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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim View Post
    when i got my pc it had by mistake striker 2 formula INSTALLED ON ???
    i am not an experienced pc-user to know the diferences of these two mobos but i went mad with my seller-a big brand store- and changed it in no time....for the history now was i wright to do that or i should except my karma?!@...night thoughts.....
    How much did U pay for the board?
    Maximus Formular is cheaper than Striker II Formula. Maximus is Intel X38 chipset (Crossfire) and Striker II Formula is Nvidia 780i chipset (SLI). Striker is a good board too but it's all up to you which one you want to keep.

    It might be a missed communication between you and the shop, I think.

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    Captain's log day6: i believe after the research i made and your help here that the problem focuses at the thermal cleaning of NB and SB -as zalman do great job with cpu-.8800GTX will cool down from 75C idle if the other chips and overal motherboard temp go down.....i thikk......the problem now.....i know nothing about thermal paste and using it ......

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    Sorry it took so long to get some updated pics. Just received my speaker cover to finish off the case and protect the Thermalright cooler. Cover is well made, metal and looks similar to the color of the case so very happy. At least it cleans up the hole and actually looks nice when fired up cause the blue light actually gives a bit of glow through the grill.






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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim View Post
    Captain's log day6: i believe after the research i made and your help here that the problem focuses at the thermal cleaning of NB and SB -as zalman do great job with cpu-.8800GTX will cool down from 75C idle if the other chips and overal motherboard temp go down.....i thikk......the problem now.....i know nothing about thermal paste and using it ......
    Depends which Gigabyte Aurora case model you have - one appears to have no side vent in the Newegg pictures - but a side fan has done wonders for my GPU temps since I put one in my case. GPU at load dropped 10-15c. I remember earlier in this thread that P3RH4PS had great success reducing NB, MB, & SB temps with a side fan mod to case. He has since switced to an Antec 900 though. It has nice clips for a 120mm fan on case side panel, but I bet a few black zipties would hold one to the mesh, just like he had going before.

    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim
    I have a 5days new maximus system and temperatures are high i think...with little case-work and the new bios my temps idle and not overclocked are:

    q6600 2.4mhz: 29C
    maximus: 50C
    sb: 49C
    nb: 48C
    Your idle temps, other than CPU, are pretty high considering no OC. What voltages and other settings are you running in BIOS? Try posting in same format as below.

    Not a huge improvement over previous postings, but this is my lastest OC success (Orthos stable 8+ hours):

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    Extreme Tweaker 
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
    FSB Frequency : 472
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto (sets on 333)
    PCI-E Frequency: 110
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2 - 944
    DRAM Command Rate : Auto (sets to 2T)
    DRAM Timing Control: Auto 
    CAS# Latency : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# Precharge : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# ActivateTime : Auto (sets to 18)
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
    Write Recovery Time : Auto
    Read to Precharge Time : Auto
    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister : Auto
    Transaction Booster : Auto
     
    CPU Voltage : 1.3750 ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.34 idle, 1.31 load
    CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.5
    DRAM Voltage : 2.16v ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 2.22
    FSB Termination Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.55
    South Bridge Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.07
    Loadline Calibration : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference : Auto
    North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
    SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.52
    Voltiminder LED : Enbled
    NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
    CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto 
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
     
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    CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
    C1E Suppport : Disabled 
    CPU TM Function : Enabled 
    Vanderpool Technology : Enabled 
    Execute Disable Bit : Enabled 
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 
     
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    USB Functions: Enabled 
    Legacy USB Support : Auto
    Temps idle/load in celcius: CPU 25/39, NB 45/47, MB 32/35, SB 39/42, Core 1&2 31/47

