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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Hi bill,
    Sorry forgive my ignorance may i know what is 0 fill test? a SSD noob here
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    o fill test is 100% compressible data so it plays into the favor of sandforce drives because they use compression for speed. to select all 0 fill click open cdm click on file and will see test data where you can select default, all 0 fill, and all 1 fill. do not select all 1 fill

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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    This subject keeps coming up so I thought I would start a thread to address this. The following is what I personally do with all my OS installs to a new SSD.

    AMENDED 2-15-12

    IN bios set to RAID mode (basically we are now using the RAID driver instead of the AHCI driver on a single drive. The RAID driver is more robust than the AHCI driver. There is no end user difference from using the AHCI driver other than massively increased performance and a 2 second longer boot because of the RAID BIOS. TRIM still works the same, tool boxes still work the same, firmware updates still work the same, secure erasing still works the same, etc. Now your single drive can use the RAID driver and take advantage of a massive speed increase.), disable hot plugging to drive, disable all cstates, set sleep to S1, OUT of bios pre-format whole drive as a secondary drive (with Windows 7) prior to installing not with the Windows Disc but in Windows, clean install Windows (if your image has not come from another ssd that has already been installed using these exact procedures) to the pre-formatted partition just hit next when installing and no separate boot partition will be created, also and this is very important only have the SSD installed on port 0 and no other Hard Disks hooked up during installation. After Windows installation: Install latest IRST driver for Intel systems or the equivalent for AMD. Disable page file, disable system protection, set power plan to high performance, set hdd to never power off, disable indexing on the drive, check both Windows caching options, disable hibernation by opening cmd prompt and type: "powercfg -h off" press enter then exit, set to never sleep in Windows, disable disk defragmenter service, shrink partition 20% after installation and leave 20% unallocated. Windows may not allow the shrinking of the partition in some cases if that is the case use this: http://download.cnet.com/EaseUS-Part...-10863346.html then finally run WEI and reboot.

    This is what we want to accomplish:



    Besides the score look at the alignment see how it is 1024K? On the C drive? This is because we eliminated the separate boot partition and it now resides in a folder on your "C" partition.

    Look at my virtual disk manager:



    Notice how there is no separate boot partition on any drive? This is because I pre-formatted the whole drive and only had the SSD hooked up during the installation and no other hard disks. See the unallocated space on my "C" drive? While this is not a necessity it is good practice to leave some unallocated space around 20% if possible. The reason for this is the drive will maintain top performance a lot better because it has more space to do its internal maintenance. Another reason for this is the NAND will last MUCH longer. These are the reasons Enterprise SSD are over-provisioned 20% to 50% by the factory. Un-allocated space does the exact same thing for us consumers. This is why I recommend 20% over-provisioning (OP) of all SSD's. Look here: http://www.storagereview.com/intel_s...erprise_review these guys really do a good job of showing the advantages of this practice.

    As to the reason I now recommend the RAID driver over AHCI here is why:

    Performance Pro 128 with AHCI driver:



    Performance Pro 128 with RAID driver:



    HyperX 240 with AHCI driver:



    HyperX 240 with RAID driver:



    See the difference a driver makes?

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    i did not have to but i had to change the registry to do it then change in the bios then uninstall irst driver and reinstall it. i am not sure if the amd raid driver will give the kind of performance increase the intel does and also not sure the registry mod necessary for amd without re-installing windows. i think you can make sure you are on the msahci driver change the 3 value to zero then reboot into bios and switch to raid and it should not bsod. look here: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...t-reinstalling then install amd raid max or whatever its called

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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Please re-read the guide has been ammended again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    Please re-read the guide has been ammended again
    Thanks for your updates as you find more and better information for us to take advantage of. We appreciate it Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killjoyjim View Post
    Shank's BILL. will use this on my azza fushion4000 build.
    Jim, what SSD do you plan on using with the new build ?

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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Hey, Just have a quick question about re-imaging one SSD to Another.
    I have a 120GB Corsair Force 3 that I want to re-image a OCZ Agility 3. Can I just use a program say Acronis 11 and mirror the drive and then replace the Corsair drive with the OCZ. Will it affect the performance in anyway??? I don't want to have to reinstall OS for changing drives.

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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Acronis works fine for me using it like that.

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    If all the hardware is the same , yes Acronis is great for that, but if you change any hardware you need the Plus Pack for Acronis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1476 View Post
    If all the hardware is the same , yes Acronis is great for that, but if you change any hardware you need the Plus Pack for Acronis.
    He said that he was just swapping drives out, so it should work.

    Also, if you have a Seagate or a Western Digital drive in the system, you can D/L ~their~ versions of Acronis to do the Data transfer. (they work even when changing to another mainboard)
    You're not required to transfer to or from their drives,...you just have to have them present in the system for it to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1476 View Post
    If all the hardware is the same , yes Acronis is great for that, but if you change any hardware you need the Plus Pack for Acronis.
    Yea, I have the Acronis plus 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    He said that he was just swapping drives out, so it should work.

    Also, if you have a Seagate or a Western Digital drive in the system, you can D/L ~their~ versions of Acronis to do the Data transfer. (they work even when changing to another mainboard)
    You're not required to transfer to or from their drives,...you just have to have them present in the system for it to work.
    Yup.. just the drive.. - Thanks!! never used the seagate or WD programs. maybe Ill dl them and see how they are. But I will just use acronis to mirror my SSDs. I want to take the Force3 out of my LanPC and use the OCZ, This way I can use 2 of my Force3 in Raid 0 for my TH10 build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    never used the seagate or WD programs. maybe Ill dl them and see how they are.
    They are just branded versions of what you already have. They look for supported drives before they'll work. They do not analyze your hardware first.

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    your welcome I appreciate you guys too

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    Default Re: Best Practices for TOP SSD Performance

    Jon,

    Looking at the performance pro raid review (many thanks for that by the way) got me to thinking and wondering how this all works when you raid two drives?

    I ask because of the total lack of knowledge, and perhaps even understanding, that I have about the differences between the two ... do you start with 2 ssd's formatted on another machine???
    Rig2: 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @2.4), Asus z9 pe-d8 ws, 32gb ripjawsz under water, rig3 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @2.4), Supermicro 7047A-T 16GB 1600 ecc reg, on air, Rig4: 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @3.1), Supermicro x9 DAi 16GB 1600 ecc reg, on air, Rig5: 2*e5-2660 (16c/32t @2.7), Supermicro x9 DRW iF 32GB 1600 ecc reg, on air

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