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    Default Does using a SSD improve gaming performance?

    I found this post on another site and thought it to be very informative:

    at IDF Intel did a presentation called "SSD and impact on A-list games"

    kinda long but tons of cool info in it.

    for instance, they loaded a map on a HDD system, and took the character and ran from one end of the map, to the other. And timed it.
    Replay the exact same path, everything on an SSD system, the player arrives sooner. by five seconds!
    This is due to less hitching/lagging as data loads during the traverse.

    here is the thing, the whole gaming coding is built around giving the hdd a "crutch" as it cannot load shaders and textures fast enough. they have a 3rd party independent game developer for the second half of the presentation who explains this.

    So they use "filler" material in games that is basically generic fillers and textures that are preloaded into VRAM to substitute when your drive cannot provide the info fast enough.

    So when you are racing around the track on a racing game for instance, if your HDD cannot provide enough speed in retrieval, all of the tree bark on the trees on the side of the track will be just filler texture. it subs in generic stuff. You actually receive less graphic quality of your game as you play. when your character jumps off a cliff, and the rocks are shooting by, yep you guessed it, blurry low quality textures that match the color will be substituted in.

    then there is lagging and hitching as your maps and/or data loads, when the system has no choice but to wait. Very hard to measure this, as it does not effect the FPS at all. what happens is your frames are just repeats. so your still getting 60 FPS, but there will be a bunch of those 60 that are replicas, because there is no change to the rendered image, it is w a i t i n g for data to load.

    So its not 60 NEW FPS.

    So at the end of the day, the real performance hit is hidden in the numbers. Your FPS is still good, but who cares if the 60 fps in that one second, there are only 3 different frames? each repeated 20 times?

    so in order to measure they had to come up with a new method of measuring the impact. So they measured the change rate of the pixels, and when the pixels do not change from one frame to the other, that is a repeat. Or as we call it, hitching. some call it lagging.

    I can play a game on HDD and notice this, but when i play on an ssd it is smooth as glass. Noticed it for awhile, even did tests to try to quantify it myself a few years back when i first recieved the vertex (gen1). man i noticed the difference asap when playing crysis. I never did have a good enough understanding to measure it though, because as all do, i was looking at FPS.

    thankfully the good folks who build these games are wise to this stuff, and have collaborated with intel on some initiatives. If you listen to the whole presentation in the Q&A at the end the game developer who gives a speech offers to others in the crowd a new utility that they are developing that will detect an SSD. the game itself will detect!

    So then, it will treat data requests differently, and optimize for SSD. see when you run a trace of a game load, a big amount of time in the amount of time it loads the disk is actually idle. That is because the game is requesting information in a manner that suits the HDD, giving it 'rests' between random I/O requests, and asking slowly, as to keep QD low.

    IF on the other hand, you request information in a manner suited to SSDs (Ultra high QD, and all at once) think game loads of a second. This is the future of gaming, but it is indicative of the whole OS and file system (NTFS) that we use today. It is all coded for HDD, and once they switch to a filesystem, or change the behavior, the true potential of SSDs will not be utilized.

    inmy humble opinion, the important part isnt really loads, even though nice, as they are the smallest percentage of time that you spend when gaming. it is performance in game that matters, and SSDs shine in that area as well!

    god that was a rant. for those who dont want to watch the whole presentation, i have attached some screenshots.

    http://intelstudios.edgesuite.net/id...4/SSDS004.html




    This pic below shows the time difference that the player experiences when playing back a trace of the exact same game. So, record a game, then play it back on HDD, then SSD. this shows how much the time stuttering and hitching adds up. by the time you get to the last yellow line on the right, that time has added up. When it shoots out to the side from the bottom to the top, that is to be a reference of where you have reached the same physical location on the map, but the amount of time difference to get there. And the red lines are the hitching. SSD smooth as butter. So there are periods of time in the red dotted lines where the same frames are being repeated. they use pixel monitoring to see when the pixels aren't changing (repeated frames)







    source: computurd from the ssd review
    Last edited by Bill Gates; 17-11-2011 at 11:57.

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    So it's not FPS that we're looking for, it's quality FPS?

    This sounds like the little guy telling the girl, "It's not how much you have Honey, It's how you use it!".

    This really is informative though and it bolsters the post that someone put up yesterday about a little program called Steam Mover, that moves your selected game off of your Platter drive, and onto your SSD while you're playing it, and then moves it back when your done.

    Thanks for your time in this Bill, I enjoyed reading it.

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Great post, Bill. I've been thinking for a while that an SSD should be my next upgrade. This confirms it.

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    So it's not FPS that we're looking for, it's quality FPS?

    This sounds like the little guy telling the girl, "It's not how much you have Honey, It's how you use it!".

    This really is informative though and it bolsters the post that someone put up yesterday about a little program called Steam Mover, that moves your selected game off of your Platter drive, and onto your SSD while you're playing it, and then moves it back when your done.

    Thanks for your time in this Bill, I enjoyed reading it.
    glad you liked it I thought you would although i just conveyed this information it was entirely put together by computurd from the ssd review

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Ya but if your a crappy gamer like Gates, you could get to the other side of the map 10 minutes faster but get killed instantly picking his nose. in this case, the SSD was an epic waste of his money! LOL

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Ya but if your a crappy gamer like Gates, you could get to the other side of the map 10 minutes faster but get killed instantly picking his nose. in this case, the SSD was an epic waste of his money! LOL
    ha ha very funny Drdildo

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Tsk...Tsk.... Remember our sponsors use this forum. Your in trouble. Time for a time out Mr. Gates. LOL

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    i dont think we have any dildo sponsors unless you test them privately LOL

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Nice write up Bill and thank you for sharing this and the proof is definitely there.But alas the way I actually play gonna get kilt anyway but at least it may cut down on some habits while playing.
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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by rrplay View Post
    But alas the way I actually play gonna get kilt anyway
    You and me both Peter.
    I don't even try to keep up anymore.

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    You and me both Peter.
    I don't even try to keep up anymore.
    but as I recall some of us actually get a lot more play-time & value out of our games ! because it takes a lot longer to play !
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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Thanks Bill, good find!

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    thanks bill
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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Like I've been saying for some time (albeit anecdotally), the hard drive is an archaic component, a throwback to decades-old technology that hasn't really changed. The plattered HDD is the biggest bottleneck in a modern system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    Like I've been saying for some time (albeit anecdotally), the hard drive is an archaic component, a throwback to decades-old technology that hasn't really changed. The plattered HDD is the biggest bottleneck in a modern system.
    Have to agree with you there. Putting a SSD into a system speeds it up so dramatically that the first time I bought one and used it, I kicked myself in the butt for waiting so long to buy one.
    They were so expensive though, and they are only recently beginning to sell for reasonable prices.
    For those of you that still don't use one of these things, they are well worth the extra cash.

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    Default Re: Does using a SSD imporve gaming performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    Like I've been saying for some time (albeit anecdotally), the hard drive is an archaic component, a throwback to decades-old technology that hasn't really changed. The plattered HDD is the biggest bottleneck in a modern system.
    couldnt agree with you more

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