now I'm having an issue with my TIM.

    The "best" I have is some Gelid GC 2 that came with my Icy Vision VGA cooler.
    The problem is, it seems a bit dry, and doesn't like to spread out in an ultra thin layer when I clamp the H70 down on the CPU.
    The best I've been able to get out of 4 bad applications of the GC 2 is only running 3-4C hotter than the stock H70 setup.

    I don't think the retention mechanism for the H70 has quite the clamping force as what I've seen from pictures of other cooler setups, and not nearly what the Icy Vision cooler had on the GPU on my gtx470.

    Rather than try to mod the bracket on the H70, I'd like to try some more fluid TIM, but I really have no idea what the consistency of the various products out there are.

    Which of the "best of the best" TIM products out there are the most fluid?

    After fighting this for a few hours, now I'm wondering if I could be getting more out of my Icy Vision than the 29C improvement over the stock cooler that I already got. LOL

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    Creamique is pretty running but works best when your using phase cooling.

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    I tested 3 types of thermalpaste with my watercooling and lapped CPU/waterlblock. Artic Silver 5, OCZ Freeze and IC Diamond were all 1-2 degrees apart. If you use Tunic, you will gain 1 or 2 degrees over the rest IMO.

    IC Diamond is a little thick and needs a little more for a full spread using the "small pea" method. It is best not to spread the TIM. Just put a blob the size of a small pea and the heatsink will spread the TIM. Do a trial run and pull the heatsink off the get a visual. If the circle is smaller than the chip, you need a little more. If it goes over the edge....less. Clean the chip and the heatsink with alcohol before re- applying.
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    IC Diamond is thick hard to spread stuff but gives good results

    MX 2 is good and easy The one I would pick if doing multiple mounts.

    MX 3 is very thin Rather too watery for my liking but good results

    The ceramique I have is thick and not as good as those above

    On a flat block I use pea blob method, on heatpipes I fill the gaps in first

    The first 3 are very close in performance as mentioned above

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    fellas, you're all right about the TIM but no body say anything about his lapped CPU and cooler.
    He said his temp got worse after lapped, 4c hotter and I think because I can't spread his paste.

    Ok, why don't you get MX-2 or MX-3 (see Grumppy's comments), do a thin line method right at the center of CPU from North to South. Install your H70 block, uninstall it check for its contacting surfaces, maybe you can take a picture and post it for us. This will tell you how good you did the lapping job or your cooler are.

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    If you want something that spreads thin and gives you great temps in return use Zalman ZM-STG-01 or Ultra Thermal Gel They both come in a bottle with a brush attached to the cap.

    Like I mentioned it spreads thin, so apply it to both your CPU and heatsink. I use this on my 980X chips, my Boreas Chiller, and my Vantage C240. I have been using them both for years and change the paste every 6-8 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    fellas, you're all right about the TIM but no body say anything about his lapped CPU and cooler.
    He said his temp got worse after lapped, 4c hotter and I think because I can't spread his paste.

    Ok, why don't you get MX-2 or MX-3 (see Grumppy's comments), do a thin line method right at the center of CPU from North to South. Install your H70 block, uninstall it check for its contacting surfaces, maybe you can take a picture and post it for us. This will tell you how good you did the lapping job or your cooler are.

    Deton, I did suggest a pea sized blob........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    change the paste every 6-8 months.
    Just like your undies! Every 6-8 months!



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    Well, since I was kind of in a pickle here, I ran to best buy and bought a tube of the Dynex brand they sell. It is a white "silver based" silicon gel.
    It spread out nice and thin under the pressure from the H70 water block mount, and is working a lot better than the failure I had going on, and a little better than stock.
    My application still kinda sucked, as I didn't get full coverage of the CPU, I'll work on it some more tomorrow.

    I'll research a little and order something better, but at least now I have a good sized tube of stuff to practice with.

    A couple of interesting things.
    My core #0 temp has always been the highest, and still is, but is better than before with everything stock.

    Before lapping the CPU, cores #1, 2, and 3 usually all ran significantly different temps under 100% load.
    After lapping the CPU flat, all 3 run at exactly the same temperature under 100% load, though still 2-3C cooler than core #0.

    When I first started lapping on the CPU, there was a pretty obvious raised spot in the heat spreader over where one end of the CPU die is. Lapping the CPU heat spreader down flat definitely helped even out the core temps.

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    i7's do not run the same temps on all cores. That is normal even with a lap job. The high and low can be as much as 8 degrees or so. Nothing to worry about.

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    Best comprehensive review of thermal compounds I have seen is here:

    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=150&Itemid=62

    Outstanding article and review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    i7's do not run the same temps on all cores. That is normal even with a lap job. The high and low can be as much as 8 degrees or so. Nothing to worry about.
    went out the other night and got a lap job and my temps went through the ceiling I thought I was going to have a stroke!

    Oh I'm sorry I was thinking of a different type of lap job!

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    LMAO. Where would we be without Vinny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinman View Post
    went out the other night and got a lap job and my temps went through the ceiling I thought I was going to have a stroke!

    Oh I'm sorry I was thinking of a different type of lap job!
    What was his name? Kip may be interested in the contact!

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