    I was stoked to get the E6550 to 3.3Ghz, but it seems I had to turn down the DRAM speed to get there. Guess it isn't a big deal as performance is just a bit better in 3dmark '06 and seemingly in COD4 (I can only judge on feel as I have no FPS count prog & there isn't an in game one). There just aren't enough low-end RAM dividers to get my DRAM near spec of 1066mhz, the next one up is like 1133+mhz and my system doesn't seem to like this setting, even with crazy DRAM volts.
    Last edited by Rosco; 16-03-2008 at 17:30. Reason: formatting sucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    Sorry it took so long to get some updated pics. Just received my speaker cover to finish off the case and protect the Thermalright cooler. Cover is well made, metal and looks similar to the color of the case so very happy. At least it cleans up the hole and actually looks nice when fired up cause the blue light actually gives a bit of glow through the grill.
    NICE WORK! Looks so professional, like it came OEM that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Actually no, had the whole thing on it's side on the table and my wrist strap connected to earth pin of plug in mains socket.
    Will removing button-cell on MB clear cmos?
    PSU switch? I thought so but.......
    Hope you are doing better since post, but thought I might be able to help some if not. When I got my second set of DRAM, I was having trouble getting same OC as before to work. Started messing around in BIOS and then it wouldn't post at all - kept getting DET DRAM on LCD poster . Clear CMOS button did not seem to work . Had to take out MB battery, unplug everything from MB, and leave for a few hours to get CMOS to clear. Huge PITA but also fun to dismember & clean out for an AR freak like me . Finally got to post w/ 1 set of RAM then put other back in and it has been fine since.

    Hope that helps, seems some in other forums had trouble clearing CMOS on the AMF too - it was their procedure that worked for me as described above. From what I read, I don't think this is unique to the AMF by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim View Post
    .....the problem now.....i know nothing about thermal paste and using it ......
    the most propular paste is AS5, go here to find out more info and how to applying guide http://www.articsilver.com/

    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    Sorry it took so long to get some updated pics. Just received my speaker cover to finish off the case and protect the Thermalright cooler. Cover is well made, metal and looks similar to the color of the case so very happy. At least it cleans up the hole and actually looks nice when fired up cause the blue light actually gives a bit of glow through the grill.





    Good work, indeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    I was stoked to get the E6550 to 3.3Ghz, but it seems I had to turn down the DRAM speed to get there. Guess it isn't a big deal as performance is just a bit better in 3dmark '06 and seemingly in COD4 (I can only judge on feel as I have no FPS count prog & there isn't an in game one). There just aren't enough low-end RAM dividers to get my DRAM near spec of 1066mhz, the next one up is like 1133+mhz and my system doesn't seem to like this setting, even with crazy DRAM volts.
    Are there any reason, why you're still using bios 0505?
    Have you try with only 2gigs of ram (2 sticks)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    Had to take out MB battery, unplug everything from MB, and leave for a few hours to get CMOS to clear. Huge PITA but also fun to dismember & clean out for an AR freak like me . Finally got to post w/ 1 set of RAM then put other back in and it has been fine since....
    That's one way to do it, the olden days you have to remove the battery and reset the jumpers. If the reset button didn't work then go back to the basic method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    ..... Clear CMOS button did not seem to work . Had to take out MB battery, unplug everything from MB, and leave for a few hours to get CMOS to clear. Huge PITA but also fun to dismember & clean out for an AR freak like me . Finally got to post w/ 1 set of RAM then put other back in and it has been fine since.

    Hope that helps, seems some in other forums had trouble clearing CMOS on the AMF too - it was their procedure that worked for me as described above. From what I read, I don't think this is unique to the AMF by any means.
    Rosco thanks guy, I'll try it because up to now nothing else has.

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    Well, Maximus Formula owners. Please meet the Maximus's sibbling, the Rampage Formula.X48 chipset and DRR2, full review for your reading pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Well, Maximus Formula owners. Please meet the Maximus's sibbling, the Rampage Formula.X48 chipset and DRR2, full review for your reading pleasure.
    Just when you think your out, they pull you back in,,lol.

    I'm very happy with my Maximus Formula SE, I feel like a little kid with this new computer. I know I could probably squeeze more power out of it but It's so reliable.

