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    Default 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    My 60gb vertex 3 drive seems to be running out of space dispite having a dedicated drive for my games and program files. After installing all the updates and win7 SP1 my drive has only 6gb left and i have another 100+ windows updates waiting to be patched. I'm just thinking if i will be wasting my $$$ on buying a 120gb SSD just for my OS and more head room for windows updates?

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    My 60gb vertex 3 drive seems to be running out of space dispite having a dedicated drive for my games and program files. After installing all the updates and win7 SP1 my drive has only 6gb left and i have another 100+ windows updates waiting to be patched. I'm just thinking if i will be wasting my $$$ on buying a 120gb SSD just for my OS and more head room for windows updates?
    I'd get the 120 for the OS and favorite apps.

    Then use the 60gig for favorite games and the mech drive for everything else.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Or maybe you can get another 60GB SSD just like the one you have already, and then run both of them together in a RAID configuration.
    You would have twice the room and would be happy because of the added speed boost you would see.

    Twice the space, twice as fast, for less money sounds like a plan to me.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    Or maybe you can get another 60GB SSD just like the one you have already, and then run both of them together in a RAID configuration.
    You would have twice the room and would be happy because of the added speed boost you would see.

    Twice the space, twice as fast, for less money sounds like a plan to me.
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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    Or maybe you can get another 60GB SSD just like the one you have already, and then run both of them together in a RAID configuration.
    You would have twice the room and would be happy because of the added speed boost you would see.

    Twice the space, twice as fast, for less money sounds like a plan to me.
    thanks neil, i did think of this but i have never setup RAID before and just have the impression that its pretty complicated? especially when i reformat and reinstall my OS drive?

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    2 x 60G in raid0= 60G. You do not get 120G.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Did someone say RAID-0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    thanks neil, i did think of this but i have never setup RAID before and just have the impression that its pretty complicated? especially when i reformat and reinstall my OS drive?
    Talk to Bill Gates, he's probably done it several times. He's very knowledgeable about what you can and can't do with SSD's.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    @Dr Jr., Raid0 does see the drives in double as a single drive.

    @Bully, Raid setup is pretty easy than you think. You don't have to reformat the current SSD and re-install the OS. If you have an old HDD laying around, then use hard drive clone software to clone the OS SSD to it then install the new SSDs and clone it back to the new SSDs.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    I agree here that wetting up RAID is easy, I had my old Kingston 40GB drives in RAID0, and there was a bit of a speed increase. However, this comes with a drawback as well, no TRIM command. For me the speed increase only lasted for a few months, and then were running at about the same speeds as running off of a mechanical drive. The way I see it is a single large SSD is better for your OS, as I now refuse to be without the TRIM command now that I have seen the difference. Although, I've heard that Intel is getting closer to fixing this issue, and manybe in another year or two, there will SSD's on the market that will support the TRIM command.
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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Quote Originally Posted by shattered.likeness View Post
    I agree here that wetting up RAID is easy, I had my old Kingston 40GB drives in RAID0, and there was a bit of a speed increase. However, this comes with a drawback as well, no TRIM command. For me the speed increase only lasted for a few months, and then were running at about the same speeds as running off of a mechanical drive. The way I see it is a single large SSD is better for your OS, as I now refuse to be without the TRIM command now that I have seen the difference. Although, I've heard that Intel is getting closer to fixing this issue, and manybe in another year or two, there will SSD's on the market that will support the TRIM command.
    Agree,

    Plus running Raid 0 you have to always plan for backup as when one goes down it takes the whole Enchilda with it.
    Your splitting the data between the two drives.
    Reason for speed.

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    120-OS and favorite apps.
    60- favorite games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    @Dr Jr., Raid0 does see the drives in double as a single drive.

    @Bully, Raid setup is pretty easy than you think. You don't have to reformat the current SSD and re-install the OS. If you have an old HDD laying around, then use hard drive clone software to clone the OS SSD to it then install the new SSDs and clone it back to the new SSDs.
    Deton thats what I said

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Deton thats what I said
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    2 x 60G in raid0= 60G. You do not get 120G.
    ^ that's incorrect....I have two HDDs of 250Gb in RAID 0 and Windows shows 500Gb drive. Technically, you do get double capacity when you do RAID 0 because the data scattering over both drives. Simple explanation; if you have 1mb data then RAID 0 (stripes) splits data evenly across the drives without parity information for redundancy.

    You can RAID 0 with different capacity drives together but the storage space added the array by each drive is limited the size of the smallest disk.

    IMO, SSDs in RAID are not worth it when TRIM is not supported. However, the upcoming Intel RST 11.5, SSD RAID 0 will be supported.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    Put simply if you try to Raid 0 a 120 and a 60 gig drive, You don't have a 180gig drive.
    You have a 120 gig drive as to storage.

    And possible compatibility issues and especially with different brands and firmware.

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    When I ran my 320G Raptors in Raid0 it gave me 320G.

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    Default Re: 60gb as a boot drive is too small

    For now, if you haven't done it yet, turn off system restore and delete all current restore points. Then move your library files, My Docs, Music, pictures, videos to the spinning drive. Really simple to do. These two actions should free up a considerble amount of space for you.

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