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    Quote Originally Posted by P3RH4PS View Post
    Ok, well, it may be hard to tell but the A-05B actually has more room in the graphics card area because of it 's design (also won't have drive bays resting on top of SATA cables) it's just shorter.

    I don't mind either way I just wanted to note that. With the PC-61 I could easily just remove the drive bays and put them in the floppys like you said (is there a cool way to mount a fan in the three floppy panels for a bonus intake?). This would definitely open it up down there for the two 80mm front intake fans.

    As for the side of the case that mesh measures 120mmx180mm what fan setup do you recomend?

    Thanks so much for your help guys!!!
    The PC-61 have more option to add on fans, the other case (server) you have to do some drilling, hole cutting for the fan and the only place you can put it the side panel.

    For the current case, you don't have to add on the rear instake since you have two intake fans already (try to eliminate noise here).
    I think you can use one 120mm fan for the mesh area, I think it will fit two 80mm (side by side) but 2x80mm will generate moer noise than a single 120mm.

    Will 3 floppy drives bay fit a 80mm fan? If it is fit then you can put it in the front as an exhaust fan to draw hot air from the HD. Because you're already have 2 instakes right at the bottom. You just don't want any hot air flow to the MOBO any more.

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    wow . i just found out the CORE 2 QUAD Q9450 are only $365.00. i just ordered one. i can't wait till it gets to my house and in my maximus
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Hi There... I'm new to all this too and after a lot of reading I bought an ANTEC 900 case . Why? Because I have the option to mount the intake fans at different heights in the front panel and a seperate fan in the side too. They are all 120mm fans so mine are set to blow straight at the ram and cpu cooler, into the bottom of the case at the bottom pcie16 slot and into the side around the level of the sound card. however I've never seen 2 big graphics cards fitted so perhaps that would restrict flow (Anybody else Know?) Oh yes and there are two exhaust fans @ 120mm and 220mm. Hope this helps
    I have a 900 too and am quite pleased with it in combination with AMF and various other components in my sig. Apparently the looks are not for everyone, but my purchase was more about performance and it looks fine to me anyhow. My friend has a 900 as well and he has two 3870's in it that fit just fine. He even has 3 or 4 HD's in there. We both have the AMF, so you can rest assured that you could get all your hardware in the 900 if you chose to buy one.

    P3RH4PS - IMHO, you should put all that nice hardware in a more air-flow efficient case - all those components deserve it!
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    does anyone here use a thermaltake armor va8003. i just got it, and i hope it can keep my maximus cool, cause i don't plan on getting water cooling anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    P3RH4PS - IMHO, you should put all that nice hardware in a more air-flow efficient case - all those components deserve it!
    Actually, using Deton's advice I put a 120mm fan in the side grill of my case and removed the HD bay allowing the front intake fans some free-flowin action and my temps are down by 5-7C across the board. GPU are all around 55C, CPU at 16C MB 35C NB 42C and SB at 36C. This is just about right I think compared to most other people's temps. Given that the room temp in here is 75F and that I have minimal air cooling.

    What do you guys think?

    P.S. I have pictures. Should I post?

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    pictures are ALWAYS welcome, so do it.

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    In an earlier post I was concerned that my NB temp was above normal, even for air, so I was trying to figure out whether I was reading CPUID Hardware Monitor temps correctly for the AMF. I didn't end up finding any help - anywhere, not just here - so I installed ProbeII and found it and Hardware Monitor show the same information, but ProbeII labeled the various readouts in a more understandable manner. Temps were the same by either program for NB, SB, & mobo. ProbeII itself seems unstable, so I will rely on CPUID's Hardware Monitor for now.

    In the process I looked at the bios HW monitor and at ProbeII readouts for voltage and noticed that the auto setting had my NB voltage at 1.62v!! This seemed alarmingly high based on everyone's posted specs and comments so I turned it down to 1.5v and stress tested overnight with Orthos - thanks for all the link's Deton! It passed the test just fine. I'm going to try lower tonight. The NB temps had crept up to 52c at idle, don't know why, but they are back at 45c with the lower NB voltage.

    Here are specs to the next step being stress tested as I type:

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    South Bridge Voltage : Auto
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    Check out the results. It has only been going for a half hour, but I doubt it will fail after this long. I'll let you know tomorrow if it does. Mobo 38c, nb 44c, sb 40c, cores 44 & 45c. Haha, where will it end? This board rocks!

    [img=http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7047/fullloade655031ghzballikm1.th.jpg]
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    Quote Originally Posted by P3RH4PS View Post
    Actually, using Deton's advice I put a 120mm fan in the side grill of my case and removed the HD bay allowing the front intake fans some free-flowin action and my temps are down by 5-7C across the board. GPU are all around 55C, CPU at 16C MB 35C NB 42C and SB at 36C. This is just about right I think compared to most other people's temps. Given that the room temp in here is 75F and that I have minimal air cooling.
    Oooh, much better. However, I don't think you can have a 16c cpu with room temp at 75f. 75f is about 24c. Btw, I have the same strange temp fluctuations, but I'm on bios 0505. I am hesitant to update BIOS as some have reported problems with new bios. What do those of you who upgraded think of process and result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs2008 View Post
    wow . i just found out the CORE 2 QUAD Q9450 are only $365.00. i just ordered one. i can't wait till it gets to my house and in my maximus
    You're going have fun with this chip. I'm getting jealous here

    Quote Originally Posted by jrs2008 View Post
    does anyone here use a thermaltake armor va8003. i just got it, and i hope it can keep my maximus cool, cause i don't plan on getting water cooling anytime soon.
    You will be fine with this case, plenty of vents. Make sure keep all the wires/cables tidy away from the air flow bath.

