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    yeah, I must say silly you let us know the result of crossfireX, if it's work then you will have a good performance boost for gaming but I heard it's still lag with Crysis

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    i picked up a new power supply PC and Power Cooling Silencer 750 watt crossfire edition. i got everything installed, i havn't done any testing yet cause my north bridge temp went up from 31 to 38. also my mb temps are way higher now. mb temp is now at 45.

    also the temps on my 3870x2 are fine, but the temps look a bit high on the new 3870. i think i am gonna try riva tuner to control fan speeds instead of asus smart doctor
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    i now have good temps on my video cards. but i am worried about the NB, MB and now even my SB temps went up to 45
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs2008 View Post
    i now have good temps on my video cards. but i am worried about the NB, MB and now even my SB temps went up to 45
    your temp went up to 45c from what temp?
    are you overclocking your rig at all?
    dont' forget, you just added another card and it produces at least 100w of heat (giving or take). You just put more stress to the MOBO, that's why you got higher temp now.

    I assume 45c is idle temp then your load temp will be over 50c mark. In that case you need to improve your case's air flow.

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    my temps are all good now. i added 2 extra fans to the inside of the case. my 3d mark score didn't change one bit with the new 3870, its pretty low cause of the E2180, but when i play games i notice a big difference. i think i am gonna have to invest in some water cooling soon , so i can do some serious overclocking
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    a faster CPU also helps you to archive high score with 3DMark06, I hope your E2180 can keep up with the triple 3870. It's good to hear that you have no problem with CCCT 8.3.

    I'm waiting for the next gen of HD3870 X2, around spring or summer this year to go for xfire X.

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    Crysis 1.2 = no more lag. I installed the 1.2 patch and I'm checking it out in-game happy as can be with no lag and I go to try and crank it up and realized that all the settings were already on very high. w00t. So that combined with Cat 8.3 has made the whole Crysis experience fun again.

    So new question: I've ran 8+ hours of OCCT and a full memtest without any problems, but occasionally I'll still have some sort of freeze happen on my system. Never under exact same circumstances, but they do happen. I'm just wondering (since I've never overclocked before) if there's such thing as a 100% stable overclock or if these random problems could just be blamed on Vista or what?

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    I've finally broken down and decided to upgrade my 5 year old machine, and, by proxy, I'll happen to become inductee to the Maximus Formula club.

    Because I don't upgrade my computer as frequently as I would like, I decided to go with a quad-core processor (Q6600). I realise that they are currently artificially limited by the lack of programs that take advantage of the quad-core architecture, but I figured that by the time I'm upgrading again that it would be the standard. However, in order to get a quad-core, I've had to cut back significantly on speed. Which in turn lead me to this forum! I consider myself to be somewhat 'average' when it comes to computers: I can build my own machine, and I'd like to think that I can make fairly informed google-searches to find advice on decent parts and guides (such as flashing a bios, etc.), but that is my limit.. I have yet to take a dip into the overclocking deep-end; I've always been intimidated at doing anything that could cause my computer to burst into flame (an over-exaggeration, right? .... right?)

    Thus, in about a week or so I'll be making hourly visits to this thread and frantically spamming (hopefully with passable grammar: I had to confirm that I can write proper english about 15 times when registering) for basic advice and how-tos. I've got about 15 different sites book-marked currently, so I'll try to refrain from asking anything that has been covered ad-nausium elsewhere.

    For now, I'm sheepishly browsing the net looking for any sort of how-to-guide on removing the default chipset heatsinks so that I can apply some after market cooling. I've read several places that the factory set up on the north and south bridge chips is insufficient for overclocking. I'm a bit worried about space-constraints within my case currently, so I decided to opt for replacing the factory default cooling adhesive with Arctic Silver. Does anyone have any hints or tips? Pardon if it has already been covered in this thread... I read through the first 10 pages and didn't see anything specific.

    Also, sorry for the lengthy post. I just ordered the parts for my computer off of new-egg and I think I'm dousing you with collateral enthusiasm.

    Thanks for the help, and also, if I could hop on tomorrow morning and see a couple posts reassuring me that my computer will not melt to slag when I try to bump it over 3ghz I'd be very appreciative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rake View Post
    ....always been intimidated at doing anything that could cause my computer to burst into flame (an over-exaggeration, right? .... right?)
    unless you really really really over voltage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rake View Post
    For now, I'm sheepishly browsing the net looking for any sort of how-to-guide on removing the default chipset heatsinks so that I can apply some after market cooling. I've read several places that the factory set up on the north and south bridge chips is insufficient for overclocking.
    it's not true. You still be able to overclock with Asus's NB heatsinks, if you want a better cooling then you can replace it with the aftermarket cooler. When you have a better cooling you can push the OC a little bit further. It's all depend on your overclocking goal is, and your goal only 3Ghz then you have no issues with stock heatsinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rake View Post
    I'm a bit worried about space-constraints within my case currently, so I decided to opt for replacing the factory default cooling adhesive with Arctic Silver. Does anyone have any hints or tips? Pardon if it has already been covered in this thread... I read through the first 10 pages and didn't see anything specific.

    Also, sorry for the lengthy post. I just ordered the parts for my computer off of new-egg and I think I'm dousing you with collateral enthusiasm.

