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    Default Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Hey guys, just signed up to the forum because I'm stumped. Hopefully somebody can help me out. A friend of mine just gave me an MSI PH67S-C43 (B3) motherboard with an H67 chipset, and I just can't get this thing to go any higher than 3.8ghz with a K-model i7. I know it's frequently asked, but yes, I am certain beyond the shadow of a doubt that this is a K-model. It's printed on the chip, the BIOS reads it as K-model and even shows that it's unlocked, and CPU-Z will also report that it's a K-model.

    Now I think the problem is the BIOS version. It's currently running version 6.0, and per MSI's page it's only recommended if you're running an Ivy Bridge core. Obviously in this scenario I am not. I attempted to revert to the non-ivy BIOS, version 2.7, but it tells me that there is a ROM mismatch. I assume this new 6.x BIOS updates something else like the ME, so I'm kind of lost on how to revert it back. Any ideas?

    Also, just to disclose my background a little, I have been overclocking since the 90's. My first successfully overclocked system was an Intel Pentium 200 MMX running at blazing 250mhz on an 83mhz bus using an Intel TX chipset. I've since had many many overclocked systems (and overclocked smartphones and tablets), so I'm no stranger to the game. My last system was an Intel Core 2 Q6600 (P35 chipset) that ran stable at 3.6ghz, so I may just be a little outdated on all of these new LGA 1155 board BIOS settings. Could there be a setting in there that's preventing me from bringing the multiplier above 38? I feel confident I should be able to run this chip ~4.5ghz with the cooling I have.

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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Are you saying that you cannot enable "adjust CPU ratio" in Bios?

    I am on a different MSI board entirely but there is a setting in bios that selects whether you change settings in BIOS or from within a PROGRAM
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Are you saying that you cannot enable "adjust CPU ratio" in Bios?

    I am on a different MSI board entirely but there is a setting in bios that selects whether you change settings in BIOS or from within a PROGRAM
    No, I can adjust the ratio in the BIOS, but I can't set it any higher than 38. This is an unlocked chip, so it should be able to go all the way to 57, right?

    I tried enabling the setting to allow the OS to change the ratio, but the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility will only let me go as high as 38 on the multiplier too.

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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    I think I get it now ....higher than 38 is just not there.

    Hmmmm You got me there I may have to read up a bit but I am tempted to say you may need to re-seat your cpu after blowing out the socket with air and checking the pins and cleaning the cpu.

    Re: bios version .....all later revisions should retain the ability to run older cpu's properly.

    Edit: I guess you already tried clr cmos and load optimised settings?
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I think I get it now ....higher than 38 is just not there.

    Hmmmm You got me there I may have to read up a bit but I am tempted to say you may need to re-seat your cpu after blowing out the socket with air and checking the pins and cleaning the cpu.

    Re: bios version .....all later revisions should retain the ability to run older cpu's properly.

    Edit: I guess you already tried clr cmos and load optimised settings?
    I don't think the CPU socket is the problem. I've read a little and this seems to happen on other MSI boards. What I believe I need to do is revert the bios to an older version and I should be fine, but I have no idea how to do that. The flash utility won't downgrade to anything lower than 6.0.

    Yeah, I've cleared the CMOS, tried a couple different versions of this 6.x BIOS, nothing seems to get it to go above 38. I'm gonna play around with it some more and see what I come up with.

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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    How about using M-Flash and running from the stick ??
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    How about using M-Flash and running from the stick ??
    I tried booting the 2.7 BIOS from the stick, but it never posted. In doing a little more research will this H67 chipset even OC past the turbo multiplier? Looks like I might need a P67 or Z68 chipset.

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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    I am no expert and this may be a stupid question but have your tried changing it to 38 x 106
    or 21 x 200 or is that even possible?
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Welcome to our forums. Glad you stopped by to ask for help.

    The biggest problem your facing is the "H" series chipset. It is not made for overclocking and it is VERY limited in this regard. Intel did this on purpose to stop these board from becoming Gamer and Enthusiast systems. The "H" series specialty is the amount and type of Video outputs for work related task compared to the "P" series which does not make use of the IGP and has no video outputs on board. Instead the P series uses up to 2 PCIe slots for Xfire and SLI. The P series was made for gamers and can overclock much better then the H series. The Z series is of course the Best of the series and can do everything you want to do with it.

    Basically you will never get a good overclock with this board. It has been crippled from the start by Intel. If you want to get the most from the "K" series chip you need to invest the proper chipset/board. Move up to the "P" series with a discrete GPU or Z series.
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    I didn't even notice that
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    Default Re: Can't get past a 38 multiplier on MSI board with an i7-2600K

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I didn't even notice that

    Dont you hate that. Happens to me all the time. The answer is sitting right in front of you!
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