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    Default Is the new SATA 6Gb/s just a marketing ploy?

    This is what has been running through head for the past couple of days while I've been looking to put two 40GB Intel-based SSD's into a RAID 0 configuration.

    I was over at newegg today seeing if there were any new SATA 6Gb/s RAID cards that were within my price range. Knowing that 3Ware has been long reputed to make the best RAID cards on the market, I went looking through what they have to offer. After looking at one of their cards, I clicked on the link for the "Product Page" at the manufacturer's website, only to then find out that 3Ware is now owned by LSI. Looking around their site, I see that they are linking to a review that Tom's did on Breaking the HDD speed limit reached by on the now famous Youtube video of 24 Samsung SSD's in RAID. Tom's Article

    Ok, so the review might be a little dated (8/26/2009) but I saw some interesting figures show up.

    The fastest speeds that they were able to achieve with 16 Intel SSD's was 3.5 Gb/s in RAID 6, and 3.4 Gb/s in RAID 0.

    If they were just barely able to break the 3Gb/s speeds by using enough Intel SSD's to make even the most die-hard enthusiast to say "that's too much", what's the point in even bringing out the faster interface? Are we really going to be able to see that much of a difference in the drives we already have, or is this just a marketing ploy to get us to spend more money?

    What does everyone else think about this?
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    Since I am doing a new build I did go ahead & get a board that supports USB 3 & SATA 6 gb. It really wasn't that much more for the board & I figured with as fast as they improve things it won't be long there will be drives reaching those speeds. I think i got mine more for the USB 3.0, because those are shown to be almost twice as fast as 2.0 & there is already hardware that can use it.

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    Nah dont think SATA 6gb is a marketing ploy.
    Its just too early in the hardware lifecycle that its performance has not been fully taken
    advantage yet. Much like SATA II from SATA I the performance increment were so minimal until a couple of years into its maturity that speeds began to mature.

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    But if it is taking 16 Intel SSD's in RAID to even saturate the bandwidth of a SATA 3Gb/s, there's no use in even releasing it until they are going to be able to release drives that can at utilize the bandwidth we have now. Seagate has already taken advantage of this by releasing a SATA 6Gb/s mechanical HDD, I don't even think a VelociRaptor can even touch 1.5Gb/s transfer speeds, and the original video of 24 Samsung SSD's was only able to just barely break 2.0Gb/s. I just don't think that the technology has reached a point where anyone but those universities and laboratories that can actually afford and utilize the new SATA standard.

    Unless the new sandforce controllers are going to be so fast that they make current SSD's look like they are running at 5400 rpm IDE drive speeds, SATA III is still too far ahead of its time.
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    It's quite simple really. SATA II 3Gb/s ports can be pretty much saturated by a single SSD. Put them in RAID and it's another story because the SATA II ports can handle very high speeds when drives are RAIDed.

    However, the SATA III 6Gb/s ports cannot handle RAID, and with the new SSDs coming, they will push these new SATA III ports, and definitely easily surpass SATA II ports singular/non-RAID capabilities.

    So the need for SATA III is essentially to cover very fast single SSDs and SATA II can handle RAID setups. Piece of cake.

    Got an SSD RAID 0 review coming soon, you'll see the results

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    Certain manufacturers are indeed starting to use it as a marketing ploy. For example, a hard disk drive manufacturer selling platter-based drives with a SATA 6Gb/s interface. No improvement over that same disk drive with a SATA 3Gb/s interface (platter tech isn't fast enough to saturate 3 Gb/s much less make effective use of 6 Gb/s) ... but they *will* sell better to people who are not especially tech-savy - mostly because of the ubiquitous "bigger numbers are better" mentality.

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