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    Default Over Clocking, do I have the right tools?

    Hello everyone! I have an Athlon II X3 455 that won't unlock the fourth core, so I guess it's time to focus on over clocking. Before my back went out I was a Welder. I took pride in my work and made sure I had the right tools for the job. Obviously, that carries over to anything else I put my time and effort into. Here's what I have so far - CPUZ, GPUZ, HwMonitor, CoreTemp, prime95, Unigine Heaven and of course AOD. I've done some reading here and at other sites like PUREOC, and came across some other app's, such as LinX and OCCT. Some of the threads where I found these at were a few years old, so I'd like to know if their worth using and/or is there anything else I should have in my "tool box"? As for the parts, even though the tech is old, the CPU, MB and Mem are a little more than a year old. Gfx I got 2 weeks ago. Power and sound are a few years old. I mention this because I prefer to use the most current and applicable "How To's" and other relevant information. One question about prime95 is it shows three types of tests at the start. Which is the primary test being used that I've been reading about in so many posts?
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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    Welcome to Pure OC, i am new to this as well, but what is listed are the same ones i was given/told to get, as far as ramping it up more, i am sure one of the more experienced ones will chime in soon and tell you if you are missing anything.

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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    I cant speak for anyone else and I am far from an expert, but I usually use pirme95 and run the custom test with my max FFT size at 8192mb. I have 12GB or RAM so that uses around 2/3 of it. I try to run it for an hour, some people do it a lot longer but I am not in it for max clocks and biggest epeen I just want great looking games running smoothly.
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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    It all comes down to what purpose you have to overclock. If yoou want a long term stable setup then I would say run linX to begin with as it is fast and does a good enough job to get you in the right ball park on voltages and it probably proves that your cooling is good enough as it gets your cpu hot. Once you get used to it you can also use a Kill-a-Watt meter at the same time and see how the well tuned setup uses power.

    Read more about it HERE

    For tuning memory I would suggest you get AIDA 64 which has good features.

    Prime95 is best used to prove your setup as it takes hours to really prove stable. CPUZ, GPUZ, HwMonitor, CoreTemp, and Unigine Heaven all have their place and are worth having in your toolbox

    Prime testing should start with blend and if stable for >12 hours try each of the others too.
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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    We shoukld be giving away at least 7 keycodes to AIDA 64 Extreme within the next 2 weeks !

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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    We shoukld be giving away at least 7 keycodes to AIDA 64 Extreme within the next 2 weeks !
    Count me in on that giveaway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    We should be giving away at least 7 keycodes to AIDA 64 Extreme within the next 2 weeks !
    That's great news Stan!
    A great program too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn97 View Post
    Count me in on that giveaway!
    Me too, mine timed out not long ago,..............

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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    It all comes down to what purpose you have to overclock. If yoou want a long term stable setup then I would say run linX to begin with as it is fast and does a good enough job to get you in the right ball park on voltages and it probably proves that your cooling is good enough as it gets your cpu hot. Once you get used to it you can also use a Kill-a-Watt meter at the same time and see how the well tuned setup uses power.

    Read more about it HERE

    For tuning memory I would suggest you get AIDA 64 which has good features.

    Prime95 is best used to prove your setup as it takes hours to really prove stable. CPUZ, GPUZ, HwMonitor, CoreTemp, and Unigine Heaven all have their place and are worth having in your toolbox

    Prime testing should start with blend and if stable for >12 hours try each of the others too.
    Agreed!

    Do start with LinX (or LinX based with just a differing UI) since it is quicker at identifying instability, although still takes a while. Adjust your overclock until you can successfully complete 10 passes.

    Then of course Prime95. You do this testing in addition to LinX because they can potentially discover instability that the other could miss - I have personally had that happen multiple times. The "Small FFT" test will generate maximum heat since it is processor focused. The "Blend" test is a mix of cpu and memory. As for how long to run Prime95 ... that has become controversial over recent years. Back around 2009 the rule of thumb was a minimum of 8 hours, with 8 to 10 being recommended, and 12+ being for extra high confidence. Whereas these days you'll find people who firmly believe that just 3 to 5 hours is sufficient ... which I think is a classic case of "you get what you pay for", since I've had Prime95 show failures in the 5 to 7 hour range. Guess it comes down to how much confidence you want in your overclock and the likelihood that it won't crash under the heaviest of loads.

    For memory, I used Memtest86; I have no experience with Aida 64 so can't comment on its qualities.
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    I will try to fill in the gaps then

    Among many other things, Aida64 will do some short sharp testing and show how the alterations you make to primary, secondary and tertiary memory timings effect the bandwidth. A super tool to use when chasing a good pi score.

    Memtest86, if you run it after you did all your tweaking, is perhaps better described as a stability test but for the memory sub-system alone.

    Incidentally, We tend to think of LinX being a fast test mainly because it is when compared to prime95 ...at least when running 8G ram. If you happen to use 32G it will be a whole different story
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    Default Re: The Right Tools for Over Clocking...

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I will try to fill in the gaps then

    Among many other things, Aida64 will do some short sharp testing and show how the alterations you make to primary, secondary and tertiary memory timings effect the bandwidth. A super tool to use when chasing a good pi score.

    Memtest86, if you run it after you did all your tweaking, is perhaps better described as a stability test but for the memory sub-system alone.

    Incidentally, We tend to think of LinX being a fast test mainly because it is when compared to prime95 ...at least when running 8G ram. If you happen to use 32G it will be a whole different story
    Ah! Thanks for the info, I'll add it to my tool collection.
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