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    First item of business, I hope everyone had a great Christmas and will have a even better New Year! Next, "Santa" gave me a Samsung 840 EVO for Christmas, 120g, so, I want to be sure to set this up properly. For now, just the OS and whatever would be considered essential, maybe AV and Office suite, (no game stuff for now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    First item of business, I hope everyone had a great Christmas and will have a even better New Year! Next, "Santa" gave me a Samsung 840 EVO for Christmas, 120g, so, I want to be sure to set this up properly. For now, just the OS and whatever would be considered essential, maybe AV and Office suite, (no game stuff for now).
    Nice get for Xmas. It is pretty easy to setup. Install like any other drive. Most time Ahci needs to be disabled until after all of your drivers are installed unless you front load the drivers during setup. Just turn the sata port to IDE/Compatibilty mode, Install windows on the driver, load all of the board, ahci drivers, gpu anything else drivers. Reboot into bios, turn port back to AHCI and boot into windows. Ready to go.
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    Santa bought me a pair of 120Gigs for me to RAID 0 as a Boot /System partition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hearsepilot View Post
    Santa bought me a pair of 120Gigs for me to RAID 0 as a Boot /System partition
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    Default Re: Samsung 840 EVO

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Nice get for Xmas. It is pretty easy to setup. Install like any other drive. Most time Ahci needs to be disabled until after all of your drivers are installed unless you front load the drivers during setup. Just turn the sata port to IDE/Compatibilty mode, Install windows on the driver, load all of the board, ahci drivers, gpu anything else drivers. Reboot into bios, turn port back to AHCI and boot into windows. Ready to go.
    I didn't do ANY of that for my 850.

    What have I done?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by say what View Post
    I didn't do ANY of that for my 850.

    What have I done?!
    Nothing. If it works then don't worry about it. I made the assumption that he was using a board that supports ahci, that it was turned on, Windows 7 before so and didn't know or have the driver to front load during install. A lot of assumptions but they are fairly common issues when setting up any newer drive, ssd or hdd.

    If you didn't need to do any of that stuff than your fine but if your board supports ahci and did not set it up and install the driving your missing out on a little more performance. Just look in device manager and see if it mentions ahci. If so your set and the drivers were installed when you installed the board drivers. Some offer it separately. Normally problems with ahci happens when the board is set to ahci but the driver isn't installed. Can cause bsod on boot. That is why I said disable it first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Nice get for Xmas. It is pretty easy to setup. Install like any other drive. Most time Ahci needs to be disabled until after all of your drivers are installed unless you front load the drivers during setup. Just turn the sata port to IDE/Compatibilty mode, Install windows on the driver, load all of the board, ahci drivers, gpu anything else drivers. Reboot into bios, turn port back to AHCI and boot into windows. Ready to go.
    Sorry about the delay in response here, so, sounds simple enough, however, I would like to use this time to finish something that was supposed to be done a while ago. I started a thread a while back,New Parts, New Needs...

    and after trying both the AMD solution and going through disk management, without success, I decided I would build a second system later on, but, "Murphy's Law" kicked in and here I am. So now, the question is, how do I put it all together? Would a re-install of the os make things any easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Nice get for Xmas. It is pretty easy to setup. Install like any other drive. Most time Ahci needs to be disabled until after all of your drivers are installed unless you front load the drivers during setup. Just turn the sata port to IDE/Compatibilty mode, Install windows on the driver, load all of the board, ahci drivers, gpu anything else drivers. Reboot into bios, turn port back to AHCI and boot into windows. Ready to go.
    I realize this is becoming annoying but I have to ask. I followed your instructions above and it went blue screen straight away. Tried Samsung's data migration tool, "can't find a disk with windows installed", then closes. Device manager shows the ssd there, as does ASUS bios. I was going to use my windows disk, but I got as far as the "upgrade or regular install" screen and it never asked where to install to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    I realize this is becoming annoying but I have to ask. I followed your instructions above and it went blue screen straight away. Tried Samsung's data migration tool, "can't find a disk with windows installed", then closes. Device manager shows the ssd there, as does ASUS bios. I was going to use my windows disk, but I got as far as the "upgrade or regular install" screen and it never asked where to install to.
    Did you go into Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management and check to make sure the SSD is partitioned as a primary partition and formatted with NTFS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    Did you go into Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management and check to make sure the SSD is partitioned as a primary partition and formatted with NTFS?

