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    Question Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse

    Ok before when booting up the computer I am using to install Windows 7 64 bit to a certain hard drive well it showed all 3 drives but now it is only showing 2. I have a 3 TB hard drive that I know is in working order and I am just wanting to install Windows 7 64 bit to it and then place it in another pc. I do not care if I don't get the whole 3 TB as I can't as neither the computer I am using to format this drive nor the computer it is going into has a UEFI BIOS. So right now this 3 TB hard drive that used to show up suddenly doesn't after I removed the way it was formatted. It was not going to take Windows 7 64 bit onto it in the way it was formatted. Anyway I am beyond frustrated. I am ticked right off. Please help. I just want to get this into a 2.2 TB or whatever format and install Windows 7 64 bit to it. :S


    Update: Solved the issue of getting the drive clean and installed the OS by the help I got here ..

    Computer can't find 3tb hard-drive, so can't format drive - Hard Drives - Storage

    Update 2: However when I swapped the drive over to the other pc with the OS installed I got an MBR error.

    HELP!
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Tell us a bit more about the hardware of the receiving computer.... MB, CPU, Ram??

    Also, have you checked the bios setting to ensure AHCI is selected?
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Tell us a bit more about the hardware of the receiving computer.... MB, CPU, Ram??
    This is just so frustrating. I found out btw supposedly the pc receiving the hard drive has Dual UEFI BIOS.

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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    master boot record error?

    have you tryed to use the MS OS cd to "repair" the windows start up?
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    master boot record error?

    have you tryed to use the MS OS cd to "repair" the windows start up?
    I did not try that but don't you end up need a floppy disk or USB memory stick to do that? I don't have either available to me at this moment.
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Update: After much misery and grief I decided to pull an old 160 or 120 GB Western Digital hard drive from the old dual core rig I have. With a dual core and a 9800 GT it wasn't being used for anything anyway and so pulling the hard drive is no big deal. I will just pair it with the 3 TB and call it a day. I am thankful I finally remember I had a sata hard drive in that old rig.
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    When you do a windows install on one PC, that install generates a Hash number that takes your hardware into consideration. This is stored somewhere on your system's HDD or SSD.
    The system (it's parts) has several unique identifiers in it that make it different from all other PCs. (combination of parts, even the clock generator on the motherboard) All of this info goes into this Hash number generation.

    Part of what happens on boot is a partial verification of some (or all) of that hash number's properties. If the drive is installed into a new system, it will fail to boot every time (hash doesn't match) unless you have an Enterprise version of Windows installed.
    It prevents your copy of windows from being shared.

    This (parts Cop) hash number will set off an alarm if you upgrade your system too much.
    Usually upgrading one or maybe two items is OK, but upgrade the MoBo, RAM, and CPU and Windows suddenly wants you to reactivate the OS. This is due to a Hash number verification fail.
    You call MS and they (if they decide that you deserve it) give you a number to type in, and the system fixes itself. (new hash number)
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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    When you do a windows install on one PC, that install generates a Hash number that takes your hardware into consideration. This is stored somewhere on your system's HDD or SSD.
    The system (it's parts) has several unique identifiers in it that make it different from all other PCs. (combination of parts, even the clock generator on the motherboard) All of this info goes into this Hash number generation.

    Part of what happens on boot is a partial verification of some (or all) of that hash number's properties. If the drive is installed into a new system, it will fail to boot every time (hash doesn't match) unless you have an Enterprise version of Windows installed.
    It prevents your copy of windows from being shared.

    This (parts Cop) hash number will set off an alarm if you upgrade your system too much.
    Usually upgrading one or maybe two items is OK, but upgrade the MoBo, RAM, and CPU and Windows suddenly wants you to reactivate the OS. This is due to a Hash number verification fail.
    You call MS and they (if they decide that you deserve it) give you a number to type in, and the system fixes itself. (new hash number)
    Thanks for this information. However for various reasons it would not have helped me in my situation. Anyway I am just glad I got the problem resolved and really from now on I am going to just make sure I have a smaller drive around to install Windows to so that I don't lose 1 TB on a 3 TB drive. I am glad I was able to avoid that here by finding an old sata hard drive 2 TB or smaller laying around that I didn't think I had.
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    A lot of MoBo makers have a tool that you get from their download page that helps your board to recognize large drives. (greater than 2TB in size)
    Have you tried that?

