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    Hey overclockers i need your help
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    Bought this cpu 2 weeks ago and i didnt get any stable OC with it.. Checked lots of forums and i think its about my board and rams.

    Thinking to replace my boards and rams. The question is " Which will be better on OC Gigabyte EP45-UD3R or Asus P5Q Deluxe?

    Generally I am using pc for game purpose(mmorpgs and other stuff) if i get one of these mb and clock it to 4ghz with ddr2 will it make diffrence with maximus extreme and ddr3 rams ?

    If you think problem with overclock is my rams then i can just buy 2x2gb ddr3 rams..


    I am so confused need your expert help please. Thanks

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    Welcome to PureOC!

    A couple things to comment on:

    First off, your setup is very good. When you stay you didnt' get a stable OC on it, what exactly do you mean? How high was your OC? And do you have much experience OC'ing?

    Second, you will have a very difficult time hitting 4GHz on that quad with reasonable temps. It's possible, but the voltages and heat will make it tough. That motherboard should be capable of it though, so unless you got a bad motherboard or RAM, I'm not sure why you can't OC it decently unless you didn't get your voltages right.

    Changing motherboards won't necessarily let you hit 4.0GHz. Again, it's probably not a question of the motherboard, more a question of the CPU, temperatures, and maybe your RAM, probably voltages and stability.

    Lastly, to be honest, it would probably be a waste of time and money in my opinion. After all that effort, reinstalling your OS and programs, OC'ing, tweaking, optimizing, etc, etc........you will not get a huge framerate boost in your games, particularly in MMORPG's. For a couple hundred extra MHz CPU speed, a negligible increase in framerate really isn't worth the heat, hassle, and effort. There just isn't much "return" on your investment.

    OC'ing your CPU to a reasonable and safe level will reduce any potential bottleneck (depends what resolution you're gaming at) and won't cause any futher headaches.

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    I am playing at 1920 * 1200.. I just want to OC to see 4ghz in stable conditions. I see lots of people around that go 4ghz 24/7 use with air. I am having watercooling and my oc also on water. I have a good air flux in my case. The problem is i tried every setup i mean everything and didnt get any stable oc. People going 470 fsb and i am getting unstability in 400s fsb. Could it be because of ram ?

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    Is there anyone that can oc q9550 with maximus extreme yet ? Seriously i couldnt find anyone that can achieve oc on q9550 with maximus extreme yet. :/

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    Q9550 @ 4Ghz on water will gives you at least 65c or more at load temp, it's up to you what your the top priority are, speed with high temp and the rig can un-predictable unstable or stable with low temp and the CPU life expectancy last longer.

    Try to remove two sticks or ram, you will have more chances to get your Q9550 to 4Ghz, it is very close to its limit you know. BTW, four DIMM occpuied is much harder with overclocking.

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    What are your BIOS settings?

    Can you post CPU-Z screenshots of the CPU and RAM settings?

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    And post which bios version . You may see a benefit in an earlier bios if you are looking for higher fsb.

    Edit : When you say watercooled...is your NB under water? I ask because I expect you will need fairly high NB volts running 4*1gig ram so it will be hot
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    My bios version is 1202 custom bios. Yes my NB is under water also using the fan that comes with motherboard on NB. My bios setting is all auto atm. I am so disappointed with these kingston rams. I am not looking for 4ghz guys everything is ok after 3.6ghz.
    My best memtest with rams was 8-8-8-22 1414mhz. I srsly thinking to change my ram with 2x OCZ 12800 platinum edition




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    I would guess the RAM is not the problem, Kingston is a very reliable brand. Try underclocking the RAM until you determine your maximum stable CPU overclock. If you underclock them a bit at the same voltage, you should be able to eliminate them as the cause of instability.

    Conversely, you could leave the FSB at stock and play with the dividers to see how far your RAM can go irrespective of your CPU.

    Also, like Deton said, try using only 2 RAM modules at a time until you rule the RAM out.

    I have the same CPU and a very similar mobo, the ASUS Maximus Formula. 3.4GHz seems to be my sweet spot - a balance between rock solid stability and noticibly increased performance. In fact, I would guess you could set your FSB to 400 and leave everything else in BIOS on auto. You seem to indicate this has been your approach, so pardon me if this has not worked previously.

    Edit:

    1) Can you describe your stability problems? Does the computer complete the POST routine? Are you getting BSOD in Windows? A detailed description may help us help you!

    2) Do you have any temp monitoring apps installed? You may want to look at heat issues. If something isn't seated correctly, by even a hair of an inch, it can cause temps to sky-rocket. Sky high temps are an overclockers worst enemy.

    (PS - Can you fix your pic's?)
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    One day i got stable on prime for 3 hours while my ram was on 1414 mhz and fsb like 441 and 3748 mhz after 3 hours no error on prime my screen just frozen.

    My temps were nb 46 cpu cores 52-56..
    Btw i will up my fsb to 400 mhz with full auto setting then paste here results.

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    I am using 64bit Vista Sp1
    All ram slots installed in these screens
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    15 mins Prime95 Blend 4 core test.
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    This is for 430 fsb everything on auto again including speedstep etc all enabled. CPU PLL seems in red zone with 1.8 volt this is given by motherboard dunno if it is safe to keep it on auto.
    I tried to push 440 but windows locked up on loading os part.
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    Some of you posted pictures have broken links.

    What do mean by custom bios?
    If you're using moded bios from someone else beside from Asus then you can blame on the mobo.
    Second, did you check if you ram is in Asus compatible list?
    Thirdly, check if your four sticks of memory have identical timing and voltage.

    About the CPU PLL voltage; if you leave it on Auto and when you push the mobo to much it will automatic jump to the max (over volt). Try it at 1.6v and work you way down if you can.

    Your temps are ok, so it is not heat.

    Here are two things you should look into;
    1. if your bios is not from Asus then you should consider remove it
    2. check for ram compabilitiy

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    Asus dont support my rams on their list. They are just giving support to


    Should i buy new ram ? But still they dont give any support to 2 x 2 Gb 1600 mhz & 1800 mhz rams.

    Btw i took of a stick rams. Now using as 2x1gb 7 7 7 20 @1344 mhz.. Cpu @ 3520 (420*8.5).

    Will check stability on Prime95 - Blend now for a hour and will post results.
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    Yes, see if the 2 sticks makes a difference. Your temps look good. Unfortunately it could be the RAM compatibility. It's rather uncommon, but it does happen. I am having this problem with a current set that I'm testing, it absolutely does not like my motherboard. I pop in some Kingston and no problem. So now I have to test the RAM on a completely other motherboard (talk about a pain) to make sure it gets a fair review, even though it's picky about the board. So I feel your pain........

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