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    Default M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Could someone please give me a bit of advice on which M.2 (NGFF) Type 2260 SSD card to buy for my ROG mPCIe Combo III add on which came with my Maximus VII Formula M/B. There doesn't seem to be many 2260 cards and I have no idea which make to go for. Any help would be most helpful. Thanks.....Ron.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Hi Ron, if you looking for M.2 SSD (2260 form), I think this guide could help you decide:
    2016 Guide: The Best M.2 Solid-State Drives, Tested - ComputerShopper.com

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Thanks for your help, a very interesting read. I did ask for some advice from the ROG forum and got no response at all. Once again this site has come back with quick response and help, thanks again.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    You're very welcome. I'm glad we could help you.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    You're very welcome. I'm glad we could help you.
    I have a pair of those Crucial M.2 drives. (500G
    I haven't booted them up yet, but I think that they're gonna be pretty awesome.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    My problem seems to be finding a PcIe SSD type 2260, which I'm assuming is faster than the SATA SSD. Plenty of type 2280 and plenty of SATA SSD type 2260 but not the one I'm looking for. I'll try getting in touch with some of the manufactures and see what they have to offer.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    My problem seems to be finding a PcIe SSD type 2260, which I'm assuming is faster than the SATA SSD. Plenty of type 2280 and plenty of SATA SSD type 2260 but not the one I'm looking for. I'll try getting in touch with some of the manufactures and see what they have to offer.
    In that case (PCIE), you actually don't need exactly 2260 SSD, you need an NVMe M.2 PCIE SSD and M.2 to PCIE x4 adapter, the best NVME SSD for now is Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD + M.2 to PCIE x4 NVME/AHCI adapter:
    http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-PR...words=nvme+ssd
    Amazon.com: Angelbird PX1 PCIe x4 adapter for PCIe M.2 SSDs: Computers & Accessories
    connect your SSD to PCIE card plug it in any free PCIE 2.0 / 3.0 x4, x8, x16 slot and that's it. Using the PCIE adapter card you have no limitation with the length of the SSD (2230, 2260, 2280, 22110)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    In that case (PCIE), you actually don't need exactly 2260 SSD, you need an NVMe M.2 PCIE SSD and M.2 to PCIE x4 adapter, the best NVME SSD for now is Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD + M.2 to PCIE x4 NVME/AHCI adapter:
    Amazon.com: Samsung 950 PRO Series - 256GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V5P256BW): Computers & Accessories
    Amazon.com: Angelbird PX1 PCIe x4 adapter for PCIe M.2 SSDs: Computers & Accessories
    connect your SSD to PCIE card plug it in any free PCIE 2.0 / 3.0 x4, x8, x16 slot and that's it. Using the PCIE adapter card you have no limitation with the length of the SSD (2230, 2260, 2280, 22110)
    The important info is stated in the motherboard specs as follows:

    2260 - Width 22mm, Length 60mm

    2280 - Width 22mm, Length 80mm


    These refer to size. The newest M.2 slots use PCI-E lanes that are usually reserved for Video/GPU throughput. Your board uses a regular M.2 SSD installed onto an adaptor card that comes with your motherboard. Here is a video describing the proper way to set it up. You must have the size "2260" M.2 for use on the adaptor.

    Here is an example of what you need to get.

    If you don't want to be limited by the smaller size drives,
    (60mm long) you can opt for an adapter card that plugs into a PCI-E slot and buy an 80mm length M.2 SSD instead. It will use the same amount of PCI-E lanes, except the interface is not the same.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    Thanks to both of you for the quick response. From what I've read cards with a single slot are PcIe, yet the Transcend is Sata. My Rog adapter comes with a single slot so I assumed it would only take a PcIe card. I know it can only handle a 2260. If I get a Sata will it be any faster than my normal Sata III 6Gbps SSD I already have installed.

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    In one word NO, the Sata SSD is Sata SSD no mater is it M.2 or Sata connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    In a one word NO, the Sata SSD is Sata SSD no mater is it M.2 or Sata connected.
    The two ssd's I have are Sata connected which made me think the Rog adapter would be faster.

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    Default Re: M.2 (NGFF) SSD Advice

    There _might_ be some performance differences between an SATA SSD attached to a PCI-E adapter and a SATA SSD attached to the SATA bus. The one on the PCI-E adapter is likely using a one or two channel SATA bus, connected directly to the PCI-E bus through the adapter. A SATA chip on the motherboard on the other hand likely has 4 or 6 SATA channels, and may connect to the PCI-E in a slightly more circuitous manner, and may even share PCI-E lanes with other on-board peripherals. So...in certain cases, it seems like the Adapter attached device _could_ be a bit faster. However, in the grand scheme of things, I expect Smiki is exactly correct.

    So, Ron, if you really want to throw an M.2 SSD in that machine, (and you aren't running SLI), I'd recommend something like this for 10 Quid. Then pick up any M Keyed M.2 2280 NVME SSD that you fancy. Easier than using that ASUS combo thing.... In fact 10 UKP + the cost of this seems like a good deal to me, and much easier than trying to find a 2260 NVME drive.

    Just my .02 though.

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    Thanks for the advice, I had thought of going that way, but I'm running CrossFire a sound card and a USB 3.0 card which doesn't leave a lot of space. After doing some checking there are only a couple of M.2 PcIe cards that will fit the Rog Combo III and they are only for OEM. As I won't see much difference in speed with a M.2 Sata, I think I'll give it a miss. How clever of Asus to give you a free adapter and no way of getting a card to fit.
    Thanks again to all of you, back to the drawing board.

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    Wise decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Thanks for the advice, I had thought of going that way, but I'm running CrossFire a sound card and a USB 3.0 card which doesn't leave a lot of space. After doing some checking there are only a couple of M.2 PcIe cards that will fit the Rog Combo III and they are only for OEM. As I won't see much difference in speed with a M.2 Sata, I think I'll give it a miss. How clever of Asus to give you a free adapter and no way of getting a card to fit.
    Thanks again to all of you, back to the drawing board.
    As nice as it was of them to opt for SATA Express rather than M.2 on Z97 boards......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    As nice as it was of them to opt for SATA Express rather than M.2 on Z97 boards......
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