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    well i got this POS ide hard drive sitting in my rig and it's almost dead, i want to remove the mp3 off of it. before i throw it in the lake, any ideas which is the best way to recover data from it.It's clicking and making noises, and i can't even burn data from it now. skyguy said maybe i should try spinrite and some other programs, anyone have anymore ideas?

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    try getting an external enclosure and when your ready to transfer, hope the usb rate is fast enough to get your stuff off
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    Roxio (full version) let you do backup to DVDs or other sources or you can use Windows backup utility for this as well.

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    External transfer is best way to go if its still readable. Not sure which is fastest SATA or USB 2.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    External transfer is best way to go if its still readable. Not sure which is fastest SATA or USB 2.0.
    well since their MP3's it shouldn't take long with USB and you can hot swap USB so you can give the drive a break if it starts to malfunction
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    well it's already malfunctioning i couldn't back it up with the xp based back up tool and i couldn't burn it on dvd because it keeps spitting out bad dvd's

    i am going to try norton ghost and some other stuff this afternoon?

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    There are two problems with reallocated sectors. First, each harddisk comes with a limited "pool" of empty sectors that can be used as reallocated sectors. When you run out of those, then the automatic protection goes away, so you will start seeing more and more bad sectors at the OS level.
    Second (and most importantly) there is a performance problem with reallocated sectors. Due to the fact that some sectors are remapped to another area on the disk, sequential I/O on those sectors is getting randomized (becomes random I/O) with very different performance characteristics. How big is the performance impact? Pretty big. Let's say that you have a no reallocated sectors in a 40 MB interval. If you want to read 1 MB in this interval, you will read it at a standard sequential I/O rate, say about 50 MB/s on a regular SATA disk. So reading will take 1/50 = 20 ms.
    Now, let's pretend we have a reallocated sector in the middle of the 1 MB that we want to read. The reading time will include those 20 ms above plus the two additional seeks. Since a seek is usually around 8-9 ms (or even more) for a standard SATA harddisk, you get around 40 ms for reading the 1 MB which is twice as long. So, from a bandwidth perspective, you are reading that 1 MB at 25 MB per second, which half of the actual speed. So what might see is a sudden decrease in sequential I/O bandwidth whenever there is a reallocated sector around.
    The interesting thing is that you can "spot" the approximate location of reallocated sectors by doing a sequence of sequential reads over the entire harddisk (from the beggining to end) and see where you have sudden drops in I/O performance. Fortunately, the same tool mentioned above - HD Tune - has a benchmark mode which allows precisely this.

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    I'd say go external too.and just before you throw it i the lake put it in the freezer for 24hrs and try again for the stuff you lost...if it is a mechanical allignment problem then this will help
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    Is the IDE drive a Slave drive for data only or is it your primary with the operating system on it? You could also call a couple data recovery companies in your area and get estimates for their services.

    Good luck!

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    Moose, if you do not mind paying for shipping, I'll send you one of the Eagle Tech enclosures we reviewed a while back, it's up to you., PM me if your interested.

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    Try putting it in the freezer for a little bit and try again. An IT friend of mine told me to do this when my drive started clicking. It won't save the drive, but sometimes helps to prolong its life enough to get info off of it. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman View Post
    well it's already malfunctioning i couldn't back it up with the xp based back up tool and i couldn't burn it on dvd because it keeps spitting out bad dvd's

    i am going to try norton ghost and some other stuff this afternoon?
    Have you had any luck yet? And if so what did you finally do?

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