    This is such a good thread and site, very helpful. Just wish I had more time to play with it. Thanks for the compliments on the cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Are there any reason, why you're still using bios 0505?
    Well, I don't think I'm having any problems not related to user inexperience, and I have never read ANYTHING bad on the 0505 bios while most every other bios revision has at least a few horror stories posted about it. Not to mention so many conflicting accounts on how to do it in a way that works - every success story has at least two counterpart failure stories from what I have read. That, and I've never updated a mobo bios before so I'm a bit apprehensive to have my first go on my expensive, fast, and currently stable AMF. I don't think I have heard anyone tout the new bios revisions as performing better when they didn't have serious problems with the earlier versions, but I have been working a lot lately and haven't had as much time to read up. Do the more current bios revisions do more than fix problems, do they improve overclockability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Have you try with only 2gigs of ram (2 sticks)?
    Well, I can do 1100mhz w/ 2 sticks, but still not 1133mhz+ which is the next step in the bios. There just aren't many viable DRAM speed options when your FSB is at 472mhz. From the testing I have done, which might just barely qualify as scientific, performance is better with 4 at 944mhz than with 2 at 1066mhz because of the difference in the CPU speed - and, you know, having twice as much ram.

    That said, DAAANNNGGG - I can hardly wait for the new mainstream 45nm Intels to come out here in the states. 8 or 9 times multiplier here I come!!! Yeah, I know there is more to be had, but my budget has NO room for a $1,000 CPU - a $500 one may be out of reach too. I may even have to settle for another C2D, but that E8500 looks like a good consolation prize.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    That's one way to do it, the olden days you have to remove the battery and reset the jumpers. If the reset button didn't work then go back to the basic method.
    There are no jumpers on the AMF, right? That would be embarassing.

    I can't really think of a good reason to put one these in my posts, so this is just cause it makes me laugh when I see it:
    Last edited by Rosco; 17-03-2008 at 02:22. Reason: add more!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    There are no jumpers on the AMF, right? That would be embarassing.
    No jumpers for Maximus, that's why CMOS reset button is there for.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    That said, DAAANNNGGG - I can hardly wait for the new mainstream 45nm Intels to come out here in the states. 8 or 9 times multiplier here I come!!! Yeah, I know there is more to be had, but my budget has NO room for a $1,000 CPU - a $500 one may be out of reach too. I may even have to settle for another C2D, but that E8500 looks like a good consolation prize.
    Quad 45nm is available by the end of March and my local retailers is taking the pre-order now.
    If you're thinking to go with the E8500 ($302) then you might get Q9300.

    Here is my local prices:
    Q9300 - 2.50Ghz $304
    Q9450 - 2.66Ghz $356
    Q9550 - 2.83Ghz $576

    Have you look on the eBay? I saw a QX9650 going for around $600-$700, instead of $1100 (regular price). It makes me droooooooooooll.

    Nahhh, I'm waiting for the mainstream Quad instead. It has better value and can overclock like crazy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    Just when you think your out, they pull you back in,,lol.

    I'm very happy with my Maximus Formula SE, I feel like a little kid with this new computer. I know I could probably squeeze more power out of it but It's so reliable.
    I know what you mean. X48 is only minor improvement (performance) from the X38. It's native supports 1600FSB.

    With the X48 released than the X38's boards will dropping prices, this is a good news for consumers. However, I heard the rummor that Asus is stop making Maximus Formula (click here to read) because of the Rampage Formula?


    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    This is such a good thread and site, very helpful. Just wish I had more time to play with it. Thanks for the compliments on the cover.
    Glad you find it usefull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    Depends which Gigabyte Aurora case model you have - one appears to have no side vent in the Newegg pictures - but a side fan has done wonders for my GPU temps since I put one in my case. GPU at load dropped 10-15c. I remember earlier in this thread that P3RH4PS had great success reducing NB, MB, & SB temps with a side fan mod to case. He has since switced to an Antec 900 though. It has nice clips for a 120mm fan on case side panel, but I bet a few black zipties would hold one to the mesh, just like he had going before.



    Your idle temps, other than CPU, are pretty high considering no OC. What voltages and other settings are you running in BIOS? Try posting in same format as below.

