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    these boards look realy nice, i think i might build my next new rig with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yblad View Post
    these boards look realy nice, i think i might build my next new rig with one.
    Hopefully, I will gather enough information about this board and posted. It will eases up for new users if you are the first time Asus high end board users. Most of new users are overwhelming with the overclocking settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Hopefully, I will gather enough information about this board and posted. It will eases up for new users if you are the first time Asus high end board users. Most new users overwhelming with the overclocking settings.
    There is one feature that i was suprised the Maximus Formula didnt include and that was the "unlinked" mode in the BIOS where most nforce 680i & 780i chip has....it doesnt relay on the FSB to compute the Memory Speed...so you can set it independently of the FSB...which is one cool feature...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    There is one feature that i was suprised the Maximus Formula didnt include and that was the "unlinked" mode in the BIOS where most nforce 680i & 780i chip has....it doesnt relay on the FSB to compute the Memory Speed...so you can set it independently of the FSB...which is one cool feature...
    Have you try to set FSB Strap to Northbridge to AUTO? I think this will unlinked the divider, try it and let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Have you try to set FSB Strap to Northbridge to AUTO? I think this will unlinked the divider, try it and let me know.
    Just found an article ... you are spot on deton!

    "Particularly interesting is the ability to manually set the FSB strap to the north bridge. The settings available are 200MHz, 266MHz, 333MHz and Auto. In auto mode, the FSB strap will be set depending on the selected FSB frequency and the DRAM frequency. In turn, the DRAM frequencies available are determined by the FSB strap and the FSB frequency."

    source: http://www.hothardware.com/printarticle.aspx?articleid=1008
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    i love this board it does everything

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    Available by FSB Strap to NB (RAM:FS if you set it at AUTO
    • 200 - 2:1, 5:3
    • 266 - 2:1, 3:2, 5:4
    • 333 - 1:1, 2:1, 6:5, 8:5
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    Deton i've tried it... setting it to auto does not unlink the rams...Not too sure if my BIOS has any problems...could u try and let me know if yrs is able to unlink?

    When i set them to auto it just provides me with more dividers to choose
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Deton i've tried it... setting it to auto does not unlink the rams...Not too sure if my BIOS has any problems...could u try and let me know if yrs is able to unlink?

    When i set them to auto it just provides me with more dividers to choose
    No, it doesn't work the same as the other MOBO's unlinked setting.
    It works a like this;
    DRAM Frequency: Choose from those listed to set the system DDR memory frequency.
    Altering the FSB Frequency or FSB Strap to Northbridge settings will influence the selections available. Refer to the table above (previous posted) when targeting a specific memory speed.

    For example:
    if the 333 strap is selected with an FSB setting of 400 then the list would contain the following selection choices:
    • 2 x 400 FSB x 1/1 = DDR-800
    • 2 x 400 FSB x 6/5 = DDR-960
    • 2 x 400 FSB x 8/5 = DDR-1280
    • 2 x 400 FSB x 2/1 = DDR-1600
    Example#2:
    The 400 strap is selected with an FSB setting of 400 then the list would contain the following selction choices:
    • 2 x 400 FSB x 1/1 = DDR-800
    • 2 X 400 FSB x 2/1 = DDR-1600
    • 2 X 400 FSB x 3/2 = DDR-1200
    • 2 X 400 FSB x 4/3 = DDR-1066
    Bullydog: you want to max out your ram?
    Try these settings:
    • FSB Strap to NB - 400
    • DRAM FREQ - DDR-1066 (4:3 divider) Your ram will run 533mhz and 400mhz FSB
    Now do stability test, if you passed then tighten the timing up a little bit.

    For more RAM setting relate issue go here Overclocking Dire Help Needed Q6600


    RAM DEFINITION
    DDR:
    This stands for Double Date Rate and that means it doubles the bandwidth of the memory by transferring data twice as fast on both the rising and falling of the clock cycle.

    CAS (tCL):
    This stands for Column Address Strobe or Column Address Select and that essentially means the number of cycles for the memory to get information and then process that information. Also keep in mind that a lower CAS is much better than a higher CAS, so try and keep CAS as low as possible when overclocking.


    tRCD:
    This is the delay from the time a row is activated to when the cell (or column) is activated via the CAS signal and data can be written to or read from a memory cell. When memory is accessed sequentially, the row is already active and tRCD will not have much impact. However, if memory is not accessed in a linear fashion, the current active row must be deactivated and then a new row selected/activated. In such an example, low tRCD's can improve performance. However, like any other memory timing, putting this too low for the module can cause instability.

    tRP:
    RAS Precharge; the time required to switch from one row to the next row. For example: switching internal memory banks.

    tRAS:
    Memory architecture is like a spreadsheet with row upon row and column upon column, with each row being one bank. For the CPU to access memory, it first must determine which row or bank in the memory is to be accessed and then activate that row with the RAS signal. Once activated, the row can be accessed over and over, until the data is exhausted. This is why tRAS has little effect on overall system performance but could impact system stability if set incorrectly.


    tCLK:
    This is simply the clock used for the memory. Note that because frequency is 1/t, if memory were running at 100Mhz, the timing of the memory would be 1/100Mhz, or 10nS.