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    Wasn't before, is now. I'm guessing Win disk now, but, I'd rather see it in writing first. In the past I've screwed up a few times by getting ahead of myself in area's of importance.

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    OK, there are a couple of things you can do at this point.

    As I think you are suggesting, you can go with the Windows Installation media, and try an installation again. I wouldn't do upgrade, I'd do a regular install, at which point it _should_ give you a list of drives and partitions you can install on. Select the SSD and go from there.

    As an alternate solution. You _could_ unplug your other drives (SATA or Power cables) leaving only your install media (DVD) and your SSD connected. Then run through the installation routine, and Windows should install an MBR on the SSD. Then you should be able to re-connect your other drives and see all of them. This could be a little tricky, as I don't exactly recall what Windows does if it sees multiple valid MBR's.

    Any Windows Guru's hanging about????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    OK, there are a couple of things you can do at this point.

    As I think you are suggesting, you can go with the Windows Installation media, and try an installation again. I wouldn't do upgrade, I'd do a regular install, at which point it _should_ give you a list of drives and partitions you can install on. Select the SSD and go from there.

    As an alternate solution. You _could_ unplug your other drives (SATA or Power cables) leaving only your install media (DVD) and your SSD connected. Then run through the installation routine, and Windows should install an MBR on the SSD. Then you should be able to re-connect your other drives and see all of them. This could be a little tricky, as I don't exactly recall what Windows does if it sees multiple valid MBR's.

    Any Windows Guru's hanging about????

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    Thanks! That's what I needed, so, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    OK, there are a couple of things you can do at this point.

    As I think you are suggesting, you can go with the Windows Installation media, and try an installation again. I wouldn't do upgrade, I'd do a regular install, at which point it _should_ give you a list of drives and partitions you can install on. Select the SSD and go from there.

    As an alternate solution. You _could_ unplug your other drives (SATA or Power cables) leaving only your install media (DVD) and your SSD connected. Then run through the installation routine, and Windows should install an MBR on the SSD. Then you should be able to re-connect your other drives and see all of them. This could be a little tricky, as I don't exactly recall what Windows does if it sees multiple valid MBR's.

    Any Windows Guru's hanging about????

    Scott
    OK, it's running now. Boot order in UEFI is ssd, hdd, optical. All essential drivers have been installed. Now, I know this should be obvious, but I have to ask, because all my other stuff is on the hdd - how do I use the hdd and get the performance increase from the ssd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    OK, it's running now. Boot order in UEFI is ssd, hdd, optical. All essential drivers have been installed. Now, I know this should be obvious, but I have to ask, because all my other stuff is on the hdd - how do I use the hdd and get the performance increase from the ssd?
    To get the best performance of an SSD, you need to install the OS and all important and "heavy" programs on it, for all other stuff (installing Games, storing your files, installing less demanding programs...), you can use your HDD. As you have relatively "small" space SSD I suggest you to deactivate windows hibernation mode, and set Recycle Bin to fixed amount of space (Eg 500 MB ), also set System Restore to fixed percentage (between 2-5% tops). If you leave all those things at Windows Default settings these will eat your SSD space unnecessarily.
    Ah one more thing: never use any defragmentation tools on your SSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    To get the best performance of an SSD, you need to install the OS and all important and "heavy" programs on it, for all other stuff (installing Games, storing your files, installing less demanding programs...), you can use your HDD. As you have relatively "small" space SSD I suggest you to deactivate windows hibernation mode, and set Recycle Bin to fixed amount of space (Eg 500 MB ), also set System Restore to fixed percentage (between 2-5% tops). If you leave all those things at Windows Default settings these will eat your SSD space unnecessarily.
    Ah one more thing: never use any defragmentation tools on your SSD.
    OK, the defrag I read about in one of the other threads here, I'll take care of the system restore and the bin when I'm done here. So, if I understand this right, the ssd is now my primary drive? Also, so far when I boot with the ssd or hdd, no "boom". Boot speed isn't much different between the ssd and the hdd, so I installed Samsung's OS optimizer, Magician. If there's a performance increase, It's not noticeable.

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    Default Re: Samsung 840 EVO

    Frankly, I'm utterly amazed that you aren't seeing a boot speed improvement. That really leaves me scratching my head.

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