    Not a huge improvement over previous postings, but this is my lastest OC success (Orthos stable 8+ hours):

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    Extreme Tweaker 
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
    FSB Frequency : 472
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto (sets on 333)
    PCI-E Frequency: 110
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2 - 944
    DRAM Command Rate : Auto (sets to 2T)
    DRAM Timing Control: Auto 
    CAS# Latency : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# Precharge : Auto (sets to 5)
    RAS# ActivateTime : Auto (sets to 18)
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
    Write Recovery Time : Auto
    Read to Precharge Time : Auto
    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister : Auto
    Transaction Booster : Auto
     
    CPU Voltage : 1.3750 ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.34 idle, 1.31 load
    CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.5
    DRAM Voltage : 2.16v ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 2.22
    FSB Termination Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.55
    South Bridge Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.07
    Loadline Calibration : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference : Auto
    North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
    SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto ----> HWMonitor/PCProbeII read 1.52
    Voltiminder LED : Enbled
    NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
    CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto 
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
     
    Advanced CPU Configuration 
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
    C1E Suppport : Disabled 
    CPU TM Function : Enabled 
    Vanderpool Technology : Enabled 
    Execute Disable Bit : Enabled 
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 
     
    USB Configuration 
    USB Functions: Enabled 
    Legacy USB Support : Auto
    Temps idle/load in celcius: CPU 25/39, NB 45/47, MB 32/35, SB 39/42, Core 1&2 31/47

    I was stoked to get the E6550 to 3.3Ghz, but it seems I had to turn down the DRAM speed to get there. Guess it isn't a big deal as performance is just a bit better in 3dmark '06 and seemingly in COD4 (I can only judge on feel as I have no FPS count prog & there isn't an in game one). There just aren't enough low-end RAM dividers to get my DRAM near spec of 1066mhz, the next one up is like 1133+mhz and my system doesn't seem to like this setting, even with crazy DRAM volts.

    its too bad that i have aurora case with acrylic transparent side with NO fan...so my 50C idletemp for almost every part-sb,nb,mobotemp-looks unbeatable for the moment.....but the case has water-cooling-system holes in the back ad i am thinking........except if i find a side panel-door with fan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim View Post
    its too bad that i have aurora case with acrylic transparent side with NO fan...so my 50C idletemp for almost every part-sb,nb,mobotemp-looks unbeatable for the moment.....but the case has water-cooling-system holes in the back ad i am thinking........except if i find a side panel-door with fan!
    why don't you do a quick cheap mod by cutting a hole to install a new side fan? Acrylic is easy to cut, all you need a jig saw or Dremel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_sim View Post
    its too bad that i have aurora case with acrylic transparent side with NO fan...so my 50C idletemp for almost every part-sb,nb,mobotemp-looks unbeatable for the moment.....but the case has water-cooling-system holes in the back ad i am thinking........except if i find a side panel-door with fan!
    My Aurora came with both a vented and acrylic side panel so they definitely exist. Maybe you can find someone that got both like I did but isn't using the vented one...

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    Question RAM recommendations?

    Hi guys, still building, haven't put mobo in case yet, still working on cooling system. System will be Maximus Formula, e8400, 8800 GTS, water cooled, running XP Pro 32 bit. I hope to OC to approx 4.0 with a bit of luck.

    I've been spending some time, maybe too much, on the Asus support forums lately. Reading the posts over there might give the impression that this board is extremely picky about RAM. Of course I bought my RAM before I heard this. Now I am a bit concerned over my choice.

    I bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220241 , Patriot Extreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1G 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1200 (PC2 9600) Dual Channel Kit. Has anyone successfully used this RAM on a Maximus Formula? If no, is there anything about it to make you think it won't fly? I notice its not on Asus' approved list.

    If its likely to be a problem I would rather return it unopened and get new now rather than after opening this and finding it won't work then having to wait, RMA etc. Can you please recommend good RAM that is known to work well with this board if you think this stuff won't cut it?

    Last question- XP max RAM is 3 Gig. I've heard 2 versions of whether installing 4 G is ok. One version says XP just ignores the extra, the other says it causes issues and installing 2 G is better. Thoughts on this?

    Thanks guys!


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