    Thanks for the help, and also, if I could hop on tomorrow morning and see a couple posts reassuring me that my computer will not melt to slag when I try to bump it over 3ghz I'd be very appreciative.
    the reason you didn't see any guide for remove NB heatsink because it's not that hard to do it and most of members on here don't bother do it because they have not problem with its cooling. As I said if you want a better cooling then you can replace it with aftermarket cooler or reapply a better thermal paste.

    Don't worry too much about killing your new machine, the Maximus board will handles everything you throw at it.

    If you're only want only 3Ghz overclocking then why don't you use Asus's preset overclocking settings. The board will taking care everything for you, so you don't have to worry about a thing.

    Tip: Remove NB heatsink - unscrew all the screw and gently wiggle the heatsink in a twisting fashion, if you find it a little bit hard to come off then don't force it yanking it off or you will be sorry. Be patient, keep wiggle it until it come off (it easier to come off when if firt out of the box then it has been used). I think you know what to do after it come off, don't you?

    If you decide to replace it with the aftermarket then you have to replace the NB & SB altogether because it is a one unit. However, you can reuse the MOFFEST heatsinks. I think you are already know about this.

    Good luck and welcome!

    Quote Originally Posted by P3RH4PS View Post
    So new question: I've ran 8+ hours of OCCT and a full memtest without any problems, but occasionally I'll still have some sort of freeze happen on my system. Never under exact same circumstances, but they do happen. I'm just wondering (since I've never overclocked before) if there's such thing as a 100% stable overclock or if these random problems could just be blamed on Vista or what?
    it crash while playing games or what?
    try to use Prime95 to do stress test and do a little longer this time to see what the result is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    it crash while playing games or what?
    try to use Prime95 to do stress test and do a little longer this time to see what the result is.
    Total freezes while gaming... and in a couple other situations. It just seems... less than stable.

    I'll try Prime95 and see what I come up with. Thanks!

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    Hey deton et al, Truth be told what I've just read is way above my head so may I bring your attention to this:

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580

    on a scale of one to ten the risk factor is......????

    How long until that bios is up to maximus standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Hey deton et al, Truth be told what I've just read is way above my head so may I bring your attention to this:

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580

    on a scale of one to ten the risk factor is......????

    How long until that bios is up to maximus standard?
    Yeah, I've read that thread couple days ago and never thought of it again. You ask me why?...because it's too risky, if you flash that BIOS to your Maximus board then no LOOK BACK. It is one way street!

    "Not so good things

    With my current knowledge and tools this mod cannot be reverted without replacing the soldered bios chip or programming the chip thru SPI interface with a programmer.

    The 3 year warranty will be void.

    Asus Rampage Formula bios versions are still in beta stage.
    If you find some problems in them you need to wait for a new release."

    There're too many crazy dues on that forum, they only go to the extreme.
    Definetly, I'm not going to toast my $300(almost) MOBO and money don't growth on tree where I live . Also there are no evidence that bios is better than the Maximus. Only few minor options for tweaking memory.

    "Good things

    Many new memory related timings:

    DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A
    DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B

    Write to Precharge Delay (tWTPD)
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    More precise performance level adjust:
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    Pull-In of CHA PH1
    Pull-In of CHA PH2
    Pull-In of CHB PH1
    Pull-In of CHB PH2
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    I don't think this bios is going to replace the Maximus bios. This is a leaked beta bios, that guy got his hands on it and messing around with it. Perhaps Asus is working on a new version of Maximus board???

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    Yep, as I thought, high risk low gain. just wondered if you had seen.
    You definately have to search that site to find any mention of the word "stable"

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    Building a new system from the ground up and chose to try this motherboard. It'll be a week or so before I'm ready to put power to it, some parts still on the way. Here are my specs so far:

    System components:
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    OS will be XP Pro 32 bit


    Cooling system components (in loop order):
    XSPC 5.25" Bay Reservoir - Black
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    Swiftech Apogee GTX Extreme
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    First bit of advice I could use would be whether I should flash to 0907 or the new/beta 1004. According to a file on my support CD I currently have the original bios version which will not support my CPU. I do have a supported Celeron chip too in case I can't even get to "flashability" with the e8400.

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    i love the new catalyst 8.3 drivers. i just used catalyst install manager to remove the old 8.2 drivers and it worked perfect.

    i picked up a eah3870 today to crossfire with my eah 3870x2. i was so excited to get that card in my computer that i forgot to get a bigger power supply. i guess ill get a bigger power supply tonight or tomorrow.
    i just bought a 3870x2 and i must say the catalyst 8.3 was disappointing though somehow it doesnt work well with the 3870x2 series cards there are a couple of guys on the ATI Raedon forums having the same issues with a major performance hit using catalyst 8.3

    i had something like a 4k drop in 3dmark06 despite uninstalling and re-installing like 5 times in a row and when i reverted back to 8.2 my scores just remained at 18k

    i just had the card for 1 day though didnt have the time to run a test between 8.2 and 8.3 in games but as for now i might stay with 8.2 till 8.4 is released
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    mabe vista is better for the 8.3 drivers. as soon as i downloaded those drivers i was playing crysis and other games all day long.
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