    Quote Originally Posted by P3RH4PS View Post
    Actually, using Deton's advice I put a 120mm fan in the side grill of my case and removed the HD bay allowing the front intake fans some free-flowin action and my temps are down by 5-7C across the board. GPU are all around 55C, CPU at 16C MB 35C NB 42C and SB at 36C. This is just about right I think compared to most other people's temps. Given that the room temp in here is 75F and that I have minimal air cooling.

    What do you guys think?

    P.S. I have pictures. Should I post?
    Congrats on your little mod.
    I believe CPU at 16c is after cold boot idling and CPU is not at full stock speed. Because MOBO power down its speed if there are no work load demanding. Try to use CoreTemp or Everest, both pros do core reading.

    Yeah, feel free to post any mod pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    In an earlier post I was concerned that my NB temp was above normal, even for air, so I was trying to figure out whether I was reading CPUID Hardware Monitor temps correctly for the AMF. I didn't end up finding any help - anywhere, not just here - so I installed ProbeII and found it and Hardware Monitor show the same information, but ProbeII labeled the various readouts in a more understandable manner. Temps were the same by either program for NB, SB, & mobo. ProbeII itself seems unstable, so I will rely on CPUID's Hardware Monitor for now.

    In the process I looked at the bios HW monitor and at ProbeII readouts for voltage and noticed that the auto setting had my NB voltage at 1.62v!! This seemed alarmingly high based on everyone's posted specs and comments so I turned it down to 1.5v and stress tested overnight with Orthos - thanks for all the link's Deton! It passed the test just fine. I'm going to try lower tonight. The NB temps had crept up to 52c at idle, don't know why, but they are back at 45c with the lower NB voltage.

    Here are specs to the next step being stress tested as I type:

    North Bridge Voltage : 1.4v lower if you can but must stable though.
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.502v try go lower somewhere between 1.4v - 1.5v
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.07v --> 1.05v
    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Disabled
    you can enable these if you like after the system stable.

    Check out the results. It has only been going for a half hour, but I doubt it will fail after this long. I'll let you know tomorrow if it does. Mobo 38c, nb 44c, sb 40c, cores 44 & 45c. Haha, where will it end? This board rocks!

    [img=http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7047/fullloade655031ghzballikm1.th.jpg]
    I think you are on the right track, get it stable at the lowest as much you can. Those temps seem normal for air cooling. That's an overclocker rule of thumb (see the above green text).

    Tip: Maximus are more lightly fail if the NB temp above 50c. So keep it below that barrier at load.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    Oooh, much better. However, I don't think you can have a 16c cpu with room temp at 75f. 75f is about 24c. Btw, I have the same strange temp fluctuations, but I'm on bios 0505. I am hesitant to update BIOS as some have reported problems with new bios. What do those of you who upgraded think of process and result?
    No problem for me with the 0907.

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    oh Shoot!!! i just found my cpu in on back order, and the computer store won't get any Q9450 until the end of march.

    looks like i might have to get a celeron 420 for now.
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    @ Jrs2008, I know you're anxious to get this new rig going but why don't just wait? Save your hard earned $50, use this money to purchase a useful part for you new rig.

    Hey, just a though. It's your money you can do whatever you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    I believe CPU at 16c is after cold boot idling and CPU is not at full stock speed. Because MOBO power down its speed if there are no work load demanding. Try to use CoreTemp or Everest, both pros do core reading.
    Well, I left it idle all night (no standby or anything) the core temps are around 27-30C and CPU is around 19-21C.

    Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal is with temps being off, but my MB reading regularly jumps around without any change in load.

    P.S. I'll get the pics later tonight or tomorrow night. (My computer has screwed me on studying for finals lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3RH4PS View Post
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    What are you talking about?....you are learning something new everyday here
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    @ Deton

    Hey been playing around with OC'ing abit, i'm at 3.3ghz atm here is a screen of temps n such after 25min of Prime. Having problems with gettin my ram OC'd though, system won't boot when i go higher, its under 1000mhz atm so its under clocked :S

    Last edited by JCmoney; 13-02-2008 at 21:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCmoney View Post
    @ Deton

    Hey been playing around with OC'ing abit, i'm at 3.3ghz atm here is a screen of temps n such after 25min of Prime. Having problems with gettin my ram OC'd though, system won't boot when i go higher, its under 1000mhz atm so its under clocked :S

    did you get it stable at the current setting?
    can you post ram screening?
    what's the CAS, strap ...etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    did you get it stable at the current setting?
    can you post ram screening?
    what's the CAS, strap ...etc?
    Here r my current settings. Stable as in I ran prime for almost 30min and it was fine, needed to do stuff to give it more time to stress test, kinda want to get my ram up b4 i do a full stress. How do i up my ram its @ the highest settings atm with this config. And should I b worried about NB & SB being around the 50 C mark?

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