    EPP:
    This stands for Enhanced Performance Profiles and is a new approach that simplifies overclocking and ensures memory and platform compatibility. This technology was defined to utilize the extra space in the EEPROM to store memory configuration settings that are sufficient to optimize and maximize the performance of a memory module. It basically auto detects your motherboard's chipset and sets the memory timing accordingly. While EEP is nice, many overclockers will be manually adjusting their memory in the motherboard's BIOS.

    (ref: courtesy to Rodney Reynolds @ 3dgameman)
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    Are there any boards this nice made for amd's? This board is beautiful enough im considering a switch to intel, and cause... ive gone enthusiast level on everything except the CPU I think my next upgrade will be an intel processor unless amd can start pulling its weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Bullydog: you want to max out your ram?
    Try these settings:
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    • DRAM FREQ - DDR-1066 (4:3 divider) Your ram will run 533mhz and 400mhz FSB
    Now do stability test, if you passed then tighten the timing up a little bit.
    Yup im trying to max out my rams but as i've done so many test repeatedly to get stable @ 3.6ghz....i finally settled for 3.4ghz anything more i would require too much vcore and without water cooling i think i will eventually kill my chip...i need something like 1.56vcore to quad prime stable...

    But setting to 3.6ghz would be ideal as you mentioned i will be able to use 4:3 dividers to hit exactly 1066mhz...

    Since im settling for 3.4ghz (378x9) the closest dividers i use ends up 1007mhz 26mhz short of my Rams specs...the next closest dividers brings it up to approximately 1126mhz

    Think i can live with 1007mhz for now might find some time to try and do some memtest to see if i can pass on 1126mhz on 2.2Dram volts

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    well for me at least i am no where neer what my hardware can do. my ram is now running 1216mhz stable at stock voltage i think i can hit 1230-1250 stable stock voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Yup im trying to max out my rams but as i've done so many test repeatedly to get stable @ 3.6ghz....i finally settled for 3.4ghz anything more i would require too much vcore and without water cooling i think i will eventually kill my chip...i need something like 1.56vcore to quad prime stable...
    1.56v for 3.6ghz is kinda high event for water cooling. Unstable OC is could be a bad chip, PSU or RAM or HEAT

    What program did you use for stability test?

    Let try these settings:
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    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
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    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
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    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: 1066
    DRAM Command Rate : 
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
    CAS# Latency : stock
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : stock 
    RAS# Precharge : stock
    RAS# ActivateTime : stock
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
    Write Recovery Time : auto
    Read to Precharge Time : auto
     
    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
    Ai Clock Twister : light
    Transaction Booster : disabled
     
    CPU Voltage : 1.3875 up to 1.425v, don't go over 1.45v
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v up 1.6v 
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    DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
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    South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v 
    Loadline Calibration : enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : .63x
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    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : REF
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : REF
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DRR2-REF 
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v 
    NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
    Voltiminder LED : enabled
     
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    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
     
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    C1E Suppport : Disabled 
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    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
    Execute Disable Bit : enabled 
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 
    CPU, CPU PLL and NB voltages, you have to find the best voltages for these but don't go over the range I gave you.

    RAM latency: input stock rates for now

    Let me know the result.

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    i just did a RMA to my maximus formula the BIOS seems to always reset itself to default after i power off...never seems to hold my settings at all and moreover when i boot up it always tells me of a "Bad CMOS Checksum" i've given it enough chances after 2 days...even after doing multiple reflashes

    i decided to change it today....and now as i type i'm doing quad prime to my 4 cores and they look promising! i've lowered my vcore all the way to 1.38 @3400mhz... comparing to my previous board i had to use something like 1.43-1.48 to obtain 3400mhz....i hope this board reaps me the results after all the time i've placed on overclocking the past week and hope to reach my 3600mhz goal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by intex View Post
    Are there any boards this nice made for amd's? This board is beautiful enough im considering a switch to intel, and cause... ive gone enthusiast level on everything except the CPU I think my next upgrade will be an intel processor unless amd can start pulling its weight
    I don't think there are any, maybe not yet
    I know how you feel about AMD. They were king once. Intel has reclaimed their crown back.

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