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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    A lot of MoBo makers have a tool that you get from their download page that helps you to recognise large drives. (greater than 2T
    Have you tried that?
    Eh maybe in the future I will try once again to install an OS to a 3 TB drive and btw with all the problems I was having last night I found out that one factor that made things even more complicated was the CD/DVD RW drive I was using was not reading anything. After dealing with that and other things that were not working I just borrowed the media drive from my own pc and put it in my son's computer and decided I had wasted enough time on this all and went with a small drive for the OS which I knew would work and then used the 3 TB for just storage. I had enough of trying to learn to do something. I spent way too many hours on it which included me staying up into the early morning of Saturday and it ate into my time I was spending with my son this weekend because on Saturday morning and even afternoon I was too tired to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeViLzzz View Post
    Eh maybe in the future I will try once again to install an OS to a 3 TB drive and btw with all the problems I was having last night I found out that one factor that made things even more complicated was the CD/DVD RW drive I was using was not reading anything. After dealing with that and other things that were not working I just borrowed the media drive from my own pc and put it in my son's computer and decided I had wasted enough time on this all and went with a small drive for the OS which I knew would work and then used the 3 TB for just storage. I had enough of trying to learn to do something. I spent way too many hours on it which included me staying up into the early morning of Saturday and it ate into my time I was spending with my son this weekend because on Saturday morning and even afternoon I was too tired to do anything.


    Sometimes, PCs can be a PITA.

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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    Jumping in late as usual, I suspect that rather than the hash "parts cop" (I like that). It is probably a GPT vs MBR partitioning/formatting problem. As I recall, even though Windows7 is supposed to understand GPT it _doesn't_ really, and the installer often has a hard time installing to modern drives that have been hooked to a UEFI based motherboard.

    I have had endless problems installing Windows 7 on UEFI computers because of this issue. Sadly, I can't tell you any easy way around it, other than to install Windows 8/8/1/10 which do properly understand GPT, or screw around with it endlessly until you figure out the magic combination to get it to work. My MSI MB _Never_ worked with Windows7 after I moved to GPT (because I was using Linux), as Win 7 categorically refused to install to ANY drive other than the Primary Partition of the Primary Disk, NO MATTER WHAT, and it desperately wanted an MBR (instead of whatever GPT uses) and I categorically refused to let it screw with my perfectly good linux configuration. Had I disconnected all my other drives, and installed to a blank drive on the primary controller, and let Windows 7 be my boot manager, I could have gotten it to work. But in any other combination, it flat out refused. In fact after awhile, I realized that Microsoft was punishing me for using Linux. Basically sticking a big ol middle finger in my direction and laughing.

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    Default Re: Windows 7 64 bit install hard drive gone from bad to worse.

    I don't use Linux and windows on the same box either. But it's because I don't like dual boot PCs.

    So I have my three Gaming PCs on Win-7 and a Dell Core2 Duo with Linux on it.
    The Linux OS is on a 240GB SSD, and there is a 1TB Seagate SATA drive in there as well. With 8GB of RAM, it's snappy.

    I put about six thousand songs on it and connected two JBL 2.1 sound systems to it. I have it playing all day in the background and sometimes I use it to peace-off the neighbors.

    Yeah, I'm happy to keep them apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I don't use Linux and windows on the same box either. But it's because I don't like dual boot PCs.

    So I have my three Gaming PCs on Win-7 and a Dell Core2 Duo with Linux on it.
    The Linux OS is on a 240GB SSD, and there is a 1TB Seagate SATA drive in there as well. With 8GB of RAM, it's snappy.

    I put about six thousand songs on it and connected two JBL 2.1 sound systems to it. I have it playing all day in the background and sometimes I use it to peace-off the neighbors.

    Yeah, I'm happy to keep them apart.
    Historically, I've found that dual booting is a disaster waiting to happen...but sometimes I've needed Windows (or Linux) badly enough that I've done it. At the end of the day though, every single time it's ended badly. This last time, I simply didn't want to spend the money to build a second system just so I could run Windows....so, I tried it again. After a couple weeks, I gave up, bought hardware and vowed (again) to never dual boot again! LOL

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    I did a dual boot system years ago and blew up my Windows install after a few months. I lost some DATA that meant something to me. Once bitten, twice shy.

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