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    Yeah would be nice but his last activity was : 28-09-2008 22:37

    soo i dont think it will happen soon..... I've PM'd him to pop in and have a chat... we'll see

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    Hey guys, long time no see.
    With college and work I just don't have much time to read forums.
    I do check my email, though

    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    Hi guys !

    look what i found:



    found on:

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-...ews-29460.html

    so according to those tables tj max of my cpu is 90 ( not 95, or 100) and therefore when i changed those details in everest my temps are:



    Intel has released these numbers about a month or two ago.
    Some of them make no sense what so ever.
    I'm thinking of adding a few adjustments to the next Core Temp release, but nothing like what they're showing in their documents, as that would be a bit too optimistic. From my tests most of those values are just plain wrong, as it is easy to see that with 80C tjmax on the quads many CPUs will be running way under ambient temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coolest View Post
    .........see that with 80C tjmax on the quads many CPUs will be running way under ambient temperature.
    as I said in previous couple posts back, the QX9770 have 85c Tjmax and 95c for QX9650, 10c different :confused:. So if we set the Tjmax in any Temp monitor software which it shows QX9770 will run cooler than QX9650, don't make sense at. We are lost here, that is why we need you expertise input.

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    QX9770 is a highest rated high-end part Intel currently producing.
    This chip has a high TDP, and these kinds of processors are usually have lower maximum temperature ratings.
    I'm not sure how well the sensors on these chips are callibrated (they're very poor on many 45nm Core2 based chips) but in theory you should not see a big/any difference in temperature between a QX9650 and a QX9770. The DTS is supposed to be callibrated according to it's TjMax value, otherwise the thermal protection it is supposed to provide will not kick in in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coolest View Post
    QX9770 is a highest rated high-end part Intel currently producing.
    This chip has a high TDP, and these kinds of processors are usually have lower maximum temperature ratings.
    I'm not sure how well the sensors on these chips are callibrated (they're very poor on many 45nm Core2 based chips) but in theory you should not see a big/any difference in temperature between a QX9650 and a QX9770. The DTS is supposed to be callibrated according to it's TjMax value, otherwise the thermal protection it is supposed to provide will not kick in in time.

    so what I understand from that is the fact that Tj MAX is somehow implemented into every single chip??? If so how the heck we can retrive it????

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    The sensors get callibrated depending on the CPU model. So they callibrate the sensors in a way so that at around 85c the DTS reports 0, the #PROCHOT flag is tripped and processor should start throttling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coolest View Post
    The sensors get callibrated depending on the CPU model. So they callibrate the sensors in a way so that at around 85c the DTS reports 0, the #PROCHOT flag is tripped and processor should start throttling.
    Welcome back ! I guess your home on vacation. I have noticed the the sensors on the core i7 line work better than the QX 9650 which were always sticking, or just not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Welcome back ! I guess your home on vacation. I have noticed the the sensors on the core i7 line work better than the QX 9650 which were always sticking, or just not working.
    yeah I've notice that, my Q9650 has from 10 - 14 moments for each core. I though the block didn't get even mount until I checked the sensor moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Welcome back ! I guess your home on vacation. I have noticed the the sensors on the core i7 line work better than the QX 9650 which were always sticking, or just not working.
    Yes, Intel has improved the quality and accuracy of the DTS in the i7 series by a lot. I already saw motherboards that report the distance to TjMax in the BIOS itself, in my eyes that's a sign that Intel is going to use the DTS as an official way to monitor CPU temperature.
    Last edited by The Coolest; 02-01-2009 at 05:54.

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    ok reviving old thread!

    I got my hand on newer version of everest and in there my TJmax is set to 90 degrees as automatic.....so maybe those tables where right somewhat

    the version of everest is 5.02,175

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